[HN Gopher] Tesla Full Self Driving Beta Causes a Crash
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Tesla Full Self Driving Beta Causes a Crash
Author : camjohnson26
Score : 25 points
Date : 2021-12-10 21:40 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (twitter.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (twitter.com)
| SQueeeeeL wrote:
| My amateur interpretation of this is that the vision algorithm
| briefly confused the yellow of the headlights of the oncoming car
| as the double yellow line in the road, which caused it to believe
| it was seriously out of lane. After verring, the algorithm
| reoriented, and realized an impact was imminent and diverted off
| the road.
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| I think what's interesting about this example is that in this
| case, an alert human driver would not be confused in this way. It
| shows issues with the particular machine learning approach to
| automated driving.
| jarolinvargas wrote:
| The driver intervened and lost control. It looks like Autopilot
| was going all in on that incoming vehicle.
| rightiousrob wrote:
| I don't think that a root cause analysis like this is good for
| anything else than improving the algorithm.
|
| It's the same as with face detection. The algorithms are better
| far superior to humans, but they fail at occasions where a
| human would not even think twice
| rasz wrote:
| >vision algorithm briefly confused the yellow of the headlights
| of the oncoming car as the double yellow line
|
| not the lights, but the vertical lens flares captured by single
| front facing center mounted camera cluster - afaik Tesla still
| has no stereo vision.
|
| >the algorithm reoriented
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| more like driver jerked to the right while having a heart
| attack and seeing itself going into a full frontal collision
| thanks to move fast and break things mentality
| [deleted]
| zardo wrote:
| If you have to be at the ready to take over from the car trying
| to kill you at all times, wouldn't you rather just drive?
| tshaddox wrote:
| That depends on the probability (say, per mile) that you'll
| need to take over.
| kelnos wrote:
| Can we change this to link to the original video, at
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VhrG-7SBZg ?
|
| Video description contains details about what happened, which
| might not be clear from the video snippet. FSD swerved into
| oncoming traffic, and the driver manually pulled back to the
| correct lane, but lost control and went off the road.
| rvz wrote:
| Oh dear. FSD (Fools Self Driving) Beta once again causing havoc
| and putting the life of this driver at risk and deciding to hit
| another car after the driver regaining control of the vehicle
| very quickly and going off road, especially in the most dangerous
| time to drive, which is at night.
|
| Had the driver not kept their eyes on the road or was sleeping in
| the car, this system would have crashed into that incoming
| vehicle. This video just proves that night-vision is non-existent
| in this 'safety-critical' system.
|
| Outrageous.
| cblconfederate wrote:
| Thankfully we have no teslas here yet, but i gotta watch out when
| they arrive. Is it possible to tell if a tesla has self-diving?
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