[HN Gopher] Create and run your own light shows on Tesla vehicles
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Create and run your own light shows on Tesla vehicles
Author : judge2020
Score : 142 points
Date : 2021-12-24 17:11 UTC (5 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
| fnord77 wrote:
| this seems like an RCE waiting to happen
| aaomidi wrote:
| Probably CE, not sure how this opens the door to an RCE.
| bayindirh wrote:
| It can open the doors alright it seems.
| Dunedan wrote:
| Doesn't running the light show require plugging in a USB
| device, which in turn already requires open doors?
| bayindirh wrote:
| Actually yes, so it already needs open doors, can open
| other doors, but both are literal. I'm not sure opening
| these doors lead to opening the other, proverbial door to
| CE/RCE realms. That may need some more magic.
| kwhitefoot wrote:
| My 2015 Model S 70D is not supported :-(
| gfodor wrote:
| Lol all the negative replies here really drives home the "hacker"
| spirit in "hacker news"
| akira2501 wrote:
| It's parsimonious of me, but "hacker" includes the idea of
| "pushing hardware into uses not intended by the manufacturer."
|
| This is an API that's being straight-up handed to you by the
| manufacturer, a manufacturer that historically has had a
| challenged relationship with the various hacker communities
| that have formed around their products.
| potatochup wrote:
| Do you really think this was originally a planned feature by
| Tesla? That some cynical marketing manager sat down ans
| though "if we do this we'll get X impressions leading to Y
| new sales, lets allocate 0.7FTE engineers to the task"?
|
| I very much doubt the design requirement for the Model X
| include a specification for "muat be able to produce
| Christmas shows". This sure looks like some engineer had a
| spurt of creativity, which qualifies to "hacking" to me.
| typon wrote:
| If this was a jailbreak to control the lights, people would be
| a lot more excited. Tesla closes off their hardware to hackers
| - not exactly the spirit of hacker news
| [deleted]
| lostlogin wrote:
| If Ford made the lights on some cars flash, would it be a mega
| corp trying to go viral, or the hacker spirit alive and well?
|
| I like it, the the cynical angle has some merit.
| potatochup wrote:
| Is it not possible for an individual engineer within Ford to
| have some creativity? To hack on something they weren't
| supposed to? Not every output from a company is top-down,
| corporate-overload, profit maximizing.
| gfodor wrote:
| There is an awesome GitHub repo with lots of cool stuff to
| hack on for Christmas on millions of electric cars. This is
| about as hacker worthy as it gets.
| [deleted]
| gamblor956 wrote:
| Note to Tesla owners: as this modifies the functionality of the
| headlamps and rear lights, your car is not street legal at night
| while using this code and you will get ticketed if you use this
| while driving.
| easton wrote:
| I'm guessing the prompt to get out of the car means it won't go
| while the show is running.
| jedberg wrote:
| It only works when the car is stopped and the driver is
| outside.
| Illniyar wrote:
| What a wonderful idea. Let me just plug code from some random guy
| from the internet into my car.
|
| I'm sure this feature has no exploitable bugs and was not rushed
| to meet the holiday deadline so it's super secure and safe.
| RL_Quine wrote:
| I mean, of all things this is pretty tame, the car otherwise
| includes a web browser which contains parser for every single
| file type you can imagine.
|
| https://github.com/FalconChristmas/fpp/blob/master/docs/FSEQ...
|
| This is the format being used by the system, which is not new
| and appears to be part of a maintained open source project.
| bdcravens wrote:
| You could say the same thing about running random bash
| scripts on your computer, since it too has a browser.
| pmorici wrote:
| That is the official Tesla GitHub you are supposed to make your
| own code to plug in
| Illniyar wrote:
| That's the problem. You really should not have your car
| manufacturer suggesting it's okay to put some random guy's
| USB stick in your car. If it was just some guy making a hack,
| that'll be awesome ,but since it's official it inherently
| implies it's safe to do it. Even if Tesla intended it to be
| only for self use.
| renewiltord wrote:
| You're supposed to read the code, my dude. This is a hacker
| forum.
| jeroenhd wrote:
| What code, though? The repo contains a validation script and
| some resources and templates for a third party program.
| There's not a lot of code to read.
| renewiltord wrote:
| It's your responsibility to do due diligence for the code
| you're going to run. Don't run it if you're not capable of
| doing that due diligence.
| tailspin2019 wrote:
| Just wait until USB drives with "custom Tesla light shows"
| start turning up on eBay!
|
| "we have super convenience for you pleasure, simply you plug
| into car and agree security waning messaage on screen for
| custom lite show fun for you and friends!!!"
| erulabs wrote:
| I mean, it is called _Hacker_ news. Not to be flippant, but if
| you want trusted, known, secure, official, warranty-backed
| behavior, you might go read like, CNET or something instead?
| t8e56vd4ih wrote:
| finally something Tesla is good for and nobody is in danger
| petarb wrote:
| Would love to see what people come up with
| vmception wrote:
| Would love to see a video or animated gif example!
| bhauer wrote:
| Now we just need a marketplace/forum for sharing custom .fseq
| files.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| A GitHub repo? awesome- type list [1].
|
| [1] https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome
| yellow_lead wrote:
| This seems like a lot of work for a marketing stunt
| judge2020 wrote:
| It's been a thing for a while on the X, they've just opened it
| up to running custom scripts from a USB. I'm sure it's
| generated thousands of sales for them at this point.
|
| The X light show: https://youtu.be/-jyPkg0yXzM?t=6
| winternett wrote:
| People have been doing that with Honda Civics for decades...
| Now if they put all that energy into build quality and making
| sure that auto pilot doesn't kill anyone, we'd have something
| impressive... :/
| joezydeco wrote:
| If it creates an endless stream of YouTube videos featuring
| Tesla cars, all for free after this point mind you, it seems
| like a win to me.
| comeonseriously wrote:
| Is this legal? Seems a great way to distract other drivers.
| corndoge wrote:
| I can think of a bunch of scenarios where that concern doesn't
| apply, and so can you.
| comeonseriously wrote:
| Of course, but I am positive plenty of "look at me" types
| will drive around with it[0]. And I'm sure you know that,
| too.
|
| [0] If possible. I don't see where they explicitly say you
| can't.
| Faaak wrote:
| The light show doesn't engage while driving, so no.
| jedberg wrote:
| It only works when the car is stopped and the driver is
| outside.
| lastofthemojito wrote:
| >Supported Vehicles
|
| > Model S (2021+)
|
| > Model X (2021+)
|
| > Model 3
|
| > Model Y
|
| Someone didn't get the memo from Elon that proper
| Teslexicographical sorting is S, 3, X, Y.
| winternett wrote:
| There's a workaround... Just manually flip the high beams,
| shift through drive modes, vigorously alternate turn
| indicators, and pump your brakes furiously.
| mciancia wrote:
| Fixed now xD
| velmu wrote:
| Is this Full Self Driving?
| zaroth wrote:
| Amazing to read through that repo and then come to realize that's
| not some reverse engineered hacker project, but actually a
| trillion dollar car company publishing that on their own GitHub
| page. Very cool.
| la6471 wrote:
| Don't do it while driving
| unbanned wrote:
| This is not very cool. This is a tremendous waste of resource
| and yet more stuff that is added to the Tesla ecosystem which
| inevitably will go wrong.
| Agent766 wrote:
| This was probably used internally to develop the built in
| light show, so open sourcing it wouldn't take much work and
| could generate some new PR buzz.
| groone wrote:
| Waste of resources is how other car companies get attention
| of potential customers.
| halfmatthalfcat wrote:
| Oh lighten up...Tesla is pumping out a ton of value already.
| razemio wrote:
| I can't stand this attitude of yours. Not everything needs to
| be efficient, has to have a goal, make money or make sense.
| Have fun for once and put that capitalism brain aside for
| just 2 seconds.
| unbanned wrote:
| You don't have to. Just collapse the comment and move on.
| servercobra wrote:
| It's a good marketing stunt for a company that doesn't have
| traditional PR/marketing. And curious how some pre-recorded
| flashing lights and opening hatches will inevitably "go
| wrong".
| [deleted]
| vmception wrote:
| Tesla has 70,000 fulltime employees and this repo has 2
| contributors.
|
| It is impossible for this to be a tremendous waste of
| resources even if this was the only thing those employees did
| for the company. Its a rounding error.
| mensetmanusman wrote:
| Adding some joy to the world is not necessary a waste of
| resources.
| hutzlibu wrote:
| I very much agree, but I still would like to add, that not
| everyone enjoys light pollution ...
| MattRix wrote:
| what does light pollution have to do with any of this?
| hutzlibu wrote:
| Blinking lights are a joy for many on christmas, for
| others, it is merely annoying light pollution.
| hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
| shepherdjerred wrote:
| What percentage of the world's light pollution do you
| suppose will come from this feature?
| Gys wrote:
| No video :-(
| solarkraft wrote:
| Here's a video of the pre-loaded light show on the Model X:
| https://youtu.be/Xg_0NRi-OxE
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