[HN Gopher] Man to sue parents for giving birth to him
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       Man to sue parents for giving birth to him
        
       Author : acqbu
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2021-12-19 17:20 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | axegon_ wrote:
       | > Your parents had you instead of a toy or a dog, you owe them
       | nothing, you are their entertainment.
       | 
       | As cringy as this may be, it's depressing how many people I can
       | name off the top of my head who had children because they wanted
       | a pet. Subsequently they figured out that having a kid is hard
       | and instead of facing the consequences, they resorted to buying
       | expensive toys in order to keep them quiet and not have to deal
       | with them. Needless to say it didn't end well for the kids.
        
         | browningstreet wrote:
         | When you have kids instead of a pet, it can lead to having a
         | vacation home instead of a divorce. Seen that too.
        
       | hjek wrote:
       | There's a string holding his beard.
        
         | beermonster wrote:
         | At this time of year it's in vogue
        
       | aaronrobinson wrote:
       | https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8267604/
        
       | throwawayay02 wrote:
       | Of course this particular instance is just humourous, but I can
       | imagine a real and reasonable case:
       | 
       | Imagine a child that was born with birth defects that reduce
       | their life expectancy and quality of life. If they can prove
       | their parents knew of the high likelihood of their condition, and
       | still chose to go ahead and birth them, they might have a case.
        
       | frankbreetz wrote:
       | >A demand like this could cause a rift within any family, but Mr
       | Samuel says he gets along very well with his parents (both of
       | whom are lawyers) and they appear to be dealing with it with a
       | lot of humour.
       | 
       | Wouldn't there be a lot of court fees associated with this?
       | 
       | Seems like an expensive joke.
        
         | Fezzik wrote:
         | Court fees are generally not-that-high in trial courts. For
         | example, in Oregon you can cover filing fees for multiple
         | pleadings and a multi-day jury trial for less than $2,000.
         | 
         | Not sure about India though. Ultimately it's attorney fees that
         | getcha.
        
       | dustintrex wrote:
       | (2019)
        
       | benmmurphy wrote:
       | (2019)
        
       | Ansil849 wrote:
       | This case just seems to be obvious trolling, but it does bring up
       | interesting ethical questions. Why, for example, is it not OK to
       | kidnap a newborn and raise it as your own, if you give it a much
       | better life than its biological parents would have been able to
       | give it?
        
         | nyokodo wrote:
         | > if you give it a much better life than its biological parents
         | would have been able to give it?
         | 
         | Because you have no right to kidnap someone else's child.
         | Because the human rights of the parents to raise their child
         | and the rights of the child to be raised by their parents both
         | determine that you shouldn't. Because you have no authority to
         | determine what is better for the child. Because the ends don't
         | justify the means. Take your pick.
        
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       | Ozzie_osman wrote:
       | There's a Lebanese film with a similar premise:
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capernaum_(film)
        
       | pddpro wrote:
       | > "There's no point to humanity. So many people are suffering. If
       | humanity is extinct, Earth and animals would be happier. They'll
       | certainly be better off. Also no human will then suffer. Human
       | existence is totally pointless."
       | 
       | The path towards Enlightenment is not unlike the five stages of
       | grief. The realization of pain and suffering, the anger towards
       | it, the desire to change it, the depression resulting from
       | realizing our inability to change it, and finally the acceptance
       | of life as it is and the ability to find joy in what we can.
       | 
       | Many of us have been through it and survived, coming out a tad
       | bit wiser. Let's hope that he, too, will be able to find at least
       | something that'll make him realize that it's not so bad after
       | all.
        
         | rhn_mk1 wrote:
         | From the article, it doesn't seem that life being bad is the
         | point:
         | 
         | "But it's not that I'm unhappy in my life. My life is good, but
         | I'd rather not be here. You know it's like there's a nice room,
         | but I don't want to be in that room"
        
       | throwawayboise wrote:
       | The guy sounds mentally ill.
        
       | redis_mlc wrote:
       | "I must admire my son's temerity to want to take his parents to
       | court knowing both of us are lawyers."
       | 
       | Love it! :)
        
       | fsflover wrote:
       | > So as we didn't ask to be born, we should be paid for the rest
       | of our lives to live, he argues.
       | 
       | So, basic income would solve it.
        
         | ars wrote:
         | Basic income also means taxing everyone, so you also have to
         | pay to live.
        
           | extropy wrote:
           | Only if you have other income.
        
           | deltree7 wrote:
           | You don't have to tax everyone for basic income.
           | 
           | Thought Experiment: Let's say we eventually have a super
           | robot, which can build other robots which can produce all the
           | goods and services the humanity can consume sustainably.
           | 
           | Now, You(Government representing the people) can print money
           | and give it to all of humanity to buy the goods and services
           | from this Super Robot. At the end of the year, this 'super
           | robot' (or the owner of the super robot) will have all the
           | money that is printed.
           | 
           | Next year, you can
           | 
           | a) Print a fresh set of money and distribute, leading to this
           | super robot accumulating all the money (but really who cares,
           | you can make laws that limit how much non-renewable assets a
           | single person or robot can own)
           | 
           | b) Tax this 'super robot' 99.9999% and redistribute it again.
           | 
           | Repeat (a) or (b) forever
        
             | hellisothers wrote:
             | The most far fetched part of this story is a "Govt
             | representing the people" that would tax the robot.
        
               | deltree7 wrote:
               | Facts on ground prove the point.
               | 
               | https://taxfoundation.org/top-1-percent-pays-more-taxes-
               | bott...
               | 
               | Don't let your bias or brainwashing go against facts. It
               | is inevitable that the top 1% will be bearing most of our
               | taxes
               | 
               | Donald Trump was elected by a populist movement, not by
               | the donor class.
               | 
               | Government also printed $10 Trillion in the last two
               | years and gave it away to mostly poor
        
               | tata71 wrote:
               | > Government also printed $10 Trillion in the last two
               | years and gave it away to mostly poor
               | 
               | Incorrect. QA/corporate bonds have been out of control,
               | PPE etc loans that will be forgiven en masse after being
               | given to the best and coziest customers of the large
               | banks, etc.
        
       | pcwelder wrote:
       | "In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many
       | people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."
        
         | taddevries wrote:
         | Don't forget your towel.
        
       | pvaldes wrote:
       | It seems that somebody wants to pay litigation costs
        
       | inuev0 wrote:
       | But he beaten all his possible brothers and sisters at the cum
       | race. He fought to be the first, he killed others to born, he
       | choose to born (trollface)
        
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