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       Opto-electronic voice transceiver for covert infra-red light
       communication
        
       Author : walterbell
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2021-12-20 09:29 UTC (13 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.cryptomuseum.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.cryptomuseum.com)
        
       | ryanmercer wrote:
       | There was just something romantic about the tech of the cold war.
       | Now things are mostly a bit of code injected here or hidden
       | there, but the cold war (and even WWII) was this steady stream of
       | curious gadgets and methods of collecting and passing
       | information.
        
       | buescher wrote:
       | I almost didn't go to the article because light beam
       | communication was a perennial project in electronics magazines -
       | like this one: https://antiqueradio.org/pe0655.htm
       | 
       | The DDR took the concept to a really nice level of execution,
       | though! Interesting that they used an infrared LED as their light
       | source, given that the device is contemperaneous with the
       | commercialization of infrared laser diodes.
       | 
       | Also there are hyperlinks in the article to pages about earlier
       | devices of this kind that are worth checking out.
        
         | sigmaprimus wrote:
         | Laser microphones were projects that also made their rounds
         | through electronics magazines, mostly in the classifieds on the
         | last few pages right next to the sea monkey adds.
         | 
         | These supposedly worked on the principal that peoples voices
         | would create vibrations on window glass and that by shining a
         | laser beam on said window, it was possible to demodulate the
         | observed laser changes back into sound.
         | 
         | I heard rumors that certain 3 letter agencies used more
         | powerful particle beams to penetrate heavy curtains and other
         | sound dampening measures employed in embassies as counter
         | surveillance. As I heard it, the curtains needed to be changed
         | on a regular basis due to them becoming radioactive.
         | 
         | If these devices actually existed and miraculously worked I
         | would be very impressed with the operators that managed to
         | calibrate them, given all the unknown variables presented in
         | the field.
        
           | jhgb wrote:
           | > the curtains needed to be changed on a regular basis due to
           | them becoming radioactive
           | 
           | Why would they become radioactive?
        
             | sigmaprimus wrote:
             | IDK maybe some sort of Xray like beams were used for better
             | penetration? If the stories are even true, it could have
             | been as simple as changing the curtains to remove listening
             | devices or vary the resonant frequencies.
        
               | jhgb wrote:
               | Anything that would make curtains radioactive would
               | almost certainly also kill anyone in the room in fairly
               | short order. So how many people were killed this way?
        
       | verytrivial wrote:
       | Oh great, now I'm on eBay looking for Minox cameras again ...
        
       | mykhamill wrote:
       | Kind of reminds me of how tight beam communications are used in
       | The Expanse universe.
        
       | bobowzki wrote:
       | cryptomuseum.com really is one of the best websites. I'm
       | constantly blown away both by the depth and breadth.
        
       | bane wrote:
       | What's the method of modulation? I couldn't quite figure that out
       | in the article. Is it just the IR light's amplitude?
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | an on/off switch?
        
         | buescher wrote:
         | Yes, AM, from some of the links in the article. Probably for
         | backwards compatibility: the video version could carry 5 MHz FM
         | video with an AM audio channel.
         | 
         | https://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/opto/jo406/index.htm
        
       | mkj wrote:
       | Reminiscent of http://ronja.twibright.com/about.php , from before
       | wifi was cheap. It's a 10mbit optical link (AUI ethernet!) using
       | bright LEDs and magnifying glasses.
        
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