[HN Gopher] Open-Source Psychometrics Project
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       Open-Source Psychometrics Project
        
       Author : Fr0styMatt88
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2021-12-05 11:37 UTC (2 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (openpsychometrics.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (openpsychometrics.org)
        
       | ziggus wrote:
       | Nope.
       | 
       | Psychometrics is one step away from horoscopes and E-meter
       | readings.
       | 
       | Back to the 19th century where you belong!
        
         | willeh wrote:
         | Except it isn't. There is clear evidence for efficacy of
         | various psychometrical inventories in clinical settings. There
         | is statistical evidence for the validity and reliability of the
         | instruments themselves. Certainly there are limitations for
         | what things you can use this type of methodology especially in
         | cases where social desirability plays a large role.
        
           | KaiserPro wrote:
           | [citation needed]
           | 
           | Psychological Testing, yes. Psychometric, no. For example
           | screening for autism is effectively a Psychological test
           | (https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/screening.html) However
           | its still easy to abuse/confuse/project into wrong diagnosis.
           | In autisim you don't really get a number to determine to tell
           | you that you are 55% autistic.
           | 
           | In some cases, "psychometric" tests used to determine
           | specific issues work in clinical settings. When executed by a
           | trained person, in a way that is not obvious to the patient.
           | However even then, its not actually clear cut. Its very
           | difficult to put a metric on something that inherently
           | requires a subjective judgment.
           | 
           | They can be used in the emergency room to asses patients for
           | self harm risks. However they are only really a stepping
           | stone to more indepth testing.
           | 
           | Psychometric tests as used outside of clinical settings are
           | deeply flawed, easily manipulated by both candidate and
           | setter. They are a brilliant way to discriminate against any
           | type of person you don't like.
        
             | HPsquared wrote:
             | It depends on your definition of "works". When averaged and
             | aggregated, they show repeatable results and correlations
             | looking at a population level (don't they?)
             | 
             | I agree they are probably too "noisy" to be of much use in
             | a clinical setting to draw definitive conclusions about an
             | individual (other than probabilistic risk estimation type
             | things)
        
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         | voldacar wrote:
         | psychometrics is basically the only area of psychology that
         | actually replicates well
        
           | kekebo wrote:
           | Would you have a decent source on that?
        
             | derbOac wrote:
             | The best source I know of is this:
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             | https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0956797619831
             | 6...
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             | Soto CJ. How Replicable Are Links Between Personality
             | Traits and Consequential Life Outcomes? The Life Outcomes
             | of Personality Replication Project. Psychological Science.
             | 2019;30(5):711-727. doi:10.1177/0956797619831612
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             | Not exactly the same, and I wouldn't say exactly what the
             | OP said but yes, it suggests these kinds of things at least
             | replicate fairly well.
             | 
             | FWIW, I'm very familiar with this open-source psychometrics
             | project website (I think I used data from it once) and it's
             | sort of a mish-mash of pop-fun-entertainment fluff and
             | legitimate scientific stuff.
        
       | slig wrote:
       | I couldn't find on the website the "source" (i.e, tem questions,
       | their scores and the what the scores means).
        
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