[HN Gopher] Stephen Wolfram - re:Clojure Keynote [video]
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Stephen Wolfram - re:Clojure Keynote [video]
Author : tosh
Score : 41 points
Date : 2021-12-05 11:23 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| awak3ning wrote:
| Wolfram's ego has always been the most off putting thing about
| him and his project. I was quite disappointed by the lack of
| Clojure relevant material in this Keynote and the unabashed
| emphasis on himself and his product.
| ppod wrote:
| I do understand the pushback on Wolfram's egotism and self-
| branding stuff, but he is absolutely wonderful to listen to and
| still comes across as a bit of a genius. I think history will be
| kind to him.
| znpy wrote:
| It starts interesting but it then kinda becomes a
| Mathematica/Wolfram marketing stunt ?
| spoonjim wrote:
| Every utterance from Wolfram is Mathematica marketing, even
| when he writes (amazing) eulogies for his late friends.
| queuebert wrote:
| I can't figure out if Wolfram is a brilliant scientist or a
| brilliant carney.
| pmarreck wrote:
| There's a certain type of "success trap" where one's first
| success is so significant that they don't ever need to figure
| out how to work with other people (or at least people who are
| peers and not underlings), and I think that's where the
| "carney" element comes from, where you're sort of drunk on
| your own hubris (regardless of actual merit)
| jonas21 wrote:
| Why not both?
| Keyframe wrote:
| Classic Wolfram then?
|
| edit: watching it.. SMP, Wolfram, computational language, he
| did all of that for past 40 years of course, he even managed to
| put himself in the same sentence as John McCarthy, they
| invented notebooks and then he's showcasing
| Mathematica/notebook.. I actually quite like Wolfram, but
| sometimes he's just a tad too much.
| copperx wrote:
| He forgot about Clojure after a minute or so. Never forget
| your audience.
| nightski wrote:
| Mathematica uses a functional language at its core. As a
| functional language enthusiast (including Clojure, although
| I haven't used it for anything professionally) I find
| discussions about any functional language interesting.
|
| In other words, I doubt the only thing Clojure folks care
| about is Clojure.
| Keyframe wrote:
| neat overview of mathematica, or wolfram desktop or
| whatever.. angle being language design.. but yeah, clojure
| disappeared as soon as the camera turned on.
| dmos62 wrote:
| I'm normally sensitive to people being full of themselves and
| I've no such sensation with Wolfram. I'm fascinated by what
| he has to say; I find his perspective on computational and
| programming languages, him being a specialist outsider,
| insightful and valuable.
| AlexCoventry wrote:
| Thanks, I came over here to see whether it goes anywhere
| worthwhile.
| [deleted]
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| I learned a lot watching the demo. Twice in the last three years
| I have signed up for Wolfram Desktop (about $30/month) and
| experimented with it. They even added some semantic web and
| SPARQL support. Watching his demo was good documentation.
|
| Both times I signed up for the service, I canceled after a few
| months because I didn't have a real use case.
|
| Ten years ago, I experimented with my own Clojure to Wolfram
| Language bindings https://github.com/mark-
| watson/clojure_wolfram_alpha
| shaftoe444 wrote:
| Wolfram is on from -2:15:40
| sokoloff wrote:
| +9:40:10 seems a useful timestamp reference to me if your
| YouTube client references from the start of video.
|
| At +10:06:00, he starts talking a bit about clojure. 26 minutes
| into his presentation at a clojure conference and he talks
| about clojure for well under 2 minutes, most of which was
| analyzing the text on the wikipedia page for clojure...
|
| At +10:16, he then very briefly demos a linkage from the
| clojure repl into the Wolfram Engine, which is arguably the
| only part that's specifically interesting to most conference
| watchers.
|
| If this were a keynote at a Wolfram conference, it would have
| been a better fit than as a keynote at a Clojure conference.
| vmsp wrote:
| I had never heard of Mathematica before.
|
| I'm pretty sure I'd never use it for anything but one thing that
| caught my eye is how easy it is to generate mock data. E.g.
| WordList
| spoonjim wrote:
| It's one of the best pieces of software in the world, with
| things like Microsoft Excel and Google Maps. It is run by an
| absolutely insufferable guy but he does a good job with it.
| ithinkso wrote:
| Can I ask you how old are you? Or who do you work?
|
| Most of people in tech do not use Mathematica but I would put a
| lot of chips on a bet that most heard of it. That's why I'm
| courious
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