[HN Gopher] Proof-of-Stake and Stablecoins: A Blockchain Central...
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       Proof-of-Stake and Stablecoins: A Blockchain Centralization Dilemma
        
       Author : yasp
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2021-11-29 21:23 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | prohobo wrote:
       | Aren't stablecoins kind of pointless and dangerous?
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       | We all know that Tether is a huge scam, and it underpins like 75%
       | of Bitcoin transactions - meaning if it crashes it could take
       | Bitcoin with it.
       | 
       | Adding onto that, stablecoins only really make long-term sense as
       | havens for speculators and day traders. Do we really want to
       | weaponize crypto markets like some kind of hyper-stock market?
        
         | verdverm wrote:
         | A CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) backed by a money
         | market, and a hybrid public-private partnership between the
         | govt and thin banks would have the stable nature of a currency
         | while eliminating much of the inefficiencies in the current
         | TradFi and cryptos.
        
           | prohobo wrote:
           | > while eliminating much of the inefficiencies in the current
           | TradFi and cryptos.
           | 
           | I'm not sure what your understanding of a stablecoin is, but
           | I'm talking specifically about crypto stablecoins, not
           | digital currencies. As you allude to in the last part of the
           | quote, you're no longer talking about stablecoins.
        
         | 0x64 wrote:
         | Dai, MakerDAO's stablecoin, is over-collaterized through
         | various crypto assets and there's around $6.5b worth of it in
         | circulation right now.
        
       | iskander wrote:
       | >The digital blockchain, via proof-of-work, is thus connected to
       | real-world natural resources.
       | 
       | This, in essence, is why any further adoption of PoW chains is
       | deeply incompatible with climate change mitigation. I'm happy to
       | see crypto mature into some kind of open source / open protocol
       | financial system but it needs to happen strictly on proof-of-
       | stake chains (whatever the challenges to decentralization).
        
         | verdverm wrote:
         | Proof of Authority might be better than staking. There are some
         | interesting winner take all like properties in both systems.
         | One is easier to regulate for the broader good when things go
         | awry.
        
           | iskander wrote:
           | Interesting, hadn't heard of it before. What gets slashed in
           | PoA? Is there some kind of quantified reputation that you
           | lose through misbehavior?
        
         | anonporridge wrote:
         | Use of energy is not necessarily incompatible with climate
         | change mitigation. PoW uses electricity and is completely
         | agnostic to whether that electricity is generated by fossil
         | fuels or clean renewables/nuclear. Piddling about how
         | civilization chooses to use electricity as a solution to
         | climate change will be a never ending game of whack-a-mole. The
         | only solution is to address it at it's source, by internalizing
         | the negative externalizes of carbon pollution in the cost of
         | this energy use. Anything else is feel good bullshit.
         | 
         | Moreover, to the proponents of PoW, it is not a flaw to be
         | removed, but a necessary foundation that makes the protocol
         | incorruptible and eternally open and permissionless for anyone
         | to join as first class citizens, even late adopters. This
         | stands in stark contrast to PoS which gives an absurd level of
         | power and protocol control to early adopters that potentially
         | can't ever be diluted, and may even increase since PoS rewards
         | holders of coin with even more coin.
        
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