[HN Gopher] Comparing the Librem 5 USA and PinePhone Beta
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       Comparing the Librem 5 USA and PinePhone Beta
        
       Author : underscore_ku
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2021-12-19 18:51 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | yosito wrote:
       | This is incredibly detailed, which is impressive. But in the
       | first two minutes of reading it, the conclusion is basically,
       | neither phone is ready to use as a daily driver.
        
       | zmix wrote:
       | I want a phone I can use with a single hand, that has a really
       | good camera (within physical smartphone limits, of course), still
       | has upper class hardware specs and doesn't place me on Apple's
       | property.
        
         | thepete2 wrote:
         | I own a Pixel 4a, which although still big in my opinion, is
         | still on the smaller side. Smartphones have become crazy big
         | for some reason...
        
         | sofixa wrote:
         | If those are your only requirements, there are a ton of
         | Android-based smartphones out there, based on your hand size.
         | Google's Pixel, Samsung's galaxy, Sony's weirdly named series
         | to name a few.
        
       | throwawayboise wrote:
       | A long and detailed comparison, but if you are looking for a
       | summary "which one is better" conclusion or even opinion, there
       | isn't one (at least I didn't find it).
        
         | branon wrote:
         | Very long and very detailed, and a lot of fun to read. Closest
         | thing to a conclusion I found was the notion that the devices
         | are quite different from one another. They seek to accomplish
         | the same basic goal, but cater to different groups. This seems
         | reasonable and I'm glad there's some freedom of choice.
         | 
         | Both projects are rather far along at this point, at least
         | relative to other, past attempts. Personally I've had a lot of
         | fun with the PinePhone which I opted for mainly because the
         | Librem 5's price tag is out of my reach.
         | 
         | I'm excited for the PinePhone Pro to launch which I'll be
         | purchasing as well. One thought that the author expressed,
         | about buying into these projects not necessarily to receive an
         | immediately functional product, but to participate and invest
         | in improving the state of affairs as a whole, really resonated
         | with me.
         | 
         | I think the Pro will really help tip the scales from
         | "technically functional curiosity" to "viable daily driver" --
         | the current state of the device, while excellent in a relative
         | sense, isn't _quite_ enough to replace Android for me.
         | 
         | It's hard to tell if it's just not ready, or if my expectations
         | keep changing even as the device's capabilities improve. It
         | feels like the "Year of the Linux desktop" problem, just with a
         | phone this time. It's always technically ready, yet somehow
         | also simultaneously not ready in a more practical sense. Maybe
         | I just need to be more involved?
         | 
         | Perhaps it's even more sinister than that. Maybe the current
         | duopoly (Apple/Google) continues to develop their ecosystems
         | partly out of self-defense. The faster they "innovate" and add
         | useless features (like the author's list of anti-features), the
         | further "behind" independent projects like Pine64/Purism appear
         | to be.
         | 
         | Thankfully the trained eye can discern that these devices are
         | in a class by themselves. Hopefully they don't get compared to
         | Android/iOS too often, like I just did. Only with the best of
         | intentions, I promise!
        
       | mattl wrote:
       | I can't see a compelling reason to spend $2000 on a phone that
       | ships with broken audio.
       | 
       | $200 for a Pinephone is okay if you're okay with the idea it will
       | be hard to use.
        
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