[HN Gopher] Orgdown - Using orgmode markup outside Emacs
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       Orgdown - Using orgmode markup outside Emacs
        
       Author : tconfrey
       Score  : 12 points
       Date   : 2021-12-02 17:37 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (karl-voit.at)
 (TXT) w3m dump (karl-voit.at)
        
       | jrm4 wrote:
       | I like this. Probably because a few years ago I switched to Emacs
       | for a year and loved doing outlines in Org-mode; but everything
       | else was cumbersome and I switched back to what use for most
       | everything else, zim-wiki.
       | 
       | Now I have a specific thing that I'd like to use that org-mode
       | outline flow for and, true story, right now it's looking like
       | it's not going to happen because I don't think I have the time or
       | patience to relearn Emacs; like I'm genuinely surprised at how
       | long it's taking me to get back with it. Very much an "exact
       | opposite of riding a bike." thing.
        
       | tconfrey wrote:
       | With the rise of privacy-first, plain text tools for PKM I think
       | this is an interesting project by Karl Voit. Seems like there's a
       | growing list of tools supporting org[1], including my own
       | BrainTool[2]
       | 
       | See also some further discussion here[3]
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://gitlab.com/publicvoit/orgdown/-/blob/master/doc/Tool...
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       | [2] https://braintoool.org
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       | [3]
       | https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-11-30-element.html#org-a...
        
         | 1MachineElf wrote:
         | * https://braintool.org
         | 
         | This looks great, btw.
         | 
         | I have been looking for an open-source replacement for Tabs
         | Outliner[0], which helps me effectively manage tabs when there
         | are hundreds, even over a thousand tabs open. There are
         | surprisingly few options that are as powerful. Tabs Fern[1] is
         | a close approximation, but it's tab trees aren't multi-level,
         | and it can only restore entire windows instead of single-tabs.
         | On Firefox, the most powerful tab manager I've found so far is
         | Session Sync[2]. It doesn't seem to scale as much as Tabs
         | Outliner and has a different mode of interaction, but I've been
         | happy with it thus far.
         | 
         | [0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-
         | outliner/eggk...
         | 
         | [1] https://cxw42.github.io/TabFern/
         | 
         | [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/session-
         | sync/
        
           | tconfrey wrote:
           | Thanks! I was a Tabs Outliner user myself and the BrainTool
           | Topic Manager is inspired by it. NB BT can import the JSON
           | exported by TO if you want to transfer your stuff.
        
       | maydup-nem wrote:
       | The author should have mentioned
       | https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html somewhere in the
       | first paragraph, because he's basically building to that. Also,
       | he says that there's no formal spec for OD1, which seems strange,
       | because that's exactly the problem porting Org-Mode: no formal
       | spec (yet). One would think that this is a step towards it or
       | what?
       | 
       | > Orgdown1 can be summed up with 43 specific features.
       | 
       | What are they? Couldn't find anything but the page with the
       | examples.
       | 
       | Maybe I missed it, but defining a standard involves actually
       | defining it at some point, no? Like have a pdf maybe? I think I
       | have seen more of the logo noise and the story behind it all and
       | why we need the standard and why this and why that /RATHER than
       | the actual standard/.
       | 
       | And well, the logo... I mean, WHY? It has a very specific meaning
       | already, you know? Like of all the unused unicode symbols, that
       | one, srsly?
       | 
       | > The preference for the level Orgdown1 name is:
       | 
       | > Orgdown1 ... if you have the room for the long form
       | 
       | > 1 ... if you know how to enter UTF-8 characters (see next
       | section)
       | 
       | > O|1 ... of you know how to enter the downward arrrow characters
       | 
       | > OD1 ... this is the easiest to type short form
       | 
       | Bruh, would you just make up your mind on one damn thing?
       | 
       | I commend the intent, but I the whole thing begs for a cleanup.
        
       | necovek wrote:
       | It's peculiar when a single person writes what they call a
       | "standard": standard is something accepted and agreed to by
       | multiple parties.
       | 
       | Writing a specification for previously only-defined-in-Emacs-code
       | Org formatting is definitely commendable, and hopefully results
       | in more standardisation of org-like apps.
        
         | tconfrey wrote:
         | Agreed. I don't quite understand "Orgdown1 < Orgdown2 < ... [?]
         | Org-mode" and how each is defined and verified. But as someone
         | who depends on transacting in org-mode formatted text outside
         | of emacs it seems like a good idea to at least note that they
         | are separate things.
        
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