[HN Gopher] DARPA open sources resources to aid evaluation of ad...
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       DARPA open sources resources to aid evaluation of adversarial AI
       defenses
        
       Author : infodocket
       Score  : 67 points
       Date   : 2021-12-21 20:09 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.darpa.mil)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.darpa.mil)
        
       | say_it_as_it_is wrote:
       | I realize that IBM is the US government's IT department but their
       | involvement doesn't instill a great deal of confidence that
       | anything this program has created is more than a heavily
       | documented dumpster file
        
       | sijdnszlci wrote:
        
       | mrobot wrote:
       | A book about IBM and Nazi Germany
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
        
         | voz_ wrote:
         | What is your point?
        
       | quantomac wrote:
       | My startup works with IBM and they have amazing tech. My
       | technology company is in the defense domain and my main interest
       | is actually quantum led AI but we have some more solutions for
       | the present. With OpenPages by IBM, we can assign governance and
       | regulations to our data discovery. I look forward to bringing
       | solutions to the US government, and lower level services to other
       | nations.
       | 
       | The future of warfare is coming no matter what we do. The US
       | should be prepared first. Even now, our AI is containerized and
       | can orchestrate itself. I look forward to helping achieve a more
       | pleasant and easier to govern planet.
       | 
       | Besides, if you did not do anything wrong, its not like you have
       | anything to worry about.
        
         | linschn wrote:
         | This reads like AI generated text. I literally can not
         | understand what you are trying to say.
        
           | CyanBird wrote:
           | It is just general US jingoism and fears of "the other" to
           | retroactively try and excuse the expansion of the US military
           | and military industrial complex onto "cyberspace " so as to
           | avoid criticism for it
        
           | the_optimist wrote:
           | It's a copypasta proposal. The point is to cast aspersions
           | and socialize a point of view without delivering information.
           | Very social media-like.
        
             | tonguez wrote:
             | Could you elaborate? The point of it is to asperse what
             | exactly? What is the point of view that someone is
             | attempting to socialize? That people should not care about
             | privacy if they have nothing to hide?
             | 
             | So Big Brother has a bot create a post like this to make
             | people think that other people want less privacy? Why
             | wouldn't a bot just post something pre-written by an actual
             | human instead of some weird collage of robotic-sounding
             | sentiments like, "I look forward to bringing solutions to
             | the US government"? That is not something a human would
             | actually say. It it supposed to look like it was translated
             | from another language? Is it just to waste our time trying
             | to decipher it?
        
           | AnimalMuppet wrote:
           | I _think_ (hope?) that it 's sarcasm. The last paragraph is
           | the tip-off.
        
         | neatze wrote:
         | > Besides, if you did not do anything wrong, its not like you
         | have anything to worry about.
         | 
         | Out of curiosity what do you mean specifically by this
         | statement ?
        
           | potatoman22 wrote:
           | I can't wait for the definition of 'wrong' to change so it
           | includes more people :)
        
         | xet7 wrote:
         | > Besides, if you did not do anything wrong, its not like you
         | have anything to worry about.
         | 
         | AI already makes mistakes, detecting wrong people:
         | 
         | https://www.google.com/search?q=ai+detects+wrong+person
        
         | pokepim wrote:
         | Did Edward Snowden do something wrong? Because he is treated by
         | the government like he did but he actually helped humanity as a
         | whole. Your comment reeks of hardcore military shilling...
        
           | adventured wrote:
           | > Did Edward Snowden do something wrong?
           | 
           | Yes and it was still quite likely the correct choice/approach
           | (how he went about it) in terms of the overall benefit to
           | privacy globally (which seems to have been his aim).
           | 
           | Snowden could have attempted a few other legal approaches to
           | being a whistleblower. The risk would have been far higher
           | they would have buried him and the information in one form or
           | another; they certainly would have tried. And even if he had
           | succeeded through that channel, less information would have
           | gotten out about what they were doing.
           | 
           | Doing something wrong doesn't always lead to a bad outcome or
           | vice versa, there is no inherently fixed link there. Doing
           | something right doesn't always lead to a good/positive
           | outcome for example, that's one example I think more people
           | can very easily relate to; and for the same reason that's
           | true, the exact opposite is true.
        
             | CyanBird wrote:
             | There's just no way that information about what was (is)
             | going on would have come out to the public through normal
             | channels, after all the very reason why Snowden did it was
             | after senior nsa officials explicitly lied to congress
             | about them spying on US citizens
        
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