[HN Gopher] Infant burial reveals a Mesolithic society that hono...
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       Infant burial reveals a Mesolithic society that honoured its
       youngest members
        
       Author : diodorus
       Score  : 28 points
       Date   : 2021-12-16 04:51 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com)
        
       | poulsbohemian wrote:
       | It's always fascinating to see how other cultures lived and where
       | they assigned value or importance in their culture. That said, I
       | don't understand stories like this that seem surprised that past
       | cultures mourned loss. Certainly they faced a lot more infant
       | mortality and shorter overall lifespans than we do, such that one
       | might think they would become hardened to it, but it would be
       | hard to believe they would be able to completely turn off the
       | emotions. Some might say that I'm overlooking that this was a
       | female child and that these past societies lacked equality and
       | gender enlightenment of our modern society. Even on that I find
       | myself questing why we make these assumptions. It's pretty clear
       | there are some universal constants through time and culture -
       | parents love their children. They may parent differently based on
       | time and place, but it's an innate _human_ behavior to love and
       | mourn them.
        
         | irrational wrote:
         | morn > mourn
        
           | poulsbohemian wrote:
           | Thank you, I'm well aware, but I can't fix the fact we live
           | in an overzealous autocorrect world that fucks up everything.
           | Just in typing the past line I had to thrice fix words that
           | the technical powers that be deemed to be incorrect.
        
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         | goda90 wrote:
         | It might be because some other well studied cultures seemed to
         | dismiss the death of children callously:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_exposure
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | ReactiveJelly wrote:
         | > I don't understand stories like this that seem surprised that
         | past cultures mourned loss
         | 
         | Me neither.
         | 
         | I wondered if the article is supposed to be subtly anti-
         | abortion, but it's not like the website has any obvious links
         | to anti-abortion political parties.
         | 
         | It's just kinda weird. Yeah, don't all primates mourn infant
         | death? Wikipedia tells me the Mesolithic period only began
         | 20,000 years ago, so these would have been genetically modern
         | humans.
         | 
         | It's good when science finds obvious stuff, but we don't have
         | to present it as shocking when it does.
        
       | uplifter wrote:
       | >Child funerary treatment provides important insights into who
       | was considered a person and afforded the attributes of an
       | individual self, moral agency, and eligibility for group
       | membership. Neve shows that even the youngest females were
       | recognized as full persons in her society.
       | 
       | Alternatively, it shows that ancient people were as terrified of
       | baby ghost hauntings as we are today. Those baby ghosts need to
       | be appeased, through costly ritual and material sacrifice, lest
       | they return and torment the living.
       | 
       | I mean, it seems as valid an interpretation as the article
       | authors' one, no?
        
         | WaitWaitWha wrote:
         | > Alternatively, it shows that ancient people were as terrified
         | of baby ghost hauntings * _as we are today*_.
         | 
         | (emphasis added)
         | 
         | >I mean, it seems as valid an interpretation as the article
         | authors' one, no?
         | 
         | What? No.
        
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