[HN Gopher] Ask HN: How does one do it all?
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Ask HN: How does one do it all?
Or to elaborate: how does one make time for it all? I understand
that this might sound trite and a 'normal' existential crisis in a
cliched way but I am genuinely interested in figuring out how
people go about deciding what to do with their time? Is it all
about one's job or family? How does one balance the pleasures and
stimulation of good art in the way of books, movies, tv, music,
games, etc alongside more rigorous dives into subjects that might
interest one (and potentially not be related much or altogether to
one's profession fortunately/unfortunately) such as psychology,
philosophy, anthropology, literary theory, etc as well as producing
one's own 'art' whatever that might be? Add to this concerns such
as volunteering, a social life, taking care of one's physical and
mental well being, fulfilling obligations to those around us,
paying at least some attention to world events, etc. As a person
with eclectic tastes/interests, limited time to pursue them and a
finite (atleast last time I checked) lifespan, I have found it
increasingly difficult to figure out how to spend my time and seem
to end up with an overall feeling of being overwhelmed and settling
for the easiest activity at the time. Is it just a question of time
management and prioritization? As a person who is moving from the
'conventional studies' portion of their life to that portion which
consists more of 'work' and when people increasingly enter into
more serious relationships and make important life decisions such
as marriage,children,etc, and is also increasingly aware of the
paucity of time and what one can possibly do with it, I wanted to
hear people's take on how they manage it all or have learned to
manage it over time. I understand that making the most of one's
life is a relatively common concern and that answers to this
question can be wide ranging and often verge on the abstract but I
am open to all manner of answers ranging from the practical to the
philosophical. Keeping in mind the typical audience on here, it
seemed like a question worth asking.
Author : akzfowl
Score : 17 points
Date : 2021-11-30 21:08 UTC (1 hours ago)
| mlac wrote:
| They don't. If they do, they shouldn't and need to relax some
| constraints.
|
| I'll offer four books.
|
| -> "Getting things done" -> Dry as hell, but useful for basic
| organization and "adulting".
|
| -> "Essentialism" and "Make Time" -> prioritization
|
| -> "Four Thousand Weeks" -> perspective
|
| Life is trade-offs. The thing you are doing at this very moment
| (reading this comment) has been prioritized over everything else
| in your life. Analyzing everything this way can be exhausting and
| can lead you to beat yourself up, but it's good to keep in mind
| at a high level.
|
| When I say "they don't" do it all, I mean anyone you see doing
| anything is, by definition, not doing everything. They are doing
| that one thing. A few people can do a lot of different things in
| a day and keep a lot of plates spinning, but there is a natural
| breadth vs. depth trade off.
|
| I would encourage you to not try to do it all, but explicitly
| make trade offs for your time (e.g. hiring a house cleaner,
| ordering in from restaurants, getting a nanny if you and your
| spouse both want to work). Whatever your comfort is for that sort
| of thing, there's nothing to be ashamed of for bringing in help
| to keep life moving. The best people have teams helping them get
| things done. Whatever your pain point is, throw resources at it.
| These will change over time.
|
| Time != Energy. There are baseline skills (diet, exercise, sleep)
| that are force multipliers and have a positive ROI on Energy.
| There are things that have a highly negative ROI. Finding both
| for you is useful.
|
| You will never "get there", even if everything is perfect. Change
| is constant, and living is staying current and adapting with the
| change.
|
| As Willie Nelson said, "All we have is right now". That took me a
| long time to get.
|
| As Bill Gates said, "We underestimate what we can accomplish in a
| year and overestimate what we can accomplish in a day."
|
| ""You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky" -
| Michael Scott
|
| And Warren Buffet says to write down your top 25 priorities, and
| absolutely do everything you can to avoid the bottom 20, focusing
| only on the top 5.
| truxten wrote:
| I struggled with this too, and the conclusion I've more or less
| come to is that you can't. In the end, you have to figure out
| what is worth prioritizing and what you are okay with letting
| fall to wayside. The one practical thing that I've found to be
| useful is to try to think in terms of what I _don 't_ want to
| spend my time doing - and then actively trying to avoid doing
| those things - rather than trying to think of all the things that
| I want to do.
| mikewave wrote:
| > how does one make time for it all?
|
| You truly don't - it's impossible. It's like the CAP theorem:
| there are fundamental limits that all stem fundamentally from a
| lack of time. You have to sleep, eat, wash, exercise, do your
| chores, etc - these are fixed costs on your time. If you have
| children - and I recommend it, it's amazing - those fixed costs
| increase significantly.
|
| If what you want is to continue to have a really good career -
| well, you'll either have to find a way to keep it within work
| hours, or you will have to sacrifice something else. Some people
| sacrifice exercise, sleep, hygiene, etc. but this always has its
| own costs in return. Some people sacrifice all of their free
| time, which instead has mental health impacts.
|
| Instead, you have to...
|
| - Become as efficient as possible at all of the above. Cut the
| corners that can be cut while still fulfilling the requirements.
| - Accept that you will not be able to perform the same as someone
| who is dedicating every moment of their lives to do something.
| You have to accept the benefits you get from your other pursuits
| in life as being worth the sacrifice of not getting extreme
| career advancement, not getting every moment of leisure time you
| want, etc. - Know that you can still achieve your goals to a
| large extent as long as you are willing to have a long horizon
| (low time preference).
|
| > As a person with eclectic tastes/interests, limited time to
| pursue them and a finite (atleast last time I checked) lifespan,
| I have found it increasingly difficult to figure out how to spend
| my time and seem to end up with an overall feeling of being
| overwhelmed and settling for the easiest activity at the time. Is
| it just a question of time management and prioritization?
|
| 100%. For example, I love hiking and camping, and I would love to
| take a week away from my young family to explore the mountains,
| but ultimately doing so is somewhat selfish as it would lump all
| the work on my wife for that period of time. If I can find a way
| to enable her to have her own week of leisure, then maybe that
| can balance out; but more realistically I am going to be on a
| hiatus from week-long outings until the kids are older. This
| doesn't mean the occasional weekend can't happen, though!
|
| Planning in advance and ensuring unknowns are minimized for
| yourself and your partner is key to ensuring that you can still
| do what you want.
|
| I will leave you with this:
|
| I have no idea what the hell I was doing with all my free time
| before I had children. There must have been hours upon hours in
| the average day that I had absolutely nothing to show for other
| than consuming content or excess calories. Now, every moment is
| utilized; there's way less "downtime" but honestly I don't even
| want it - I just want to get to have "uptime" of my choosing, and
| it happens as long as I make it happen.
|
| I know parents who are overwhelmed and never get any free time,
| according to them, but when I watch how they live it is clear
| that this is happening mostly because of their own inefficiencies
| and the fact that they expect downtime to look like vegetating in
| front of the TV, where hours slip away, instead of going out and
| doing something like hiking / spending time with their family on
| an outing / etc. No wonder they feel like nothing is getting done
| and that their days are drudgery! "It's all I have energy for" is
| a poor excuse - the more you do, the easier it gets.
| PaulHoule wrote:
| If your life was a play it would have multiple acts.
|
| Every 7 years or so you will have some major upheaval in your
| routine, so you aren't stuck with the choices you make right now.
|
| For instance I went through a phase of playing video games
| heavily and now I've almost entirely quit. I had a time when I
| worked a lot on side projects, then I quit (except for work I've
| been doing on a committee.) Last year I started a series of art-
| related side projects and now my son and I laugh at Meta, Magic
| Leap and such because we make products that work with 3D glasses
| that get amazingly good image quality despite costing just 20
| cents a pair.
| codingdave wrote:
| So you used to do side projects, quit that, but you toss in a
| line at the end that sure sounds like you are fishing for
| interest in a new side project. Are you sure you've quit doing
| side projects?
| PaulHoule wrote:
| I think you read it wrong.
|
| I have three side projects right now that are like Mercury,
| Gemini and Apollo. The first one is reaching a point where it
| is "done" enough I can think about the other two. Then effort
| goes into the next two.
|
| I started the first of those projects a year ago without
| really understanding what I was getting into. The hiatus
| started circa 2013 or so and ended last year.
| 999900000999 wrote:
| First off, don't envy anyone. On the outside you see someone with
| a great career and a great relationship. Reality, they just got
| laid off, they've been separated for about 6 months.
|
| Be grateful for what you have, and don't compare yourself to
| anyone else. You don't know what they actually have
| mlac wrote:
| They may actually have a great career and a great relationship
| (with their spouse).
|
| But their relationship with their parents is bad. Or they are
| in debt. People typically show off what they optimize for. I'm
| not posting pictures on instagram of my figure skating...
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| MarcelOlsz wrote:
| There's only 24 hours in a day, so I try to kind of create a
| gradient of things important to me and try to weave one into the
| other. Each activity I do should somehow compliment something I
| already know, or fill in a need somewhere else, leading to a
| compounding effect. Example: I'm a pianist, so instead of picking
| up electronic music and getting lost in analog stuff, I'd pick up
| something like a clarinet, which works towards my goal of
| creating the sound I am after (helping me launch my album
| quicker), and doesn't require relearning multiple fields. This is
| the "density" factor of an activity I consider. Then I figure out
| where on the gradient between founder and career and hobby it
| falls on. The further the activity is towards hobby, and the less
| dense it is, the less time I will spend on it. The reason is at
| this point in my life founder/career trajectory is more important
| to me, to be able to afford the space and time to fully enter the
| hobby realm, at which point the hobbies are no longer hobbies,
| but become what I love doing, and cease to be either a career or
| a hobby.
|
| Right now I am doing:
|
| 1) Leetcode in the mornings. On my (founder -> career -> hobby)
| continuum, this falls firmly on career, as it doesn't help me as
| a founder (except tangentially), and I don't code for fun (not a
| hobby). I will spend only a little time on this every day,
| 30m-1hr.
|
| 2) Language study - I am deeply interested in language. I am also
| studying math.
|
| 3) Math study - relearning my highschool math so I can get into a
| good university (sort of a backup plan if my MVP's fail)
|
| 4) My MVP - since the leetcode, language, and math all sort of
| work into each other on a loose level, I consider these small
| tasks I have to accomplish daily but with minimal time dedicated
| to each, such that I am still making progress in them, but with
| the bulk of my progress on my MVP.
|
| When all of these wrap up, they will compliment each other very
| well. Once the MVP is launched, I plan to use that money to go
| back to school for math, where the Russian will help me. The MVP
| will also help me establish my skills in the public domain,
| helping me land a career, in which case the leetcode will also
| come through.
|
| When I am done wrapping up the founder/career portion of my life,
| I will drift further towards hobby, trying to replace one with
| the other (replace career with hobby, hobby becoming the main
| thing I do), and then these hobby activities will take up a
| larger portion of my day.
|
| I try to arrange all of my interests this way so I don't waste my
| own time on things that don't matter and don't help me. I focus
| on what fulfills me most, and place it last in the gradient, as a
| point to move towards.
| codingdave wrote:
| You won't have time for it all. And when it is all over, nobody
| wishes they had spent more time working. So find the balance - do
| the work you need to do. But then put it away and do the
| activities that will leave you on your deathbed (hopefully old)
| saying, "Yeah, that was a good life."
|
| If you keep that perspective when making all your choices...
| well, you'll still make mistakes - mistakes are part of youth.
| But they will be made with good intent and hopefully keep you
| growing and living in a good direction.
| kleer001 wrote:
| Mostly by cutting out the BS. There's a lot of contemporary
| nonsense floating around there hungry for our attention, a lot of
| super-normal stimulation. Stop letting it into your life.
| Psychedelics might help with that. Therapy might too. Get off the
| internet for fun, stop social media, stop playing video games,
| etc...
| breckenedge wrote:
| You can't do it all and that's a beautiful aspect of a mortal
| life. You continuously have to choose what's most important to
| you, what's fulfilling.
| koalakeeper wrote:
| 100000% seconding the recommendation for Four Thousand Weeks:
| Time Management for Mortals. You sound overwhelmed-just focus on
| what you need to do today. My litmus test: If you spent everyday
| like today, what would your life be like in a year? That way I
| make sure to not skimp on two big things:
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| *Health: exercise, eating well, sleep *Something that will expand
| my life over time: learning and satisfying a non work-related
| curiosity; doing something social 1-2x a week
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| Set limits on: *Things that annoy you and steal your time; say no
| to energy vampires, social media, etc *Occasionally I'll try to
| address an inefficiency (for me, it's meal prep), but make sure
| that it's not my main focus.
|
| No one does it all. It only looks that way because people only
| post their highlight reels on the internet, and no character on
| TV spends time realistically. Most of life is commuting and
| chores and errands, the unsexy stuff of maintenance. Since this
| can't be avoided, don't act like it's a waste of your life. It IS
| a lot of life.
| AnimalMuppet wrote:
| As others have said, you can't. And that's all right. You don't
| _need_ to have it all.
|
| You need to decide what _you_ need to have, not what everyone
| else _says_ you need to have. You need to go after that. (And
| then you need to learn to live without the things you "have" to
| have, because you may not be able to get even that much.)
| seanhunter wrote:
| You can do almost anything but you can't do everything. Your
| choice matters but it has to be your choice.
|
| Your post is certainly a question worth asking but primarily it's
| a question worth asking _yourself_. You 're basically asking
| about how to create a meaningful life, which is something that a
| person has to figure out for themselves given everyone's values
| are different.
|
| My recommendation would be read "Man's search for meaning" and
| then keep asking yourself questions like this while trying not to
| be too bogged down. As my motorcycle instructor told me in a
| completely different context, "Keep your head up and look where
| you want to go".
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