[HN Gopher] Investigations show pathophysiological alterations f...
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       Investigations show pathophysiological alterations from Covid
       vaccines
        
       Author : curmudgeon22
       Score  : 5 points
       Date   : 2021-12-02 21:58 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nature.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nature.com)
        
       | ok_dad wrote:
       | > Similar changes had also been reported in COVID-19 patients,
       | suggesting that vaccination mimicked an infection
       | 
       | So you get the same from an infection of COVID, basically
       | 
       | > A total of 11 healthy adult volunteers... were enrolled in this
       | study
       | 
       | This can't be a good statistical power since there are 2 groups
       | here
       | 
       | > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-021-00329-3/figures/2
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       | they label their hba1c chart with mmol/L which seems to be the
       | incorrect units based on the next link. Also, all of the other
       | tests they did were well within parameter ranges the whole time,
       | or they were just slightly out of range and went back to normal
       | by the end of the 90 days
       | 
       | > https://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html
       | 
       | Says that normal levels are below 42 mmol/mol (which seems to be
       | the correct units for the chart, since mmol/L of 42 would
       | basically kill you, according to the black-background "meter"
       | chart shown on the above link)
       | 
       | > Because red blood cells in the human body survive for 8-12
       | weeks before renewal, measuring glycated haemoglobin (or HbA1c)
       | can be used to reflect average blood glucose levels over that
       | duration, providing a useful longer-term gauge of blood glucose
       | control.
       | 
       | They tested for 90 days, which is ~12 weeks, and at 90 days you
       | would be testing for the first few weeks after vaccination with
       | this test; I would expect to have them test longer than 90 days
       | to see what the values are for the rest of the 90 day window they
       | tested in
       | 
       | Bottom line: this study is not saying anything alarming, IMO; but
       | let's break out the anti-vaxx propoganda and have a fight (not
       | really, I don't want to fight, and I'm not replying to this
       | thread)
        
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