[HN Gopher] United States IPv6 adoption over 50%
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       United States IPv6 adoption over 50%
        
       Author : Sami_Lehtinen
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2021-12-31 20:16 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | wnevets wrote:
       | I wonder what percentage of that is mobile traffic .
        
       | vidanay wrote:
       | About 5 years ago, I asked the owner of my fixed wireless ISP if
       | he was planning to support IPv6 and I received a 500 word email
       | rant about the uselessness of v6. I haven't asked again. (I still
       | get a 0/10 score at https://test-ipv6.com/)
        
         | sneak wrote:
         | There is a lot of cultural inertia that instantly biases
         | against anything new in sysadmin/netadmin circles.
         | 
         | It's super annoying, tbh. A subset of technologists only seem
         | comfortable with the technology that was available when they
         | were 18-24, regardless of how old they get.
         | 
         | "What's this? I never needed it before, what's the sysctl to
         | turn it off?"
        
           | themitigating wrote:
           | There's a bias against anything new in human circles
        
           | orev wrote:
           | There is a lot of cultural inertia that instantly biases
           | against anything old and stable in developer circles.
           | 
           | It's super annoying, tbh. A subset of developers only seem
           | comfortable with technology invented in the past 18-24
           | months, regardless of how untested and unstable it is.
           | 
           | "What's this? It was written 2 years ago? It must be old and
           | useless. I'm going to require my app to use the latest
           | version and I don't care what kind of headaches it makes for
           | the people who actually need to make sure it's up an running
           | when users try to use it."
        
             | colechristensen wrote:
             | Both things are true and equally annoying.
        
           | zorked wrote:
           | Just witness the pitchfork army whenever systemd is
           | mentioned.
        
       | bilal4hmed wrote:
       | 0/10 for Xfinity as well on test-ipv6
        
         | btbuilder wrote:
         | I've used ipv6 on xfinity for years, but I do use my own
         | equipment. Unless there are regional differences it's important
         | to make sure it is set up right in your router.
        
           | bilal4hmed wrote:
           | oh damn, let me check on my router then
        
           | tesin wrote:
           | You're absolutely right. I'm in the same situation. 10/10
           | ipv6, but it took a lot of configuration. I'm sure if the
           | parent commenter connected their device directly to their
           | modem via ethernet they'd find they had a functioning ipv6
           | address. Comcast is terrible for lots of reasons, ipv6 isn't
           | one of them.
        
         | jacob019 wrote:
         | While I generally hate comcast, xfinity has good ipv6 support.
         | It may be an issue with your router configuration.
        
         | etbusch wrote:
         | Xfinity provides /64 prefixes to their customers. There must be
         | some missing configuration on your router.
         | 
         | I have a 10/10 score.
        
       | eximius wrote:
       | I'm pretty sure I have IPv6, I just haven't figured out how to
       | set it up on my Mikrotik router :/
        
         | cbdumas wrote:
         | I got IPv6 working via 6rd on my Mikrotik router a few weeks
         | ago following this forum post
         | https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=160314#p788221
         | 
         | If you don't need a tunnel it should be pretty painless, just
         | set up firewall rules and enable IPv6 forwarding
        
       | jachee wrote:
       | Alas most Verizon Fios customers are still out of luck.
        
       | scoopertrooper wrote:
       | Am I the only one that hates IPv6 ergonomics? I have to
       | transcribe IPv4 addresses all the time, I'd hate to try and do it
       | with a 128 bit address. Could they not have gone with 64 bit
       | addresses, was 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 addresses really not
       | enough?
        
         | dmitshur wrote:
         | If https://apenwarr.ca/log/20110328 is still current, you're
         | not the only one.
        
         | londons_explore wrote:
         | Half the bits are unusable anyway...
        
         | lnxg33k1 wrote:
         | As said in another reply, I've been in contact with IPv6 for
         | like 20 years and every year I have to understand it again I
         | fully agree with you and would even say that even 48 bits could
         | have done something with 281,474,976,710,656 values possible
        
         | jacob019 wrote:
         | SLAAC works well and wouldn't without a >= 64 bit subnet. In a
         | typical /64 assignment, the ipv6 equivalent of the 32-bit ipv4
         | public ip is the 64-bit _prefix_ , I think doubling the address
         | space is appropriate.
        
         | Latty wrote:
         | Maybe a bit glib, but I see this as a good thing: a reason to
         | finally fix whatever process requires you to transcribe IP
         | addresses, which is a pain to do even with v4 ones.
        
       | ericj5 wrote:
       | we only need to get to 70% adoption before the rest of us get it
       | via herd immunity. won't be long now
        
       | diegocg wrote:
       | In Facebook stats, the USA percentage is even higher (59%)
        
         | Hamuko wrote:
         | Might be that more people use Facebook on their phones. I'd
         | guess Google is more representative of overall Internet usage.
        
       | colanderman wrote:
       | Naming and shaming: still not available on RCN.
        
       | Hamuko wrote:
       | My ISP is apparently going to adopt IPv6 for fixed connections
       | this year, so something to look forwards to. I think they've
       | already had them for years for wireless.
        
       | tills13 wrote:
       | What's with the cyclical "Ebb and Flow" of IPv6 if you select
       | "IPv6 Adoption" and zoom in?
        
         | wmf wrote:
         | People have IPv6 at home but not at work (or though the work
         | VPN these days).
        
         | modeless wrote:
         | The peaks are Saturdays because consumer connections are more
         | likely to be v6 than business connections.
        
       | bratao wrote:
       | Remainder that Cloudflare when using HCaptcha bot verification
       | still do not support IPV6. It is impossible to solve it when you
       | have a IPv6-only connection.
        
       | pathartl wrote:
       | I wish my fiber ISP was part of that 50%. But nope, here I am
       | behind a CGNAT and was promised IPv6 adoption about a year ago.
       | Unfortunately the only other options in my area (downtown
       | Milwaukee) are some form of wireless, DSL, or Spectrum.
       | 
       | Don't get me wrong, even though my speeds are only about 50% of
       | spec (gigabit symmetric), the upload speed alone is a reason to
       | avoid any other provider. I'm also paying about $25/m less than
       | the equivalent download on Spectrum.
        
         | daxuak wrote:
         | So does mine. The only v6 option is comcast and I'm not
         | switching.
        
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         | lnxg33k1 wrote:
         | So my italian ISP, gives me FTTH, 1gb/s down , 300mb/s up but
         | has 10/10 for ipv6 https://i.imgur.com/lhz4RJy.png
         | 
         | I would rather have 700mb/s more for upload than ipv6 to be
         | honest (only thing I also have public/static ipv4, so maybe
         | that I wouldn't give up ^^)
        
       | lnxg33k1 wrote:
       | Shit Italy adoption sucks, that's so curious like I am 34 years
       | old now but I think I've used IPv6 since I was like 13-14 years
       | old, with tunnels like sixxs and before that there was also
       | another one I forgot the name of, now my italian provider
       | (fastweb fiber) supports it natively, but yeah just wondering
       | now, we sometimes say that tech world changes fast, but can you
       | imagine like how long things like ipv6 have been around, and
       | still haven't had much of an impact from a practical point of
       | view? Like I have a book of abount 150 pages that talks about
       | IPv6, can you imagine that like every year I have to read it
       | again because I just can't seem to retain the knowledge? Not just
       | if it is just like something like XML too focused on machine and
       | not very human friendly, or if it is like unmnemonic, or that you
       | don't get in contact with it ever.. it's so curious for me
        
       | zamadatix wrote:
       | Before everyone laments their ISP is part of the slow half
       | remember the majority of this migration is still driven by the
       | switch to users browsing on mobile device networks rather than a
       | traditional desktop on a hardline. E.g. T-Mobile is IPv6 only for
       | a number of years now, using 464XLAT to let customers access IPv4
       | only services.
       | 
       | Also I'll throw in the standard "HN is still v4 only" :).
        
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