[HN Gopher] James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [v...
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James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]
Author : open-source-ux
Score : 47 points
Date : 2021-12-15 11:54 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| open-source-ux wrote:
| _Summary_ :
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| He talks about:
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| - His favourite products
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| - The worst designed product he owns
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| - His design heroes (and why)
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| - On the lack of experience when creating a product and turning
| that to an advantage (see below)
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| - On creating a prototype and patenting your physical product
|
| - Speed of execution when creating a product
|
| - Why hand dryers are not quiet
|
| - Why he believes design and engineering is inseparable
|
| An interesting opinion from Dyson on the lack of experience:
|
| > "I think a lack of experience is a great help. An expert thinks
| he knows it all but he's also rather inhibited by his experience,
| his knowledge. He finds it difficult to steer off the well-known
| path.
|
| > Whereas if you have a lack of experience, but huge curiosity,
| and you approach your new challenge with naivety, I think it's
| easier for you as inexperienced designer to come up with
| something different and to follow a different path."
| verisimi wrote:
| Does he talk about the design of the legal structure for his tax
| avoidance vehicle that holds the land he has bought up in the UK?
| lol
|
| https://whoownsengland.org/2017/09/19/why-is-james-dyson-hoo...
| "By July 2017, Farmers Weekly was reporting that Dyson's empire
| had grown to 13,355 hectares, or 33,000 acres."
| brink wrote:
| Bill Gates is doing the same thing. It's annoying.
|
| https://agfundernews.com/gates-if-not-for-climate-then-why-i...
| verisimi wrote:
| "Despite sustainable agricultural development being one of
| the key focus areas for his nonprofit Gates Foundation, the
| Microsoft co-founder claims that his farmland investments are
| not tied to climate. But while Gates might be solely focused
| on returns, one should not overlook farmland investing's
| potential to drive sustainability on a massive scale."
|
| how is a non-profit able to make farmland investments at all?
| What exactly is the difference between an investment vehicle
| and a non-profit?
|
| But... these guys care for us!
| jimnotgym wrote:
| I really dislike Dyson.
|
| 1) Move to Singapore, citing that Britain won't join the euro
| as a factor. 2) EU energy efficiency test goes against his
| product 3) Campaigns for Brexit
|
| I had one of his vacuum cleaners and it was under powered and
| always needed cleaning inside. I got a Meile with a bag
| afterwards. Much more powerful for less money.
| jimnotgym wrote:
| Then the ventilators thing happened. "Don't give resources to
| medical firms that know how to build ventilators...give it to
| Dyson who will build it faster, better...unapproved and a
| complete failure
|
| https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/22/covid-
| lan...
| verytrivial wrote:
| And stitching up getting Dyson as one of only two brands of
| approved air ventilation in state schools. Grifter.
| [deleted]
| rootusrootus wrote:
| It's hit or miss. For a plug-in vacuum, there are others I
| would choose first. But for a cordless stick vacuum, nobody
| else is comparable.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| Their hair straighteners are also awesome - the only brand
| able to put a curl into my wife's hair.
| celticninja wrote:
| Hmmm, straighteners, put in a curl, sounds defective.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| No, it's called a 'straightener' but it's a generic tool
| for controlling the shape of hair - can straighten or
| curl - both are intended use-cases.
| blitzar wrote:
| Can hair curlers also straighten hair or is it a one way
| process?
| chrisseaton wrote:
| I think hair curlers are cylindrical, while straighteners
| are flat. You can curl with a flat surface by heating up
| and then curling around the whole thing. But with a
| curler there's nothing flat to shape against!
| blitzar wrote:
| > But for a cordless stick vacuum, nobody else is
| comparable.
|
| I own one; if it is better than the rest then the whole
| genre of stick vacuum cleaners should be taken out back and
| shot.
|
| Core function (sucking things up from my carpet and
| disposing of the content): charitably I would say it is
| poor for the half a room that the battery charge lasts for.
| Build quality: terrible cheap brittle cheap shattering
| cheap plastic. Price: extremely expensive, 2x anything
| else.
|
| I have had some shitty appliances over the years, but those
| tend to at least be so cheap that the only guilt you feel
| throwing them in the bin is that you are destroying the
| planet and not your finances.
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| Here are the subtitles from the video, if you don't want to watch
| a video: https://pastebin.com/zwapbcy0
| tigerlily wrote:
| Well, the worst product I own is one of his bagless vacuum
| cleaners. The crummy look and feel, the unbelievably loud and
| high-pitched whine and the accompanying tinnitus-inducing higher
| order acoustic harmonics, and just the overall plasticky
| shittiness of it after about an hour of dragging it around is
| simply vomit-inducing.
|
| My pet hate is the 100x added friction between the retractable
| bristles and my plush carpet. It's costing me extra in time and
| energy to push this thing around.
|
| My next vacuum cleaner will instead be a janitor-grade Nilfisk.
| [deleted]
| mas-ev wrote:
| I love my Dyson SV10. Bought it 3 years ago and it's still
| working like a champ. I don't use it to vacuum a whole room but
| more for rugs or clean up jobs. I've got a Roomba S9+ for whole
| floor jobs. Swiffer wet jet for mopping/dust/hard floor.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| When he says printers are the worst designed things, would be
| great to see a Dyson-engineered printer that was solid and
| reliable. Shame there probably isn't the market for them anymore.
| estsauver wrote:
| Brother printers are consistently reliable and high quality,
| particularly the laser jet ones. I highly recommend getting one
| that doesn't have a scanner also, they just do one thing,
| really really well.
| Jolter wrote:
| I've been using a Canon MFP 4270 since 2008 and it's been
| consistently reliable and great.
|
| The only issue is Windows no longer recognizes it by default,
| so you have to manually install drivers off their website.
| And of course, Windows Update regularly breaks the install so
| I have to reinstall them. I don't blame Canon for that
| though.
|
| Getting new toner cartridges has been no problem as of yet,
| but I suspect the market is drying up by now because there
| were mostly off-brand ones available last time I had to get
| one.
| rcdemski wrote:
| I second this. I bought a brother multifunction laser printer
| several years ago and it consistently works without fail,
| works with built in drivers on Windows and Mac so there's no
| funky packages installed, and their toner lasts forever.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| I've got a higher-end Brother laser printer with no other
| functions integrated and it still frequently gets confused.
| Just doesn't feel robust or solid.
| aaronax wrote:
| Eh, the multifunction one I bought a year ago told me the
| toner was out and wouldn't print until I reset the counter
| using some obscure menu process. I have printed hundreds of
| pages since then, so they apparently are into scamming just
| like the rest.
| verytrivial wrote:
| How nice of him. I'd rather he paid his tax though.
| AussieWog93 wrote:
| So many angry people here using any excuse they can to shit-talk
| this guy. It's almost like I'm on Reddit and someone has made the
| mistaking of expressing a shred of admiration for Elon Musk.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| Yeah, had no idea there was this much bitterness and hatred for
| Dyson of all people!
| reedf1 wrote:
| Maybe he should explain his Brexit position? As far as I know
| this man is not an expert in anything but shirking expensive
| gimmicky fans and being a huge hypocrite, why he should be
| considered a authority in design I don't know.
|
| I've ways wondered what clout James Dyson gets for being confused
| with Freeman Dyson, an actual genius.
| blamazon wrote:
| Also, Dyson products feel incredibly cheap in the hand to me
| for the price paid. You can just feel how many cycles of cost
| reduction each one went through.
|
| Expensive products are one thing, but products that are
| upmarketed primarily because a big name wants more money, rub
| me the wrong way. It shows a disdain for your customer.
|
| I feel holding him up as some guru perpetuates this annoyance.
| vladharbuz wrote:
| I find it repulsive that his first recommendation to "inventors"
| is to file for a patent. Really, the most valuable piece of
| advice you have is "make sure you secure legal protection in case
| other people rip you off"? By all means, that's probably a thing
| you have to think about at some point, but surely there is more
| important advice for creatives than "lawyer up".
| blamazon wrote:
| To quote Dyson from the same video:
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| > "An expert thinks he knows it all but he's also rather
| inhibited by his experience, his knowledge. He finds it
| difficult to steer off the well-known path."
|
| One of Dyson's well-known paths might be wielding patent laws
| against competitors.
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