[HN Gopher] Obesity Is Contagious (2007)
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Obesity Is Contagious (2007)
Author : ctoth
Score : 23 points
Date : 2021-12-07 19:51 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| pknomad wrote:
| Speaking as someone who was born overseas in Asia, grew up in
| Northeast and went to a university in the deep south (Atlanta),
| this part does not surprise me:
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| > "What we see here is that one person's obesity can influence
| numerous others to whom he or she is connected both directly and
| indirectly
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| I found that obesity becomes normalized once it reaches certain
| threshold in the population. "Everyone that I know is obese so
| this is ok."
| mensetmanusman wrote:
| Humans are memetic in every sphere of life. If half the country
| is suffering from Obesity, I see no future where that gets below
| 10% without some no-effort miracle pill breakthrough.
|
| If anyone has raised kids, you know how hard it is to get them to
| eat healthy when so many manufactured foods tastes 10x better.
| xupybd wrote:
| There are zero low effort convenience foods. I have options
| everywhere for high calorie low nutrition foods. If I want
| something nutritious and tasty I have to cook it my self. As we
| get busier with work and entertainment we are going to reach
| more and more for the easy option.
| BizarroLand wrote:
| There may also be an issue with Palmitic Acid content in
| foods that hopefully can be addressed. If I remember
| correctly they increase inflammation, cause insulin
| resistance in all major insulin target organs (skeletal
| muscle, liver, endothelial cells) and have emerged as a major
| link between obesity, the development of the metabolic
| syndrome, and atherosclerotic vascular disease.
|
| in certain quantities they disrupt the satiation mechanism,
| and a high intake of them could be one on the main causes of
| western obesity.
|
| There is also a possibility that there is an obesity virus
| that works synergistically with elevated free fatty acids
| (FFAs) like Palmitic Acid that could be the culprit.
|
| Either way it goes, there is a good chance that obesity is
| not solely the fault of the person suffering it and that
| there may be a medical or diet based solution that can
| resolve it discovered in the near future.
| jackyinger wrote:
| How about fruits & nuts? Both are quick and easy to eat, I
| never feel compelled to gorge myself on em (unlike chips),
| and full of good stuff.
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| Also, I eat a lot of rice and lentils and veggies, and it is
| very easy to make. In 30 minutes of work (excluding boil
| time) I can make enough to feed myself one meal of this a day
| for a week.
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| I think people have a mental block around this. I don't blame
| em, I encounter it myself, start eating out a bunch, start
| feeling crummy, then realize I gotta eat something healthy.
| Then I cook some good veggies filled food and life is good
| again.
|
| Another aspect is wide ignorance of natural flavorful things.
| Fresh garlic, fresh ginger. Spices: cardamom, cumin,
| coriander, pepper powders, etc.
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| People can do this, it just takes investing a little effort
| to get started and maintain it.
| Remnant44 wrote:
| Nutrition makes me think of Tolstoy's famous quote in
| reverse: every bad diet is the same, while every good diet
| is unique.
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| By that I mean that I have to be very careful with fruit
| and nuts - having them around the house means that I can
| mindlessly eat at least an entire extra meal worth calories
| a day, a handful at a time.
|
| For me beans, lentils, and "veggies" more broadly are very
| helpful with appetite control though, I agree.. and are
| pretty easy to make unless you're on the go all the time.
| 988747 wrote:
| Except when you eat fruits you eat a lot of fiber, which
| makes you less hungry. I can't see how you could get fat
| on fruits.
| abrowne wrote:
| Agreed, excepting grapes, as long as you are eating fruit
| itself, not fruit juice, pulp, puree or something else
| made from fruit.
| 1cvmask wrote:
| You have to travel abroad to eat well cheaply. Where a tomato
| tastes like tomato, and is shockingly inexpensive.
| 1cvmask wrote:
| We should have more data on their 2007 thesis now that visual
| social media is all pervasive with FB, Tik Tok and Instagram.
| aeternum wrote:
| It's very illogical that we as a society spent and are still
| spending so much to stop covid yet we spend little to nothing
| fighting obesity.
|
| Banning soft-drinks entirely would have less of an economic
| impact than shelter-in-place and statistically would save more
| lives over the long term.
|
| Solving or reducing obesity will also greatly decrease the amount
| of death caused by diseases like covid. It's crazy how okay we
| are with death/disease when it ramps up slowly instead of
| acutely.
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