[HN Gopher] Notches Gone Wild
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Notches Gone Wild
Author : hzlatar
Score : 89 points
Date : 2021-12-17 18:48 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| lordnacho wrote:
| My TopNotch app somehow stopped working, so that the notch
| started being visible again. Only solution was to simply use
| black as my background.
| notJim wrote:
| This is honestly hilarious and adorable. I wish I had a notch so
| I could install it.
| reaperducer wrote:
| It's very much like the old days of computing. Before
| everything got serious and humor became taboo.
| neilparikh wrote:
| You can if you'd like to:
|
| > And for those of you without a new MacBook Pro, Notchmeister
| also includes a genuine replacement notch. Be warned that side
| effects of this feature include making you want a new Mac even
| more than you already do. Sorry.
|
| (from App store description)
| coding123 wrote:
| So notch owners... what happens when you watch a video full
| screen.. do you just miss out on the pixels in the notch area?
| Sharlin wrote:
| How many 16:10.4 aspect ratio videos do you think there are in
| the world?
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| It depends on the player, but usually the top of the video is
| aligned with the bottom of the notch.
| dcdc123 wrote:
| This has been my experience. Really the notch is far less
| distracting than I thought it would be. I think the one thing
| that bothers me the most about it is that they made the menu
| bar slightly bigger so it is visible under the bottom of the
| notch rather than perfectly aligning to it. Still not as
| annoying as the garbage palm rejection.
| abletonlive wrote:
| garbage palm rejection? i think it's great. have never had
| an issue with it.
| wlesieutre wrote:
| The area below the notch is 16:10, so your typical 16:9 video
| content is letterboxed and won't even touch the bottom of the
| notch
| mortenjorck wrote:
| The un-notched (and un-rounded) portion of the screen has the
| same dimensions as the previous screen, so the notch is only
| taken out of additional pixels added to the top. In practice,
| it's more of a dedicated menu bar area than part of the regular
| screen (it just goes black if there's no menu bar to display).
| comeonseriously wrote:
| I dislike the notch as much as the next guy, but they started
| with a 16:10 display and actually ADDED pixels on top around
| the camera. In this case, you're not losing ANY pixels due to
| the notch. Videos should play just fine given that most are
| 16:9 or wider.
| dionian wrote:
| exactly, everyone focuses on the notch. this is why the notch
| is totally worth it. I would not trade the notch for a
| smaller screen.
| pdpi wrote:
| The screen is sized such that the area below the notch is the
| standard 16x10 macs have used for a long time. You can think of
| it as having the same displays we've always had. In contexts
| where the active application knows how to deal with the notch,
| it basically operates as if you've reclaimed some of the space
| in the top bezel. When the active application doesn't know how
| to deal with it (full screen apps that don't declare they're
| willing to deal with the notch), the top just stays dark and
| you have a regular-sized bezel.
|
| The display has really good contrast, and you wouldn't be able
| to tell it's not just the bezel. I legitimately can barely see
| it even when I'm trying to.
| mdasen wrote:
| Yea, it's a 16x10.4 display. If you're watching 16x9 content,
| it didn't stretch vertically on old Macs that were 16x10
| either. On this screen, it just doesn't come close to the
| notch. If you're doing full-screen with something that
| doesn't have a Mac menu bar, it just uses the display area
| under the notch so you don't see any notch.
|
| I like that they basically put the menu bar and the webcam in
| the same space. It means I have more vertical space for the
| rest of my stuff. Is it perfect? I'd love a camera that could
| be invisibly embedded under a display and still work
| perfectly, but I'd also love to be able to teleport. It seems
| like a good engineering compromise to make something that
| works well. Really, the new MacBook Pros are just amazing in
| ways I'd resigned myself to putting up with Apple being
| annoying. No more touch-bar, giant escape key, emoji key,
| ports, and not trying to shave every tiny bit of weight/size
| when doing so would compromise usability. They even went with
| a 20% larger battery for the 14" and the 12% sharper display
| isn't transformative, but it's a nice upgrade.
|
| The notch is a good use of otherwise wasted space, at least
| for me.
| amenghra wrote:
| Some phones have under screen cameras. Teleportation is a
| different matter...
| thomaspark wrote:
| This takes me right back to those quirky old Mac OS 7/8/9
| extensions that destabilized your system.
| amenghra wrote:
| Remember Aaron? Gave your Mac a futuristic Copland feel for the
| mere cost of 4MB of ram or half the total.
| dvt wrote:
| It's funny how much of big deal the notch was when the new Macs
| came out, but after using my MBP for a month+, I never (and I
| mean _never_ ) even notice it or get bothered by it.
| robertoandred wrote:
| How do you deal with menus running into it?
| rgovostes wrote:
| I am not exaggerating that I didn't notice the notch at all
| until about an hour into using a new MacBook Pro. I thought I
| would be bothered by the "fat" menu bar but in reality I spend
| very little time looking at the menu bar and they do a good job
| minimizing it with dark backgrounds. (I rarely use full screen
| mode, where it is much more obvious.)
| knolan wrote:
| I played with the new models in a store today for the first
| time and I was surprised that even in a couple of minutes that
| it wasn't noticeable. Probably iPhone induced notch blindness.
|
| What was noticeable was how nice the new body shape is.
| lolive wrote:
| You did not use your apps in full screen mode before, right?
| mikepurvis wrote:
| Movies are letterboxed on a 16x10.4 screen anyway, and games
| could easily be letterboxed or not-- most games have their
| critical HMI elements inset somewhat from the edges of the
| screen anyway because of TV overscan.
| dvt wrote:
| Only movies or games, not typical apps -- I guess that's one
| case I didn't consider.
| nevi-me wrote:
| It's not noticeable in full screen because the menu area
| becomes black, such that there's no notch standing out. I see
| it as extra screen space for the menu, clock and taskbar.
| 88840-8855 wrote:
| Maybe then I suggest installing notches right, left and at the
| bottom of the screen. I am pretty sure you will never (and I
| mean never( even notice them or get bothered by them. :)
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| I'm astounded Apple approved this. Guidelines for both iOS and
| macOS include "don't draw attention to the notch".
| GekkePrutser wrote:
| They don't have to approve anything on Mac. You can install
| stuff without using the app store
|
| Edit: oh wait sorry I see they have published it on the app
| store. Cool
| ASalazarMX wrote:
| Of course they do, ha ha. They could resume a few of those in
| "Don't dare mock us or our products".
| dawnerd wrote:
| Obviously it draws attention away from the notch! /s
| radley wrote:
| I was curious what happens if you don't have a notch. The app
| installs a "no f4k3 genuine replacement notch" so you can still
| enjoy the benefits.
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