[HN Gopher] Tuxedo Stellaris: A Powerful Linux Laptop
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Tuxedo Stellaris: A Powerful Linux Laptop
Author : ekianjo
Score : 46 points
Date : 2021-12-15 13:52 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| xupybd wrote:
| I have a cheap gaming laptop. It's called an Infinity o5. They're
| rebranded Chinese laptops. They look identical.
| https://www.infinitygaming.com.au/o5-4r7g5ti-888-gtx-1650ti/
|
| That said it's a great laptop, the best I've ever owned.
| simlevesque wrote:
| Aren't these like Clevo cases ? I bet they are.
| joncp wrote:
| > barely thicker than an inch and weighing in at less than five
| pounds
|
| I haven't bothered with a laptop that bulky in over 10 years.
| simlevesque wrote:
| Kernel 5.11 is a poor match for the 5900HX. They should try again
| with 5.15. It has additional performance enhancement and fixes
| the suspend issue mentionned. I was able to do it on Ubuntu with
| an app called 'mainline'.
| bee_rider wrote:
| When I hear 'powerful linux laptop' I think essentially portable
| workstation. This, on the other hand, appears to be very much a
| gaming laptop (1080p at 240hz with a fancy graphics card).
|
| Good luck to them! Linux gaming has certainly made some strides.
| I don't think I'd bet my livelihood on selling a ton of these,
| but it is neat that somebody has decided to try.
| bionoid wrote:
| > 1080p at 240hz with a fancy graphics card
|
| On manufacturer's website [0], both the 15" and 17" Stellaris
| are listed with WQHD IPS-Panel (2560 x 1440 pixels) - I was
| looking at them just a few days ago.. The article lists 1080p
| as option, but it's not possible to order.
|
| [0] https://www.tuxedocomputers.com
| avhon1 wrote:
| Apart from styling, what is the difference between a portable
| workstation and a gaming laptop?
| jstanley wrote:
| Whether the focus is on graphics or computation, I expect.
| netizen-936824 wrote:
| Too bad GPUs are terrible for compute then
| avhon1 wrote:
| Which one focuses which way? When I think "workstation", I
| picture people doing CAD, video editing, and GPU-
| accelerated simulations and number crunching, in addition
| to people compiling code.
|
| Games aren't just GPU-bound, either. Unreal says they
| develop their games on systems with "NVIDIA GeForce GTX
| 970" and "Six-Core Xeon E5-2643 @ 3.4GHz".
|
| https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-
| US/Basics/InstallingUn...
| VectorLock wrote:
| Why are 10 keys practically ubiquitous outside of Apple? Typing
| to the side feels quite awkward.
| zeta0134 wrote:
| I won't buy a laptop without one these days. I instinctively
| reach over to my 10 key to enter numbers, since I can touch
| type there. With the row above my standard keyboard I have to
| look down. I'd wager they're popular for office roles that need
| to deal with a lot of spreadsheet work.
| baq wrote:
| The M1 Air redefined (for me obviously) what a laptop should be.
| Fanless, efficient, great touchpad and display and crucially
| _just works_. I don't know why all other laptops generally need a
| year (windows, more on Linux) of bios and driver updates to not
| suck, but it's maddening.
| Isthatablackgsd wrote:
| > great touchpad
|
| I wish the touchpad weren't too large though or improve the
| palm detection. If macOS have the feature, then it is not on
| par as other trackpad manufacture which their palm
| detection/rejection is superior to Apple's. It is easily to
| mistouch it with my palm because of the offset placement from
| the standard keyboard. And it happens too often for me, I have
| it to set to autodisable the touchpad if my Bluetooth mouse is
| connected to it. But that just remove the important utility of
| the touchpad.
|
| One thing I like about how the disabled touchpad will also
| disable the haptic feedback of the clicking. So, I know if the
| touchpad is disabled or not. It felt so weird for the first
| time when it is disabled since it is not clicky anymore.
| Because I thought it have depression underneath it. Blew my
| mind when I discovered it uses haptic feedback to mimic the
| touchpad depression. It felt so realistic!
| HalcyonicStorm wrote:
| I own a personal MBP and 2 work MBPs. I am still in the market
| for a laptop like this. I would buy this for the express intent
| of being able to game when I go visit my parents. I'm usually
| visiting them for 1-2 weeks at a time. I dont want to transport
| my gaming desktop for a visit of that length. Apple laptops are
| just not the same use case as this laptop.
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| I'm thinking of picking up a laptop for a similar use case.
| In my case I'm deciding between the Air and a mid-tier laptop
| I can throw Windows or Linux on. One thing I wonder about is,
| if I go with the Air can I get by with cloud gaming? xCloud
| and Geforce Now work reasonably well, as does Steam's built
| in remote desktop.
| ansible wrote:
| I assume that toting along a SFF desktop is a non-starter?
| Assuming you can get _any_ GPU at a reasonable price, it is
| possible to build a relatively small and light desktop for
| less than a gaming laptop, and still get better performance.
| The size / weight will be greater though, and obviously it
| assumes you have a keyboard, mouse and monitor at the
| destination.
| keyle wrote:
| > "While Tuxedo confirmed to me Tuxedo OS is open-source, the
| source code is not publicly available."
|
| So... closed-open-source. Got it.
| lbrito wrote:
| Ubuntu and Nvidia card.
|
| No thanks.
|
| Maybe if they figure out how to disable the dGPU on the fly after
| over a decade of back and forth with fixes and regressions[1].
|
| [1] https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/ubuntu-20-04-nvidia-
| gp...
| vrajanap wrote:
| Haven't seen similar configuration with Linux support in American
| companies.
|
| Has anyone bought this from their website and had it delivered to
| USA? How was the process regarding paying import taxes?
| nvllsvm wrote:
| Pretty sure Tuxedo rebrands Clevo or some other OEM's laptops.
| The Stellaris's chassis looks very close to this Xotic PC
| laptop. https://xoticpc.com/collections/custom-gaming-laptops-
| notebo...
| m0ngr31 wrote:
| I've been pretty impressed with my Framework so far. 64GB ram and
| it runs Ubuntu perfectly. Only thing missing is a dGPU and maybe
| a bigger battery.
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| How's the trackpad on Linux?
| JoshTriplett wrote:
| The day they offer a model with physical mouse buttons, I'm
| ordering one.
| p_j_w wrote:
| As soon as Framework puts out an AMD module, I am buying one of
| those. They sound amazing.
| CoastalCoder wrote:
| I'm definitely biased towards all-AMD Linux laptops these
| days. And this past summer I bought an ASUS ROG Strix G15
| Advantage Edition.
|
| I really liked that laptop's CPU and dGPU. In Linux, I always
| have an easier time with GPU drivers/behavior with AMD vs.
| nVidia.
|
| Unfortunately, with that particular laptop I realized I also
| care a lot about the key caps. I really hated their flatness
| and (to me) peculiar texture.
|
| So I looked around for another all-AMD laptop, and the best
| candidate I spotted was the System76 Pangolin. Unfortunately
| it appears to have very similar key caps, so I didn't get
| one.
|
| I ended up reluctantly buying a 2021 Lenovo Legion 5 Pro (AMD
| CPU, nVidia dGPU), because the keyboard feels much better.
| I'd rather deal with nVidia driver hassles than with an
| always unpleasant keyboard.
|
| But I would have gladly payed another $100-200 for a laptop
| with the best of all worlds:
|
| - AMD CPU
|
| - AMD dGPU
|
| - pleasant-feeling keycaps
|
| I'm hoping that as AMD gains more laptop market share,
| eventually I can get such a laptop. (Assuming I stick with
| x86, which is less relevant to me each year.)
| p_j_w wrote:
| I mostly have a similar set of requirements as you. I swap
| out the need for a dGPU with a nicer display, though.
| Framework sounds amazing for the reparability, almost to
| the point that I'm willing to overlook some of that other
| stuff.
| oldandboring wrote:
| Ditto. Mine runs Manjaro perfectly, and was way more affordable
| than my previous two Thinkpads.
|
| That being said, having more laptops out there that can run
| Linux out of the box is better than having fewer. This Tuxedo
| machine looks nice.
| fmajid wrote:
| Dell and Lenovo are supporting Linux on a small subset of their
| laptop lines, but it's good to see pure-play Linux vendors like
| Tuxedo, System76 or Starlabs.
| bitwize wrote:
| 16 GiB is not a lot of memory these days.
|
| Nor is 6-8h a long battery life.
|
| This thing is gonna be made to look like it's standing still by
| the next-gen, if not current-gen, MacBook Pros, which will still
| have twice the battery life.
|
| Let's face it: Apple has raised the bar on what a laptop should
| be (like they do every few years). Only the most neckbearded of
| FOSS developers are going to lay out that kind of scratch for a
| laptop whose design basically hails from three years ago; the
| rest of us will appreciate the hardware and software advantages
| the Apple ecosystem gives us.
| flatiron wrote:
| My non work laptop has 4GB (2013 MacBook Air running Linux).
| Works perfect as a daily driver. I wouldn't want to work on it
| but I don't code huge projects on my personal time. I prefer
| not to code on off time.
| HalcyonicStorm wrote:
| Can't play Halo Infinite on an MBP. Can't on this one either
| but I can at least attempt to dualboot Windows.
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| Halo Infinite actually works pretty well on my MBP via
| xCloud. The only hassle was that you need to do a workaround
| (chrome extension) if you want to play with mouse+keyboard.
| There's some quality drop when there's lots of explosions on
| the screen, but it's probably still better quality then you'd
| get running the Windows version on the same hardware
| snazz wrote:
| There are plenty of people outside of "the most neckbearded of
| FOSS developers" who could use an x86 laptop with a beefy GPU--
| perhaps you need CAD software or fully supported bare-metal
| Linux for your job?
|
| I'm typing this on an Apple silicon MacBook, but I won't argue
| that it's perfect for everyone everywhere.
| schleck8 wrote:
| 16 GB is more than sufficient for the vast majority, especially
| with a decent frequency.
| pram wrote:
| This is just a Clevo. System76 (the Pangolin) and a billion other
| companies sell the exact same thing
|
| https://clevo-computer.com/en/laptops-configurator/purpose/m...
| schaefer wrote:
| yeah, I recognize that keyboard.
|
| I purchased and returned a system 76 Pangolin same day. A key
| cap fell of in less than an hour of use and was not user
| reparable. I would have had to swap out the entire keyboard
| module. To System76's credit, they offered to do the work under
| warranty... but on the other hand - no way in heck am I paying
| $2.5k for something that literally falls apart in minutes.
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