[HN Gopher] The Source of the Nile River: A Mystery That Spanned...
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       The Source of the Nile River: A Mystery That Spanned Three
       Millennia
        
       Author : msolujic
       Score  : 77 points
       Date   : 2021-12-25 10:39 UTC (12 hours ago)
        
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       | Flankk wrote:
       | That is insane. Lake Victoria is in Uganda. So the water flows
       | halfway across Africa through Egypt to the Mediterranean Sea.
        
         | garmaine wrote:
         | And, as noted at the end of the article, Lake Victoria isn't
         | even the real beginning. 4,100 miles from start to finish.
        
           | gshubert17 wrote:
           | or, perhaps, even farther:
           | 
           | https://www.google.com/maps/place/2%C2%B016'55.9%22S+29%C2%B.
           | ..
           | 
           | shows a location near Gisovu, Rwanda, with a photograph taken
           | in 2019 by Keiko Schmidt, of a sign which reads, "This is the
           | furthest source of the Nile. Distance from Egypt: 6,719 km
           | (4,175 miles). 2006: Neil McGregor, Cam McLeay, Garth
           | McIntyre."
        
           | ummonk wrote:
           | My intuitive reaction was "that's long but doesn't feel like
           | it would be wildly different from the Mississippi with the
           | Missouri tributary". If Wikipedia is to be trusted, looks
           | like Mississippi/Missouri is in the same ballpark: https://en
           | .wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rivers_by_length#List_...
        
       | sideshowb wrote:
       | Even assuming you map a river catchment completely, how is the
       | source defined anyway? Furthest water drop from the sea (as
       | measured along the river)? Except in odd cases where that's an
       | underground resurgence, it's going to be pretty unspectacular, so
       | what's the attraction?
       | 
       | Mapping the watershed on the other hand, that's a nice thing to
       | know.
        
       | thathndude wrote:
       | Pretty sure James May Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond solved
       | this a few years ago. It was part of a BBC documentary if I
       | recall correctly.
       | 
       | :)
        
         | haloblue wrote:
         | Came to post this. Top Gear found it back in 2015 or so.
        
       | dr_dshiv wrote:
       | Huh, that's cool. I live by the river Amstel. Wikipedia says "The
       | Amstel begins where the canal Aarkanaal and the river Drecht
       | meet, just north of the village Nieuwveen in the province of
       | South Holland."
       | 
       | But there is so much goddamn water around here, no one really
       | cares whether the "source" is somewhere in the alps.
        
       | murbard2 wrote:
       | > Richard Francis Burton was one of the first Europeans to visit
       | Mecca while in disguise as a Pashtun. Burton supposedly spoke
       | dozens of languages
       | 
       | With any luck he's got the source already.
        
       | Thin_icE wrote:
       | Didn't know about this, very interesting read!
        
       | throwawaycuriou wrote:
       | other than fame it sounds exploration without much of a payout.
       | seems comparable to finding what root of the tree is longest.
       | what am I missing?
        
       | BucketsMcG wrote:
       | I've been on a boat on Lake Tana, the source of the Blue Nile.
       | It's pretty cool how you can see, clear as day, a line across the
       | water where it starts to flow. From there it's downhill all the
       | way to the sea.
       | 
       | Besides that, Lake Tana's a beautiful place. I spent an afternoon
       | visiting peaceful island monasteries, where the monks cheerfully
       | handed me 500-year-old goatskin Bibles to leaf through.
       | Spectacularly beautiful things with Ge'ez calligraphy on one
       | page, and elaborate illustrations opposite for people like me who
       | had no hope of being able to read it.
       | 
       | Ethiopia's the most wonderful, misunderstood country.
        
         | beebeepka wrote:
         | Why is it misunderstood?
        
         | hutzlibu wrote:
         | "Ethiopia's the most wonderful, misunderstood country."
         | 
         | It is still in the middle of a civil war right now, so not the
         | best time to visit.
        
           | AtlasBarfed wrote:
           | https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/11/the-war-nerd-the-
           | tig...
           | 
           | I like the war nerd's dispassionate perspective on things,
           | but I'm not an expert so I don't know how "correct" this is.
        
           | rayiner wrote:
           | Maybe it's accurately understood. :-/
        
       | srean wrote:
       | Brahmaputra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmaputra_River is
       | another notable river whose upper course was not well known till
       | fairly recently.
       | 
       | What fills me with wonder and awe is that it is believed to be
       | older than the Himalayas. Yet it cuts through the Himalayas,
       | originating further North but traveling South, to eventually
       | drain into the Bay of Bengal, sharing the delta with Ganges -- I
       | would be hard pressed to find a more apt metaphor about
       | overcoming Himalayan obstacles.
       | 
       | The river Indus shares the source, Manasarovar with Brahmaputra.
       | Indus lines the subcontinent on the West, draining into the
       | Arabian sea, while Brahmaputra lines it on the East. So
       | essentially, one can consider the subcontinent to be encircled by
       | water.
        
         | httgp wrote:
         | Another fun fact about Brahmaputra - it's the only river in
         | India that doesn't have a feminine name.
        
           | srean wrote:
           | Among the largest rivers perhaps yes but I will not be
           | surprised if there are many that are male. I could think of
           | two rightaway, Ravi and Damodar.
        
         | ummonk wrote:
         | Amazingly, the Sutluj and Ghaghara also originate in the same
         | location, and Ganga's headwaters are in a mountain range
         | nearby. It's almost like Mt. Kailash is the source of all the
         | big rivers in the region.
        
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