[HN Gopher] Google's "Director of Engineering" Hiring Test
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       Google's "Director of Engineering" Hiring Test
        
       Author : iamthemalto
       Score  : 71 points
       Date   : 2022-01-01 16:54 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.gwan.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.gwan.com)
        
       | rurban wrote:
       | This exchange happened around 2016 or so, if I remember
       | correctly. Already posted here a couple of times.
       | 
       | And it happened to me also. Those recruiters were hilarious, you
       | cannot make that up. I got 8 of 10 by luck, but refused a 2nd
       | exchange with those bots.
        
         | sebastien_b wrote:
         | Thanks for this - now I know what link to reply with for
         | recruiters that keep spamming me as if I'd be interested in
         | working at whatever company they're spamming me for.
        
       | mmacvicarprett wrote:
       | Not surprising, the candidate did fail at acknowledge who the
       | interviewer was to adapt their answers. It was a recruiter
       | reading answers from a sheet, the simpler you keep it the highest
       | the chance of passing the stupid test.
        
         | BoorishBears wrote:
         | Not everyone wants to work at a place that needs you to dumb
         | things down just to get your foot in the door as a _Director of
         | Engineering_
        
       | lucasyvas wrote:
       | Send them an invoice for your wasted time.
        
       | lokar wrote:
       | The reason for this is that resume review is really ineffective
       | as a screen. You end up having engineers wasting time on
       | technical interviews that are clearly a pass in the first 10m
       | (but you keep going for 45 to stay professional)
       | 
       | IMO, a better approach now are basic on line code screens
       | designed to take 15m for a qualified candidate. The goal of which
       | is to show you are serious about the tech stuff and give people a
       | way to bow out gracefully.
        
         | faangiq wrote:
         | Resume screening is very effective when done by someone who is
         | intelligent. The tech industry refuses to take hiring seriously
         | and apply such people to the problem.
        
           | lokar wrote:
           | I've read many resumes that seem solid. Then the candidate
           | knows almost nothing. They just lie on the resumes.
           | 
           | I've also talked to people with terrible resumes who turn out
           | to be great. They are just bad at resumes.
        
       | dekhn wrote:
       | These are the prescreen questions that were used for senior SRE.
       | It's not a hiring test- this person didn't even get to the actual
       | hiring interviews (which would have asked you, for example, to
       | implement quicksort in code on a whiteboard).
       | 
       | The recruiter-screeners in this case don't know anything, they're
       | just looking for you to answer some questions against a table of
       | "right answers", and they wouldn't know it if you answered in a
       | way that was technically correct, but not in the answer key.
       | 
       | The reasoning behind this, sadly, is that Google thinks it tuned
       | its hiring questions to reduce the rate of false positives-
       | hiring an unqualified person into a role- at the expense of false
       | negatives (not hiring a qualified person). Eventually, I stopped
       | referring people to Google as the process was quite capricious. I
       | told anybody who wanted to apply to read everything online about
       | the process, memorize CLR and leetcode, and then tell the
       | interviewers what they wanted to hear.
        
         | fragmede wrote:
         | What is CLR in this context? Common Language Runtime
         | (Microsoft's .NET VM) doesn't seem applicable.
        
           | sushid wrote:
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_Algorithms
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | mbroncano wrote:
       | I had a similar experience a few years ago. Although I soon
       | realized what the deal was, and what the expectations of the
       | screener were (so I could adjust and 'pass'), it discouraged me
       | from moving forward.
       | 
       | It seems nowadays the process is much more reasonable, but Google
       | is still far behind other FAANG companies in regard to their
       | interviewing process, in my opinion.
        
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