[HN Gopher] The Quest to Trap Carbon in Stone-and Beat Climate C...
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The Quest to Trap Carbon in Stone-and Beat Climate Change
Author : sam100
Score : 38 points
Date : 2021-12-28 20:01 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| wombatmobile wrote:
| > to grab a million tons of carbon, a direct air capture plant
| could devour on the order of 300 to 500 megawatts of energy per
| year--enough to power some 30,000 American homes.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| Great insight as to why we shouldn't stop ramping renewables
| deployments. You need not only cover current electrical demand,
| but demand growth over time, transportation, HVAC, _and all of
| the energy needed to sequester excess atmospheric CO2 emitted
| during human industrialization_ ( >1000 gigatonnes based on
| 280ppm atmospheric CO2 pre industrialization and 420ppm current
| state).
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| Burning ancient sunlight is expensive.
| Ratalala wrote:
| Watts are not energy.
| macanchex wrote:
| https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2021/11/03/Tech-Will-Not-Save-Us...
| victorbstan wrote:
| If you want a history of failed technologies just lol at a Wired
| back issues catalog.
| jeffrallen wrote:
| Climeworks' technology is the real deal, and needs to thrive. The
| only good CCS is 100% carbon negative and sequesters the carbon
| in chemically stable forms. This is it, and we need more.
| Petroleum industry CCS is a scam, but Climeworks is not that.
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| Disclaimer: I'm biased because I'm Swiss and so is this
| technology.
| kornhole wrote:
| We hackers like to believe there is a technological solution
| for everything. These projects feed that delusion. Massive
| reductions and degrowth are hard for us to accept. This article
| somewhat fairly explains how extremely impractical and unlikely
| carbon capture technologies will be. The investments in the
| technology and the PR around them serve more to feed the
| delusion and keep us burning as usual.
| eikenberry wrote:
| I think you can forgive people for wanting to look for
| solutions that don't require millions/billions of deaths, as
| that's the only way you'll see the level of change necessary.
| It will happen naturally over time as economic levels rise
| and reproduction rates drop below sustaining. But that will
| take centuries and lots of resources, so I'm doubtful that is
| what you are proposing.
| drusenko wrote:
| Burning as usual is clearly not sustainable. If you think
| massive degrowth is the only way out then I'm afraid we're
| totally fucked.
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| Massive emissions reductions can also be paired with CDR to
| have even more impact since reductions alone -- basically no
| matter how steep at this point -- are not going to get us to
| where we need to be.
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