[HN Gopher] RadioShack - Bringing Cryptocurrency to the Mainstream
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       RadioShack - Bringing Cryptocurrency to the Mainstream
        
       Author : neb_b
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2021-12-18 20:00 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.radioshack.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.radioshack.com)
        
       | PragmaticPulp wrote:
       | Fascinating to watch cryptocurrency and blockchain become the go-
       | to pivot for those who have run out of traditional ways to be
       | profitable.
       | 
       | Is this the original company transitioning to cryptocurrency? It
       | was the RadioShack brand simply auctioned off to someone who
       | wanted to use an established brand for their crypto project?
        
         | kranke155 wrote:
         | This is unfortunately how people get into the habit of thinking
         | all crypto and blockchain is a scam - because a huge numbers of
         | scams and silly ideas are indeed running in the space...
        
           | bredren wrote:
           | It has been like this since the beginning.
        
             | kranke155 wrote:
             | The space is in dire need of regulation. Sociopaths go for
             | the lowest level of effort with the maximum level of
             | rewards. Right now making a dumb crypto token and shilling
             | it is likely the easiest immoral way to make money in this
             | world.
        
           | OnlineGladiator wrote:
           | What would you say is the ratio of genuine crypto
           | innovation/research/companies compared to scams? Considering
           | the signal-to-noise ratio, I don't think it's that weird to
           | just say "it's all a scam anyway" since that rule of thumb
           | actually works extraordinarily well. Unless you're talking to
           | an expert or having a deep dive you've gotten the point
           | across correctly.
        
             | kranke155 wrote:
             | I'm not sure what it is, it might be as high as 99-1. But
             | the 1 is pretty incredible. Look at fxhash on Tezos, it's
             | created something truly incredible in generative art.
        
           | AYBABTME wrote:
           | What's an actually useful, not-contrived use case that crypto
           | enables that isn't otherwise possible _for the average
           | resident of a stable/wealthy country_?
        
             | dopidopHN wrote:
             | I work in crypto since a little while, and have following
             | the tech since 2014 or so.
             | 
             | I'm still really skeptical of that trash fire going
             | anywhere. Including my day job.
             | 
             | I can only thing of one application, and it still have to
             | deliver:
             | 
             | Providing mesh network of wifi, LoRA or 5g where the node
             | are administered by individuals.
             | 
             | The nodes are mining a proof of coverage. And effectively
             | being payed to deliver a service ( providing wifi/LoRA/5g
             | coverage )
             | 
             | The nodes cannot trust each other, and having a
             | decentralized ledger help them split the bill and
             | compensate the nodes for their work.
             | 
             | In my view it would provide a "last miles delivery of
             | coverage"
             | 
             | I have a few project in mind that I won't mention here. The
             | crypto they are using is not subject to much speculation.
             | 
             | That my favorite use of that tech stack. ( since the
             | decentralized land ledger projects seems to not go anywhere
             | )
        
             | valzam wrote:
             | (I am hugely sceptical on most things crypto) generally
             | speaking the view of a rich, stable country might make you
             | blind to some real use cases because you just don't have
             | them. But for people in less privileged countries having a
             | permissionless system of digital dollars is actually
             | extremely useful. Also my pet theory is that Bitcoin MIGHT
             | suck money out of the property market and make home
             | ownership more affordable.
        
             | meowkit wrote:
             | Decentralized Identity for individuals and devices.
             | 
             | I've found the images here to be a good quick and dirty
             | summary: https://www.gsma.com/identity/decentralised-
             | identity
        
               | 65 wrote:
               | Maybe I'm just dense, but this seems more like a
               | centralized identity more than a decentralized identity.
               | Which, if you lose, like I have with various wallets I've
               | had over the years, seems extremely sketchy.
        
             | fungiblecog wrote:
             | there isn't one. but by the time people realise that a few
             | unscrupulous people will have made a ton of - fiat - money
             | out of the gullible masses.
        
             | kranke155 wrote:
             | NFTs have proven incredible for indie digital artists
             | across the world, but particularly for artists from the
             | third world where making a living off them is a bit easier.
             | There's a huge honest indie art movement on the Tezos NFT
             | space.
             | 
             | Good places to look around in: Fxhash (amazing generative
             | art market that creates uniques through interaction between
             | the code and the blockchain) Hic Et Nunc (now multiple
             | sites, fully decentralised art market) OBJKT (sort of a
             | better UI for Tezos NFTs, same stuff as in Hic).
        
               | addicted wrote:
               | What does NFTs add to this that couldn't be achieved by
               | FXHash hosting ownership status in a PostgreSQL database?
        
               | kranke155 wrote:
               | Nobody trusts a single SQL database or any single
               | developer or company. The advantage is that you have a
               | trust less, decentralised database no one can alter and
               | has thousands of people hosting it.
               | 
               | This is a common fallacy I've seen among developers - the
               | idea that because the technical solution is inferior it's
               | social value must be inferior. Blockchain is not a
               | technical solution, it's a social solution. At least as
               | far as NFTs it has solved an insoluble problem, which was
               | no one trusted anyone in particular with a ledger about
               | digital art ownership - but they do trust everyone/a a
               | large group that's incentivised to keep hosting it, and
               | has problem to be tampering resistant.
        
         | dekervin wrote:
         | There was a similar trend in 2017 I think, but it died off with
         | the bear market. It has scents of the original dotcom bubble.
         | Slap a .com extension on your brand, collect the cash.
        
           | paulgb wrote:
           | KODAKCoin (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KodakCoin) seems
           | to be the most literal 2017 parallel to this: old, nostalgic
           | brand scooped up and used to rent legitimacy for a silly coin
           | scheme.
           | 
           | It's weird how amnesiac the crypto market is, it feels like
           | everything is a rerun these days of something we lived
           | through just four years ago.
        
             | chrisfrantz wrote:
             | That was the first one I thought of as well.
        
       | sswaner wrote:
       | This will really help address the complaint that cryptocurrency
       | is just a Ponzi scheme.
        
         | echelon wrote:
         | This feels like the era of webvan and pets.com, except those
         | things were simply premature.
         | 
         | A token defi swap of croins and crokens (crypto coins and
         | tokens) brings zero value to the world.
        
       | weaponizedlinux wrote:
       | Is this a joke?
        
         | pcthrowaway wrote:
         | My first impression was that it might be serious (would sort of
         | make sense for Radioshack to pivot), then I saw Tai Lopez
         | listed on the team and assumed it was a joke.
         | 
         | But it appears to be "serious" (inasmuch as anything involving
         | the anthropomorphic joke named Tai Lopez can be)
         | 
         | I work in the crypto space and am generally pretty bullish, but
         | this is the biggest sell signal I've seen. I wonder if Tai took
         | out a big short position and is now using his name to crash the
         | market.
        
       | filmgirlcw wrote:
       | You had me at Tai Lopez. Honestly, I'm very sad this is real and
       | not a pitch-perfect parody site because everything about it is
       | literally satire.
       | 
       | Tai Lopez shilling for some RadioShack coin. What a world.
        
       | clpm4j wrote:
       | If you scroll down and look at the 'The Team', you'll see it's
       | two guys Alex Mehr and Tai Lopez. They bought the Radio Shack
       | brand a couple of years ago:
       | https://www.retaildive.com/news/radioshack-brand-acquired-by...
       | 
       | Tai Lopez is a motivational speaker celebrity (first I've heard
       | of him). And Alex Mehr is apparently a former co-founder of Zoosk
       | (a dating app).
        
         | pdq wrote:
         | It's savvy but pretty scammy, as people will assume the
         | businesses are still alive, when they are just shell fronts,
         | using the prior logo/branding/domain names.
         | 
         | Here's Tai's parent company and their purchased brands:
         | 
         | https://www.retailecommerceventures.com/
         | 
         | Some big ones that I recall going to back in the day are Radio
         | Shack, Pier1, Stein Mart, and Linens N Things.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | Old brands pretty much never die. I haven't seen one recently
           | but for a time I was getting public relations pitches for
           | RCA-branded devices that were clearly some generic Chinese
           | knockoff things.
        
         | oh_sigh wrote:
         | About 5 years ago literally everyone was being bombarded with
         | youtube ads by tai lopez, where he is in his garage showing off
         | a lambo and talking about how books are his most prized
         | possession
        
         | justinsaccount wrote:
         | Tai Lopez is the "here in my garage" douchbag
         | 
         | https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/here-in-my-garage
        
           | MrMember wrote:
           | It did result in one of the best YouTube poops of all time so
           | there's that at least.
           | 
           | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0GIwTG8V-Ko
        
             | sillysaurusx wrote:
             | I had such a hard time deciding whether to vouch this
             | comment. But if the knowyourmeme page is on topic, then
             | surely linking to this video (which that page links to) is
             | also on topic.
             | 
             | It's also interesting that such an influential brand is now
             | owned by a random rich person. I never thought that my
             | childhood hideout would become a punchline. The only way to
             | make it better would be to add a little intro to the video
             | like "At RadioShack, garages are important to us. That's
             | why we've decided to invest in 47 new lambos that we bought
             | with our RADIO tokens..."
             | 
             | What a sad ending for the only electronics shop in town. My
             | friend and I used to hang out there after school and try to
             | build logic gates and simple counters.
             | 
             | Uno reverse card: Tai Lopez uses the funds from this to
             | rebuild electronics shops across the world, and becomes a
             | household hero for nerds everywhere. Since this outcome is
             | so weird, that outcome suddenly seems not-impossible.
        
         | colecut wrote:
         | Tai Lopez is the master of flexing in front of books he hasn't
         | read, cars he doesn't own, women he paid to be there..
        
         | er4hn wrote:
         | My first thoughts were: This is a scam, I'm on a page spelled
         | almost like "radioshack.com"
         | 
         | Then: The old radioshack page has let their domain lapse and
         | been taken over.
         | 
         | Then: Ah, Tai Lopez, the only man I've ever known to keep his
         | bookcases in the garage, like a set of house tools.
         | 
         | On a side note, on Tai Lopez's head shot the man in the lower
         | right facing the camera looks like he's realized this
         | motivational talk is going nowhere.
        
       | presspot wrote:
       | Can you say, "Jump the shark"?
        
       | bredren wrote:
       | What a bummer for this brand.
       | 
       | At one point, I had hoped that Amazon would buy up all the radio
       | shacks and convert them into Amazon prime lounges and provide
       | basically a sort of temporary workspace/island of calm you could
       | escape to in any suburb.
        
       | computerliker wrote:
       | time is a flat circle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KodakCoin
        
       | joebergeron wrote:
       | > RadioShack, and RadioShack alone, can bridge the gap and "cross
       | the chasm" of mainstream usage for Cryptocurrency.
       | 
       | This is it, folks.
        
       | sergiomattei wrote:
       | This is embarrassing.
        
       | SamBam wrote:
       | > "Meet our Partners and Collaborators"
       | 
       | This is literally just the list of defunct brandnames Tai has
       | acquired.
        
       | okareaman wrote:
       | The Shack is Back
        
         | ggfgg wrote:
         | And smoking crack
        
       | alphabet9000 wrote:
       | RadioShack devolved in such a way, with a long dying death, that
       | all of my memories of early radioshack have been replaced with
       | later-year memories of their store, when they became a total
       | joke. I have no nostalgia for the brand. I'm sure it would be
       | different if they went out of business with dignity in like 2001.
       | 
       | The last time I went into Radioshack to 'get something' in 2011,
       | i needed to get a couple of cables to connect a mini HDMI cable
       | to a full size connector. They didn't have the exact cable so I
       | had to get several different ones to make the connection work.
       | The price for the cables was literally $91, so I didn't get it,
       | and ordered it online instead. Sad
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | And honestly even the memories of early-ish RadioShack involved
         | a lot of rose-tinted glasses. Even in the 70s there was a lot
         | of crap consumer electronics mixed in with the readily-
         | accessible cables, components, and maker stuff (such as it
         | was).
        
       | shiftoutbox wrote:
       | And the bubble is at Maximum!
        
       | DeepYogurt wrote:
       | The grift continues
        
         | dannylandau wrote:
         | Grift - is a small scale swindle. This is a large scale
         | swindle, so need a new term that represents the scale.
        
           | jerbearito wrote:
           | Macrogrift
        
           | echelon wrote:
           | Since they stole web3 and crypto as nomenclature, I've
           | started calling them croins and crokens.
        
           | jagermo wrote:
           | Megagrift.
           | 
           | So sad that Kimble isn't able to add to this...
        
       | musicale wrote:
       | This is not the RadioShack we need, but maybe it's the RadioShack
       | we deserve. :(
        
       | outside1234 wrote:
       | Its just incredible to me that this is allowed to go on and on.
       | It is clearly BS all of the way down - where are the regulators
       | to stop this before the massive crash?
       | 
       | This is two guys who bought a brand and are using it to defraud
       | people out of their money - how is this legal?
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | You're preaching to the same group of people who, in the main,
         | oppose any regulation that restrict the ability of people to
         | invest in anything they want to invest in.
        
         | mistrial9 wrote:
         | ask the investigator, Judge and jury in this case --
         | apparently, you
        
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       | zanek wrote:
       | Relevant tweet with Tai Lopez explaining:
       | https://twitter.com/tailopez/status/1333228688456904707?s=21
        
       | iamleppert wrote:
       | Even the corpse of RadioShack has been brought back from the dead
       | with the promise of crypto riches. Scrolling through their
       | partners is like a who's who of old defunct 90's brands.
       | DressBarn?? It makes it crystal clear what their strategy is.
       | 
       | I have fond memories of RadioShack, it's part of what got me into
       | computers and electronics. But taking those memories and
       | weaponizing them against me to try and extract what I can only
       | assume is money, feels wrong on so many levels.
       | 
       | If anything (and I don't think I'm alone in this sentiment) I
       | will avoid this new Frankenstein creation. That said, I'm sure it
       | will still entrap enough people to make these two guys even
       | richer while still being a net negative for society as a whole.
       | 
       | File this under the same drawer as Mariah Carey partnering with
       | McDonald's to sell more junk food.
        
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