[HN Gopher] Ask HN: How to negotiate salary with a remote distri...
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       Ask HN: How to negotiate salary with a remote distributed company?
        
       I'm a staff engineer with almost 10 years of experience working on
       projects that successfully saved 500k+ dollars annually. Last week
       I finished interviews with a well-known tech company that I would
       love to work for. The problem is that they made me a really low
       offer (45k annually) because I live in a "low-cost country". I am
       currently making double than that and I even have another offer for
       10% more than my current salary.  The position is for senior IC and
       I would love to work there because the work is super interesting
       and would look very well in my resume. However, the company says
       they can't pay more in my country even though there's no single
       employee here and they pay higher salaries in other places. What is
       the best strategy to convince them to pay what I think I'm worth?
        
       Author : slyzmud
       Score  : 6 points
       Date   : 2021-12-19 20:11 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
       | rubyist5eva wrote:
       | Tell them what you want, tell them you have another offer, if
       | they say no - Walk away. It really is pretty simple.
        
         | BadCookie wrote:
         | I agree with this. Either it's true that they can't increase
         | the offered salary, or it's not. The only way to find out is to
         | be willing to walk away.
        
       | yuppie_scum wrote:
       | See if you can string along the hiring manager. It's so hard to
       | hire right now they may be pretty desperate. Get him or her all
       | worked up and excited. Then when it becomes obvious that the
       | budget is the only thing standing between him/her getting some
       | sorely needed help or not, he or she will be very sympathetic and
       | probably spend some time pleading on your behalf with the powers
       | that be.
       | 
       | Of course some companies are just never going to "get it" and
       | they'll all end up suffering as a result.
        
         | slyzmud wrote:
         | That's a great strategy. I'm having the negotiation with the
         | recruiter and I've just talked with the hiring manager for the
         | behavioral interview, it went really well. I hope he might want
         | me enough in the team to do something about.
        
       | poulsbohemian wrote:
       | Don't waste anymore of your time. Smart companies pay for quality
       | talent regardless of location. Could be they deliberately low
       | balled just to get you to expose your number - which tells you
       | right there that they just view you as a number. Lots of
       | employers in the world, if you believe in yourself you'll find
       | one that respects your talent.
        
       | visox wrote:
       | sounds like a joke so maybe treat it as such
        
       | toomuchtodo wrote:
       | Take the higher than your current salary offer, they've already
       | demonstrated how they value work and those who perform it (by
       | geography).
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       | Super interesting work is overrated compared to maximizing comp.
       | Money buys opportunities and freedom. Optimize for comp and
       | quality of life.
        
       | codegeek wrote:
       | If you were already making double of 45K which I assume is 90K,
       | wouldn't you have discussed that upfront with the recruiter first
       | before doing the interviews ? That is a huge gap for you to try
       | and address AFTER the initial interviews.
        
       | e1g wrote:
       | I run a US-based startup with a relatively small budget and hire
       | developers in "low-cost" countries. I expect to pay $70k-$100k
       | for a regular competent developer and more for a solid self-
       | motivated developer. If the company is legitimate, they can
       | afford $90k++. Try to speak directly with whoever would be your
       | manager - if you can demonstrate to them that you're a) good b)
       | excited to work on their problems, and c) require zero
       | babysitting (as a senior person), they'll override whatever silly
       | numbers HR put on the form.
       | 
       | $45k is beyond silly; it's disrespectful for senior talent,
       | regardless of where they live. If the _manager_ holds the same
       | line as HR, consider yourself lucky as that company is not where
       | you 'd want to work.
        
       | rajacombinator wrote:
       | Just say no. Low ballers are scum and cannot be tolerated.
        
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