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       Hi everybody, I'm Roman from Termius (YC W19, HN launch
       https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20118727). I want to share
       news about a new exciting feature that we wanted to build for a
       long time. It's Terminal Sharing. Terminal Sharing enables
       engineers to get instant help from their colleagues by providing a
       link to their terminal output updated in real-time. There is also a
       mode where the viewer can enter commands from their end.  When I
       was getting into programming, some of my biggest problems were:
       compilation errors or not being able to set up something on a Linux
       server. One of the ways to get help in such a case is to ask a
       friend or colleague who has done it before. One more thing, we all
       remember times (before the pandemic) when teammates could come to
       your table and check out where you got stuck and often it's in a
       terminal window. Unfortunately,it's often impossible in the post-
       COVID era when most of the teams work remotely  Of course, there is
       always a way of using a multiplexor like tmux, byobu or screen.
       However, it's a bit annoying because you have to deal with access
       like adding keys or passwords. Then you have to communicate back
       and forth to see if the person is there. You also need to remember
       to start those tools before you end up with an issue. And finally,
       you need to remember to remove the access later. The whole thing is
       even harder on Windows with Putty. Alternatively, you can use zoom
       and screen sharing, but it requires dealing with control over the
       keyboard input, which is quite cumbersome.  This is why we built
       Terminal Sharing in Termius (https://termius.com/windows). If you
       need help from your friend or colleague, then you can create a live
       session in just a second. You get a unique link to sharein just two
       clicks. Terminal Sharing is available on Windows, Mac, and Linux,
       no mobile support yet. You and the viewers need only to have the
       free version of Termius to use basic Terminal Sharing features. We
       like the idea of giving this feature for free to spread the word
       about the product and build more advanced, paid, collaboration
       features for teams later.  In terms of the technical
       implementation, Terminal Sharing uses WebRTC under the hood, and it
       tries to establish a peer-to-peer connection when possible. WebRTC
       uses TLS 1.2, which encrypts the traffic.  Check it out here:
       https://termius.com/windows. We're still testing usability and
       viability of this feature, so any feedback is welcome. The feature
       is free, but it requires an account (no subscription required!).
       Please share your feedback in the comments!
        
       Author : rkudiyarov
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2021-12-15 20:12 UTC (1 days ago)
        
       | ziggus wrote:
       | Aside from the whole "Why are terminals over WebRTC a thing!?"
       | arguments, I have a minor nitpick: give some indication that the
       | 'viewing' terminal is read-only. If I have a dozen terminals
       | open, some of which are 'mine' and some are 'yours', it would be
       | nice to be able to see at a glance which ones are which.
        
         | rkudiyarov wrote:
         | great suggestion, we will take it into account!
        
       | DiabloD3 wrote:
       | Neat idea, but any reason why I can't also pipe the output to an
       | existing terminal (ie, tmux-esque faux terminal resizing)?
       | 
       | Also, is this the company that forced the Electron-based terminal
       | named Tabby to switch names?
       | 
       | Also, any reason terminals keep re-using the name of the old
       | bitmap font that all of us Linux users back in the early 00s
       | used? Terminus is a _great_ font.
        
         | rkudiyarov wrote:
         | It's more about easiness of doing it in the moment when you
         | need help or to demonstrate something. It's especially helpful
         | for less advanced users.
         | 
         | Can't comment on Tabby as we never contact them directly or in-
         | directly. The same about the font, our company name is Termius
         | :-)
        
       | rhtgrg wrote:
       | I was looking for something like this recently, and found tmate
       | [0], which is an open source solution to the terminal-sharing
       | problem.
       | 
       | I have no idea what Termius is, but I have some feedback for you
       | -- your landing page takes over 4 seconds (!) to show anything
       | for me on Firefox, even if I have visited the page before. This
       | doesn't seem to be related to loading resources alone, since that
       | happens fairly fast.
       | 
       | (I am not on a 56kbps connection.)
       | 
       | [0] https://tmate.io/
        
         | rkudiyarov wrote:
         | thank you for the feedback.
        
       | garf21 wrote:
       | Termius on Windows is slow and buggy in my experience. It could
       | be great software but little has been done to address this for at
       | least the past two years.
       | 
       | It's also yet another subscription, cheapest being $8.33 per
       | month which is more than Microsoft Office. The Enterprise plan at
       | $29 per month is even more unreasonably priced and is one of the
       | reasons why, as an organisation with 1,000 engineers, we're not
       | using the software.
       | 
       | I've been using VanDyke's SecureCRT/FX bundle for
       | Mac/Windows/Linux - their support forum is great and they're
       | super responsive at adding new features.
       | 
       | The only benefit of Termius seems to be a few nice colours and
       | the dis benefit of being able to store your SSH keys on Termius'
       | servers.
        
       | [deleted]
        
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