[HN Gopher] OBS and Streamlabs Commit to Long-Term Collaboration
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       OBS and Streamlabs Commit to Long-Term Collaboration
        
       Author : haunter
       Score  : 235 points
       Date   : 2021-12-25 08:20 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (obsproject.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (obsproject.com)
        
       | dry_soup wrote:
       | Nice that this issue, which started as a naming dispute IIRC, has
       | been resolved amicably.
        
       | Hamuko wrote:
       | Next stop: TikTok?
        
         | brw wrote:
         | Context for those out of the loop:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29592103
         | 
         | Although Streamlabs violated the trademark instead of the GPL,
         | so somewhat different issues.
        
       | lnyan wrote:
       | Previous post:
       | 
       | The OBS project has accused Streamlabs of copying their name and
       | trademark https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29249766
        
         | andrewflnr wrote:
         | Oof. It's good that they've changed their tune for now, but I
         | wouldn't trust that company as far as I could throw it to not
         | get up to more shenanigans in the future.
        
       | noobermin wrote:
       | Somewhat tangential to this post but I'm happy that OBS is open
       | source and it's established. It's up there with blender as
       | quality open source tools that are rapidly reaching mainstream
       | acceptance.
        
         | PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
         | As the project lead for another "significant" open source media
         | app, Ardour, I want to note how incredibly impressed I am by
         | OBS. The program itself and the extent of it being "the
         | standard" for what it does are unmatched, even by Blender.
         | Every time I use it (not daily but weekly-ish) it reminds me
         | how impressive it really is. I'm not deep into the OBS
         | community, but from the outside, it's also impressive how the
         | application is not obviously surrounded by endless wasted rants
         | about its appearance, which is very out of step with
         | contemporary GUI design, yet remains highly functional.
        
         | Stevvo wrote:
         | OBS isn't "rapidly reaching mainstream acceptance" like Blender
         | is. It has been the industry standard for 10 years already.
        
           | majou wrote:
           | It's even used in TikTok's streaming software, which is the
           | highest usage platform on the internet.
           | 
           | Unfortunately it's been used against GPL.
           | 
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29592103
        
           | geerlingguy wrote:
           | Agreed. In terms of streaming on Twitch, YouTube, or
           | elsewhere, and even for things like budget live production
           | and screen recording, it has become more or less the standard
           | by which other tools are measured.
        
             | ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
             | What does YouTube use for their go live feature from the
             | browser?
        
         | ljm wrote:
         | OBS, Blender, Krita and Godot make for quite a powerhouse of a
         | creative suite.
        
           | prirai wrote:
           | Inkscape.
        
             | fartcannon wrote:
             | Linux, too!
        
               | Shared404 wrote:
               | Also Ardour and LMMS for audio!
        
           | vorpalhex wrote:
           | Now if only we could get a solid photo editor. The Glimpse
           | team is trying but they got a ways to go.
        
             | iou wrote:
             | I didn't know GIMP had been renamed till now, the repo is
             | archived though, is that just because it's a mirror of some
             | email-based-git approach?
             | 
             | https://github.com/glimpse-editor/Glimpse
        
               | ljm wrote:
               | It hasn't been renamed, looks like Glimpse was a fork
               | that's no longer maintained (while GIMP goes on).
        
             | haunter wrote:
             | - Photopea
             | 
             | - Photoshop CS2 is abandonware, can't activate it anymore,
             | Adobe doesn't care and runs perfectly with Wine. Heck I
             | tried it with Bottles [0] and it's so simple. And much
             | better than GIMP/Glimpse
             | 
             | 0, https://usebottles.com/
        
       | i67vw3 wrote:
       | "Collaboration" might be from tech side as I do not see any
       | financial "collaboration" https://opencollective.com/obsproject
        
         | jarrell_mark wrote:
         | Streamlab's parent company Logitech is OBS's largest
         | Organization donor and has been donating since May 2019
        
           | i67vw3 wrote:
           | Did not know that Logitech bought Streamlabs. My comment
           | therefore invalidates.
        
           | bluskiesnclover wrote:
           | Source?
        
             | msk-lywenn wrote:
             | That very page in the parent post. 50000$ from Logitech. I
             | would have expected more.
        
               | ckdarby wrote:
               | Plus the development time they give internally to the
               | open source project.
        
             | Xylakant wrote:
             | Straight on the list of top contributors on the open
             | collective page the GP linked. The source is in the post
             | claiming that there's no contribution.
        
           | chmod775 wrote:
           | > since May 2019
           | 
           | Well. Kinda. They gave a "yearly" contribution of $50,000
           | once in 2019, then never again. Also that was before Logitech
           | bought Streamlabs.
        
             | Kudos wrote:
             | Seems like they were hedging their bets pre-acquisition of
             | Streamlabs to me.
        
             | tw04 wrote:
             | They're a "premier sponsor" on the front page of OBS along
             | with Twitch, Facebook, and Youtube. They're giving far more
             | than $50k/year to earn that spot. The one-time donation in
             | 2019 was likely their smallest.
        
         | geofft wrote:
         | Genuine question - is OBS set up so that all contributions show
         | up there? Or is this the equivalent of a Patreon or something,
         | where a large corporation doing large corporate things would
         | instead write a check (or do a wire transfer) completely
         | unrelated to this website?
        
           | r1ch wrote:
           | Not all financial contributions are shown there. There's a
           | Patreon and also private contributions that exceed the Open
           | Collective tiers, they appear in the Premier section on the
           | OBS homepage.
        
       | JohnHaugeland wrote:
       | Nah, Streamlabs is stealing from other people too
       | 
       | They're villains
        
         | AustinDev wrote:
         | They've copied source code from other small indie alert
         | developers I know a guy who showed me proof they copied their
         | code line from line pre-acquisition, bugs included...
        
       | keyle wrote:
       | I used both in the past. I wonder if anyone has a TL;DR of the
       | story behind this, because I had never heard of any feud?
        
         | poopsmithe wrote:
         | Streamlabs was using the name, "OBS" (Streamlabs OBS aka SLOBS)
         | in their fork of OBS and it led a bunch of people to believe
         | that Streamlabs == OBS.
         | 
         | On OBS github, contributors asked SLOBS to stop doing that, and
         | Streamlabs declined.
         | 
         | Streamer community outrage ensued via Twitter. Large exodus of
         | SLOBS users to OBS. Streamlabs publicly apologized a few days
         | later, and renamed Streamlabs OBS to Streamlabs Studio.
        
           | uyt wrote:
           | >renamed Streamlabs OBS to Streamlabs Studio
           | 
           | Ah that is a good outcome. I pessimistically thought this
           | post was implying that OBS decided to "collaborate" by
           | relenting to huge wads of money and giving up their name.
           | Which would've been a huge shame to open source software.
           | Glad stuff worked out.
        
           | saynay wrote:
           | There was a few other things that tied in to the anger. It
           | turned out Streamlabs had released a series of products that
           | each exactly mirrored the functionality of other popular
           | projects, including in one case stealing the entire product
           | page (including user reviews) and replacing the product name
           | with the Streamlabs version. Just a long series of
           | exceedingly blatant copying and theft.
        
         | leovander wrote:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29249766
        
       | iou wrote:
       | I only used OBS for the first time recently and was blown away by
       | how stable and feature-rich I was. Truly a great OSS project.
        
       | xwowsersx wrote:
       | Great news. Post is a bit light on details though. Anyone know
       | what this might mean in practice?
        
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