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       rC3 Fahrplan - The Chaos Communication Congress 2021 schedule
        
       Author : Tepix
       Score  : 112 points
       Date   : 2021-12-27 10:29 UTC (12 hours ago)
        
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       | tuxuser wrote:
       | is there a simple table representation of talks available
       | somewhere?
        
         | gefhfff wrote:
         | https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/rc3/2021/Fahrplan/
        
           | jesprenj wrote:
           | That's the same one as the linked table. It's not very usable
           | on mobile phone browsers for example ...
        
             | eliaspro wrote:
             | On f-droid there's a dedicated Android app:
             | 
             | https://f-droid.org/packages/info.metadude.android.rc3.sche
             | d...
        
               | [deleted]
        
         | stmuk wrote:
         | https://pretalx.c3voc.de/rc3-2021/schedule/ is better.
         | 
         | Top right hand side has a well hidden pulldown to download
         | .json, .ics etc
        
       | sschueller wrote:
       | https://streaming.media.ccc.de/rc3/csh/hls
        
       | timdaub wrote:
       | I'm depressed about rC3. I totally get that we can't meet up in
       | person and hack all day but this year I've been so unexcited
       | about rC3 that I didn't even bother to get a (free) ticket.
       | 
       | Of course, I value everybody's enthusiasm towards continuing a
       | tradition. I'm happy the scene continues to do their best and I'm
       | grateful to be able to listening in the talks.
       | 
       | But it still feels off. The congress and other chaos events are
       | so much more than what the live streams portait. It's exhibition
       | halls full of nerds. Waves of applauses and cheering of
       | everyone's excitement. Pixelflut, tschunk, blinking LEDs and
       | having an awesome time with my haxor friends for 3 days a year.
       | 
       | Fingers crossed that we can meet in person next year!
        
         | Mizza wrote:
         | I miss the sound system. :(
         | 
         | I liked club music okay, but had never experienced a proper
         | German 8(12?)x18" thumping club system until CCC. I went back
         | to America and built my own folded horn, 6kW system after that,
         | but it's still not the same..
        
           | timdaub wrote:
           | yeah agreed. The disco areas they had in 2019, the sound was
           | so super crisp. I wish I could reproduce the high fidelity
           | clicking they played in some tracks
        
             | dalex00 wrote:
             | Function one soundsystems are the crisp bomb
        
         | tazjin wrote:
         | Some related events took place normally this year, e.g. Camp++.
         | Hackerspaces in some cities are also active, open and provide
         | some of that atmosphere.
         | 
         | Don't passively expect the real Congress to come back (I think
         | it's dead). Work towards finding substitute events that suit
         | you instead, they will grow and eventually replace what
         | Congress used to be.
        
           | gefhfff wrote:
           | Dude, I think you forget about the pandemic.
           | 
           | There's no way any other event could be a in-person event
           | right now.
        
             | monocasa wrote:
             | Yeah, if congress happened in say, August instead of late
             | December, I'm sure it would have happened in person.
        
               | detaro wrote:
               | There were multiple of the European hacker camps
               | scheduled for this year and all the large ones had to
               | cancel, I very much doubt Congress would have been able
               | to happen either.
        
           | ahartmetz wrote:
           | There is no reason to assume that the meatspace Congress is
           | dead. It's no more dead than any other event with large
           | crowds. The demand is there and the will to organize it is
           | there as well.
        
           | lima wrote:
           | Not dead at all - there would've been a "real" Congress this
           | year, had the situation allowed for it.
        
       | dark-star wrote:
       | It is sad that the C3 is going more and more political, and that
       | actual technical content is apparently being phased out.
       | 
       | There are very few technical "hacking" conferences anymore (i.e.
       | not tied to a particular topic, e.g. Linux)
        
         | bijant wrote:
         | Inviting a member of parliament just to talk about being a
         | member of parliament is indeed a bit weird. The CCC has always
         | been a political club but airing a 60 minute ad for an
         | individual politician is indeed a new quality that will
         | certainly be discussed inside the club afterwards.
         | https://pretalx.c3voc.de/rc3-2021/talk/358/
        
           | [deleted]
        
           | gefhfff wrote:
           | > Inviting a member of parliament just to talk about being a
           | member of parliament
           | 
           | Reading from your linked summary, I get the impression it's
           | not just about being a member of the parliament
        
             | bijant wrote:
             | I have read it. It's filled with the usual politicians
             | keyword stuffing but it's literally about being a member of
             | parliament. If you want to be cynical you can call it an
             | unpaid ad placement. The politician will use it afterwards
             | to tout her expertise in "digital matters" because she held
             | a speech at a renowned hackers conference and it will help
             | her advancement in her factions caucus etc. I just don't
             | see what benefit it has for attendees.
        
               | luckylion wrote:
               | To be fair, she's been a political activist partially
               | focused on internet/tech for quite a while (her husband
               | was part of Wikileaks, then founded OpenLeaks). I don't
               | know whether she's a member, but she's very socially
               | progressive and economically very far left, so her values
               | are strongly aligned with the CCC. I don't think it's
               | just a gift for her to speak at a CCC event, it's
               | essentially one of them speaking about the things they
               | like to hear.
        
               | YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote:
               | I hope you are watching the streams not to get into any
               | details in particular. lol
        
           | hannob wrote:
           | This is a person who was close to the community long before
           | she became a politician. And she gave a similar talk 2 years
           | ago: https://media.ccc.de/v/thms-50-als-netzaktivistin-im-
           | bundest...
        
         | lhoff wrote:
         | This year is different. There are no official tracks and
         | therefore no official call for paper. Thats why only the local
         | CCC Clubs (erfas) offer talks.
         | 
         | A lot of these talks are held by people that are closely
         | related to the CCC. I expect that once the congress is taking
         | place offline again, there will be a official track with
         | selected talks.
         | 
         | Also please note that the ccc was founded in the TAZ
         | headquarter on the table that previously belonged to the Komune
         | 1. CCC was political from day one. I maybe wasn't so present in
         | the earlier days but as "the internet" got more intertwined
         | with politics the CCC followed.
        
           | detaro wrote:
           | > _here are no official tracks and therefore no official call
           | for paper. Thats why only the local CCC Clubs (erfas) offer
           | talks._
           | 
           | There was a CfP process and speakers could pick one or more
           | channels they'd like their content to be with (channels are
           | not just individual Erfas too, many streams are run by many
           | different groups together), and the channels coordinated who
           | picks up what talk. At least the channel where I have insight
           | in the process, the majority of talks is by people who aren't
           | "members". So while there are no "main stages", the other
           | channels are open to all (just as many usually are at
           | congress).
           | 
           | EDIT: CfP announcement for reference
           | https://events.ccc.de/2021/11/10/rc3-2021-meta-cfp/
        
           | fest wrote:
           | To save somebody else a Google search: taz is a left-leaning
           | daily newspaper in Germany, and kommune 1 was a student
           | community against conservative thought.
        
         | albertzeyer wrote:
         | This point is being made each year again and again, that it is
         | getting more and more political. I also had that impression
         | myself.
         | 
         | However, I was surprised to see some actual statistics that it
         | was already political right from the beginning (sorry, no ref,
         | I barely remember).
         | 
         | And there are always also a lot of technical talks. It is not
         | really phased out. Maybe just some of the political talks get
         | more attention. Or the attention to political content
         | increases. Or maybe my own attention to political topics, and I
         | just ignored that earlier. But when you look for technical
         | content (at least on a regular C3), there is plenty.
        
           | luckylion wrote:
           | I believe the argument isn't that there was zero politics
           | before, but that it was creative/technical, and oh, we also
           | have some political talks. And now it's politics, and oh,
           | yeah, we still have a few technical talks.
        
             | miskid wrote:
             | The distribution of topics really seems to be about the
             | same. What seems to be missing are the "hacker celebrity"
             | and research talks. But as far as I have seen the bulk of
             | talks have always been similar to those this year. They
             | just don't get the big crowds.
        
             | monocasa wrote:
             | I had a technical talk I was planning on giving, but am
             | saving for when I can be in person. I wouldn't be surprised
             | if I wasn't alone in that.
        
             | YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote:
             | the problem is that you are pretending to care now. it was
             | always the fact especially if you take in regards the
             | founders like Wau holland. I don't even know what you
             | really expect from the ccc since it's very first datenkrake
             | it was left leaning. Maybe the Club isn't something for
             | you.
        
               | luckylion wrote:
               | > the problem is that you are pretending to care now.
               | 
               | No need to be hostile. I haven't attacked you or anyone
               | else.
               | 
               | I never said they didn't have political opinions, it just
               | didn't seem to be politics first. That has changed over
               | the last decade or so, I'm guessing it's a generational
               | shift. I'm fine with that and I'm not asking anyone to
               | change anything. Calm down.
        
               | YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote:
               | There is always this huge perception difference of people
               | that only attend congresses online or per streaming. If
               | you would have been on location for any of the congresses
               | you know how the overall vibe would be rather political
               | than not.
        
             | [deleted]
        
       | albertzeyer wrote:
       | Live streaming: https://streaming.media.ccc.de/rc3/
       | 
       | Recordings: https://media.ccc.de/c/rc3-2021
       | 
       | Relive: https://streaming.media.ccc.de/rc3/relive
       | 
       | Tickets (none available anymore):
       | https://tickets.events.ccc.de/RC3-21/
        
       | badrabbit wrote:
       | Just me or are the talks this year mostly in German? Also, what
       | is it like to attend in person?
        
         | stmuk wrote:
         | One thing to watch for is that some of the German talks
         | confusingly have English titles.
        
         | jtl999 wrote:
         | I noticed that too. However there is realtime translation by
         | volunteers, and they seem to do a good job.
         | 
         | https://c3lingo.org/
        
           | stmuk wrote:
           | Some of the live streams allow you to select an English audio
           | stream.
        
         | jcelerier wrote:
         | My talk / performance on https://ossia.io the 30th will be in
         | english :)
        
           | badrabbit wrote:
           | Cheers, look forward to it.
        
         | eptcyka wrote:
         | There is no in-person conference this year.
        
         | chmod775 wrote:
         | > Just me or are the talks this year mostly in German?
         | 
         | The German talks appear to be largely political, concerning
         | issues one probably wouldn't care about anyways if one does not
         | speak German. For instance there's a talk about making Hamburg
         | ad-free.
         | 
         | With few exceptions the things that may be interesting to an
         | international audience are in English.
        
           | gefhfff wrote:
           | I don't think making cities ad free in general isn't
           | interesting to anyone who's not a German, let alone lives in
           | that specific city
        
         | DocTomoe wrote:
         | When it was still on-location, many people focussed on
         | interacting with other folks, having a drink (see: Tschunk)
         | rather than stand in line to get into one of the Leipzig trade
         | fair halls. Think of it as a big makerspace (Back in Hamburg,
         | both activities were generally intermingled, due to that
         | location being more approachable for such a "living room"
         | atmosphere)
        
           | JaggerJo wrote:
           | Yes, when it was still in Hamburg it was fabulous.
        
       | kgarten wrote:
       | Will be giving a rC3 talk about a new collaboration project:
       | Frisson Waves tonight 22:00 CET (6:00+1 JST)
       | 
       | Talk info: https://pretalx.c3voc.de/rc3-2021-fem/talk/RXUW8B/
       | Stream Link: https://streaming.media.ccc.de/rc3/fem
       | 
       | Work was also presented at Siggraph Asia the last weeks,
       | https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3476122.3484847
        
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