[HN Gopher] Decapitation in Rats: Latency to Unconsciousness and...
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       Decapitation in Rats: Latency to Unconsciousness and the 'Wave of
       Death' (2011)
        
       Author : matonias
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2021-12-11 21:54 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | bob667 wrote:
       | This is evil
        
       | aliswe wrote:
       | didnt read the article, but it reminded me that a person
       | mentioned in the book surveillance and punishment by foucault
       | (iirc), was going to be decapitated and promised to keep blinking
       | his eyes - on his severed head - as long as he could.
       | 
       | the author didnt disclose the results though!
        
       | ggm wrote:
       | I believe some things about cellular and neural activity are
       | about bi-stable states of being. You expend energy holding state
       | A and can be in state B by changing expenditure of energy.
       | 
       | If you disrupt neural and oxygenated blood flow, there would be
       | an initial pressure and energy drop. But, clearly most cells get
       | a simultaneous uh-oh kick. If it took about 60 seconds for them
       | to hold back the change from intra cellular holdings and then
       | flip state, I would not be surprised.
       | 
       | Muscle meat takes longer to shed its lactic acid burden. That's
       | what meat hanging is about. I'm told you can see muscle twitches
       | in hung carcases for some time.
       | 
       | Van Jacobson's work on TCP included the network effect of buffer
       | and delay causing window synchronisation. You would think a brain
       | might also be forced into a co-aligned state by a single massive
       | all encompassing trauma like loss of oxygenated blood in one
       | stroke (sorry)
        
         | 0134340 wrote:
         | You just awakened me that our nerves, and body in general, work
         | more like a network than I cared to analyze. What other kinds
         | of similarities can we gleam from this analog? Have those who
         | work on digital networks made any useful discoveries from how
         | the body and brain network? I vaguely recall a few things in
         | which digital communication has learned a bit from animal
         | communications and language itself but can't recall exact
         | sources; brain like a sponge, it leaves as easily as it soaks
         | up.
        
           | ggm wrote:
           | I don't think the body runs BGP. But I am pretty sure it has
           | bandwidth/delay product problems.
        
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