[HN Gopher] Twitter's heads of engineering and design will leave...
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Twitter's heads of engineering and design will leave in a company
shake-up
Author : fortran77
Score : 56 points
Date : 2021-12-05 19:57 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| riffic wrote:
| there's a perfectly suitable alternative to Twitter in the
| interoperable open web. Folks should be making demands to
| policymakers to push publicly funded content into publicly run
| infrastructure.
|
| Also, some people are just blind to the faults and complaints
| people using Twitter have. I would invite people come check out
| /r/Twitter on reddit for a rough idea what kind of sentiment
| people have with the service.
| buzzert wrote:
| "Publicly funded" Twitter? No thanks. I don't want my tax money
| going to a Skinner box.
| riffic wrote:
| fine, enjoy your Twitter login-walls just to view wildfire
| notifications (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28281472,
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.
| ..).
|
| As a content consumer I don't want a login to a state-funded
| system, but I want state-funded content to be pushed into a
| standard/interoperable ecosystem.
|
| This ecosystem exists today btw. We don't need to wait for
| some bs ponzi web3 crypto savior to develop their form of
| nonsense.
|
| We already have everything in place today except for
| political will.
| aaomidi wrote:
| Alternatively, a decentralized and anarchist based social
| media without the states tendrils :)
|
| You know, like mastodon. Or literally anything else that
| develops. The State should just interface with anything and
| everything it can out there, rather than dictate a
| standard.
| riffic wrote:
| I'm implicitly referring to Mastodon.
|
| However, It _does not need to be Mastodon per se_. You
| could just shoehorn whatever open protocol that exists
| into your content management system and then push those
| updates out to the broader network. This is an existing
| system.
| pc86 wrote:
| State-funded content won't be pushed into a standard or
| interoperable ecosystem, it will either be published as it
| is today (into freely available private platforms with huge
| public usage) or into proprietary state systems built by
| the lowest bidder.
|
| Regardless of your feelings on "the interoperable open
| web," one of the above two options is objectively better
| than the other.
| didip wrote:
| Publicly funded Twitter would not exists. Why would any
| government facilitates more free speech? If it exists, it will
| be censored to oblivion.
| errcorrectcode wrote:
| Davis failed the "no *sshole" rule, and so, morale and retention
| suffered.
|
| If you want people to stay, don't be a dick and don't treat them
| like serfs.
| quaintdev wrote:
| I think this decade tide is going to turn against public global
| social networks. It's going to happen for all platforms as people
| see how detrimental social media really is and how under equipped
| these companies are in moderating their network for
| misinformation.
|
| It will not be end of social media but an exodus is going to
| happen from these existing networks to more privately deployed
| social networks where individuals from community moderate their
| own networks.
|
| The only barrier at the moment is we need at least a dozen open
| source self hosted solutions. These have to be very simple to
| host and moderate. Even a layman should be able to host and
| moderate.
| josh2600 wrote:
| This is a very hackernews take. The majority of people love
| Twitter as a product. A vocal minority are upset about
| disinformation, but most people think it's entertaining. We
| know this because it generates more clicks.
|
| A ministry of truth that could regulate is also fraught with
| peril for obvious reasons. It's a catch-22 if you value liberal
| philosophy.
| nicoburns wrote:
| Not convinced that people will move to segregated
| communities, but I don't think love of twitter is a majority.
| Not very many people I know use twitter.
| quaintdev wrote:
| Sure this very well could be my wishful thinking but let's
| wait a decade to prove me wrong :)
| sebow wrote:
| The shake has been arguably happening since 2016(i would say
| even sooner, but those efforts were more of hobbyists and
| explorers), where polarization was exacerbated by certain
| "political views" these social networks hold.However even
| though a lot of platforms have risen up and cool technologies
| (mastodon, IPFS-based hosting,etc) emerged, the core problem
| still somewhat exists: centralized power: whether it be the
| registrar, the hosting(which many people look into solving,
| because that's arguably the most critical point, and some have
| managed to somewhat de-couple from the monopolized 'cloud'),
| payment processors, ISPs,etc. All of these remain vastly
| centralized, and even though we haven't see extreme censorship
| in the west, the issue is a slippery slope, and that doesn't
| mean we won't see it in the future.(Unless politicians &
| philosophers try to push something akin of a "bill of rights"
| to the internet space, which would mean they are smart, so
| let's not hold our breaths on that)
|
| I'm more hyped, though i know progress is slow, in
| decentralized solutions in the hardware and networking
| space.Because the way i see it, even with something like
| bitcoin or any other decentralized solution that is mostly
| software-based, you're still at the mercy of couple
| entities.Again, process is slow in the HW space because most of
| the corporations/monopolies that are potentially abusive also
| hold most of manufacturing.
| errcorrectcode wrote:
| One observation: the longer companies go on without big wins and
| innovative leadership, the more stressful, messy, and generally
| horrible they become. The cool peeps left first, and then it
| tends to circle the drain into oblivion from there.
|
| Edit: Like "rats" fleeing a "sinking ship."
| diveanon wrote:
| I wonder if this was they same guy who decided to lock twitter
| behind an auth gate?
|
| Twitter has been a dumpster fire for years, and I would love to
| see it continue to burn for its contribution to electing Trump
| and giving him a platform for his bile until it proved
| politically convenient to silence him.
| brighton36 wrote:
| I truly don't see what happened in his administration that was
| unusually awful. (and I didn't vote for him) Given the constant
| hyperbole on matter, and now, in the aftermath, I think the
| antics of his detractors just look ... hysterical. Quite
| frankly, I think it's these antics that would be likely to see
| him re-elected. Food for thought.
| cblconfederate wrote:
| I was just saying yesterday about twitter's inane design. kind of
| glad he 's listening
| jacquesm wrote:
| I would wait for a bit to see some results before seeing this
| as an improvement.
| angelzen wrote:
| old.twitter.com, I hope.
| Mindwipe wrote:
| Well, let's hope this means an about face in Twitter's awful,
| awful, awful design direction.
|
| It is hard to see how any design team that thought it was a good
| idea to take a font commissioned for logo work, try and make it
| the body text font thoughout the site, and didn't even realise it
| didn't render or kern correctly in Windows is at all functional.
| fortran77 wrote:
| I see a lot of people living in a bubble in Silicon Valley
| thinking Microsoft and Windows are all but dead, and any phone
| other than an iPhone doesn't exist.
| dmitriid wrote:
| You mean, people who oversaw the roll-out of a new, horrible
| design with no testing and multiple breaking bugs that took over
| a year to fix (and many are still not fixed)?
|
| Good. Good.
| rkk3 wrote:
| > You mean, people who oversaw the roll-out of a new, horrible
| design with no testing and multiple breaking bugs that took
| over a year to fix (and many are still not fixed)?
|
| lol but wouldn't that all have rolled up to the new CEO since
| he was the CTO?
| neonate wrote:
| https://archive.md/es9gT
| johnchristopher wrote:
| It'd be cool if Twitter would allow users to publish long form
| content. Like a blog or at least longer than a tweet. So we don't
| get a hairy thread of 1/ 2/ 3/ 4/ tweets from people who share
| ideas that can't be summed up in 280 characters. With a special
| built-in hashtag, like #thread or #blog.
|
| If they keep the notification feature and the choice to only get
| notifications from such long form content, that'd be even cooler.
|
| Who am I kidding.
| pc86 wrote:
| What's the point of Twitter then? Isn't the character limit
| (whether 140, or 280, or whatever) part of what makes it "it"?
| errcorrectcode wrote:
| A microblogging service should cost micro crypto to post, and
| have a rate gently exponential with # of characters.
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