[HN Gopher] NeXTSpirit, high-res NeXTSTEP Icons for macOS
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NeXTSpirit, high-res NeXTSTEP Icons for macOS
Author : galgot
Score : 98 points
Date : 2021-12-13 19:01 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| joeman1000 wrote:
| Notice the Easter egg in the 'black terminal' icon... the abyss
| stares back at you.
| Xavdidtheshadow wrote:
| Ah, these are "high-res" icons; this isn't a link about anyone
| being hired.
| galgot wrote:
| :D Corrected
| yllan wrote:
| I love it! These are so good!
| makecheck wrote:
| This is what I wish we were doing with Retina displays and such:
| making truly nice artwork instead of whatever single-colored
| squares and circles pass for icons these days. :/
|
| Yes, it takes tremendously more work and is difficult to get
| right on a variety of screen sizes but there are also _multi-
| billion-dollar companies_ that are in charge of this and I think
| it's time they hired some more artists.
| timeon wrote:
| Most of preinstalled app on macOS are still like that.
| chongli wrote:
| Photorealistic icons [1] are much harder to parse, visually,
| than very simple ones [2]. In general, graphical UIs have
| gotten far more visually noisy in the past few decades. This
| has made computers much harder and more fatiguing to use. So
| often we seem to have "UX" designers changing things for the
| sake of change rather than undertaking the legitimately hard
| effort (UI studies) of trying to determine what will make the
| interface easier to use.
|
| [1]
| https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cTU5hVb22k0/R6u0lS9EFuI/AAAAAAAAB...
|
| [2] http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-
| content/uploads/2011/04/Susan_Ka...
| anthk wrote:
| Please, have a look on Haiku OS' icons.
| gattilorenz wrote:
| They are not photorealistic? But also not necessarily very
| good icons, to me (not quite representative, at least in
| some cases), so I'm not sure what point you're trying to
| make...
|
| https://github.com/darealshinji/haiku-
| icons/blob/master/png/...
|
| https://github.com/darealshinji/haiku-
| icons/blob/master/png/...
|
| https://github.com/darealshinji/haiku-
| icons/blob/master/png/...
| EGreg wrote:
| You are showing consumer electronics in the first one, and
| attempting to argue that this is how icons on the MacOS and
| iOS looked during skeumorphism.
|
| The whole trend to do away with Skeumorphism led to things
| like Google's Chrome browser having an empty white area where
| you apparently have to know you should tap to type the URL.
| It is still there on iOS.
|
| Because showing browser chrome as slightly 3D is apparently
| "too skeumorphic" and distracting -- better not to know where
| the website begins and ends lol
| webwielder2 wrote:
| macOS and iOS for one are far more consistent and un-busy
| than they were from 2000--2014 or so. Apple had poor visual
| design discipline and deployed multiple styles across their
| apps and OS, many of them garish and cluttered. Also, you
| replied to a post yearning for skeuomorphic icons and
| bemoaning the clean shapes of today, which contradicts your
| point 2.
| EGreg wrote:
| So you LIKE Skeumorphism, you say? SHOCKING. Many people do,
| like Steve Jobs did:
|
| https://magarshak.com/blog/?p=234
| itomato wrote:
| In that case, I have to share this icon set I made ca. 2001 based
| on Keith Ohlfs' frankly brilliant work:
|
| https://interfacelift.com/icons/artist/32/itomato/index1.htm...
| mattl wrote:
| It's a shame you can't easily change the icons for dock icons
| without disabling SIP on modern Mac OS X.
| kingnight wrote:
| Not sure if that's totally true. I've changed a bunch of icons
| w/o disabling SIP and I'm on the latest OS.
| SamuelAdams wrote:
| I think he's talking about Apple owned applications. You can
| change the icon for any user installed program ( chrome,
| vsCode, iTerm) but cannot for things like Safari, Finder and
| Mail. Unless you disable SIP
| mattl wrote:
| Yeah, I can't change the icon for Finder to be the NeXT
| logo without disabling SIP. Kinda lame. Should be able to
| make an alias to it and change the icon on that at least.
| tambourine_man wrote:
| I'm probably in the minority that always hated the NeXT
| aesthetics. I was very worried when Apple bought them and was
| rooting for BeOS at the time. Thankfully they eventually went on
| very different direction with Aqua.
|
| The HighRes versions on this site, however, are exquisite
| CyberRabbi wrote:
| If they bought Be they could not have bought NeXT since Gassee
| and Jobs were mortal enemies.
| tambourine_man wrote:
| Sure, it was undoubtably a much better choice all in all.
| Even Gassee would admit it himself.
|
| He's been pretty kind on Steve, on written word at least,
| over the last couple of decades.
| peatmoss wrote:
| Technologically speaking, I feel that OS X was a better choice
| (a more robust and developed platform). Qualitatively speaking,
| I loved everything about using BeOS--how snappy it was and the
| way applications felt like they could be thin extensions to the
| filesystem.
|
| However, as someone whose youth involved waaaay too many hours
| tweaking files called .fvwmrc, I knew that looks are important,
| but skin deep. Hard to say which aesthetic I preferred. BeOS's
| stock blue background, golden yellow tabs, and simple icons
| always made me feel "happy" even if they didn't feel as staid
| and sophisticated as NeXT.
| tambourine_man wrote:
| Yeah, NeXT was way more mature. Based on BSD, after all, what
| else can you say. And the GUI dev tools were second to none.
|
| But to the end user, the look and feel of BeOS hasn't been
| matched still.
| MDWolinski wrote:
| Now if only someone could get the swirling black hole for a trash
| can replacement.
| galgot wrote:
| Given it's a NeXTStep day today :) Part 1:
| http://galgot.free.fr/wordpress/?p=1380 Part 2:
| http://galgot.free.fr/wordpress/?p=1410
| blackhaz wrote:
| Absolutely amazing. Will this ever be part of an Xfce theme?
| Can't wait to use this on my FreeBSD.
| mattl wrote:
| These are so cool. Thank you!
| occoder wrote:
| > Given it's a NeXTStep day today :)
|
| You noticed that too? I wonder what karmic factors are in play
| here.
| lproven wrote:
| I have been wondering if it's in any way related to me
| mentioning GNUstep and Etoile in the Register recently...
|
| https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/26/linux_software_instal.
| ..
|
| -\\_(tsu)_/-
| meepmorp wrote:
| I haven't seen a .sit file in the wild for a long time, nice.
| And thank you.
| pkaye wrote:
| I never liked those folder icons. They are shown in a isometric
| view while most others are orthographic view.
| gjvc wrote:
| why have desktop interfaces become flatter while graphics
| processors have become faster ?
| inDigiNeous wrote:
| Well, implementing basic UI functionality even is hard enough
| with all the changing environments, screen sizes, rotations,
| touch interfaces and what have you. Making it as simple as
| possible makes it possible to focus in making those work in a
| more functional and usable manner.
|
| While it is true that CPU and GPU powers have increased, also
| the ways we use our machines have changed, people might have
| wildly different environments that the same UI needs to work on
| these days.
|
| Scalable UI alone can become a nightmare if you have anything
| more complex going on. Even the big players have a hard time
| figuring out proper usability, like look at Apple or Microsoft
| constantly making a hurdle to iterate on their designs, making
| mistakes along different releases.
|
| Building usable UI is freaking hard and requires a lot of user
| feedback, iteration and focusing on details that you don't know
| before starting to build the product. Changing even one thing
| can lead to another thing breakin, and so on..
| bitigchi wrote:
| Now if only someone did HQ Platinum style icons...
| galgot wrote:
| check :https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29545340
| tssva wrote:
| Noticed there is a "Better with Firefox or Safari" message on the
| site. I'm a little saddened to see this just as I would be to see
| a "Better with Chrome" or the old "Better with Internet
| Explorer".
| pmarreck wrote:
| Is there a NeXT Linux theme?
|
| EDIT: 5 mins later I found this submission to the homepage
| https://github.com/trunkmaster/nextspace
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