[HN Gopher] Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoo...
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Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I
did
Author : psychanarch
Score : 106 points
Date : 2021-11-25 12:01 UTC (1 days ago)
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| apeace wrote:
| It's unfortunate that this article is probably serving as a great
| ad for the scam cryptozoology school. I think the article
| would've been just as good if they'd left out the name of it.
| [deleted]
| winternett wrote:
| I'm very proud of my history of never clicking a Facebook ad in
| over 10 years... Most of them are really just shills for
| capturing targeting data to associate with my profile anyway.
|
| This also explains why Facebook shows me wildly random ads for
| Viagra alternatives, yoga pants, conservative news, and better
| kitty litter than my current brand... All things which have no
| relevance to me, yet quite often triggering my urge to click
| "Hide Ad", but that too in itself is also a marker that creates a
| record I'm sure... What a mental health nightmare it's all turned
| into.
|
| I log on a lot less to social media than I used to, and use
| AdBlock + UBlock everywhere ritually.
| petters wrote:
| I haven't used Facebook in years, but when I did the ads were
| fantastic. The only platform were the ads seemed like a net
| positive for me.
| dhosek wrote:
| I deleted facebook and twitter in January and it's been a
| measurable improvement in my quality of life. Before I did, I
| made a point of clicking _every_ ad for a while to f-ck the
| algorithm. It took only about a day of that for every ad to be
| personal injury lawyers.
| bcg361 wrote:
| You might be interested in ad nauseam, an extension that
| clicks on every add for you: https://adnauseam.io/
| treeman79 wrote:
| Life is better without Twitter.
|
| Grandparents had a fit over me cutting FB. Grandkid pictures
| are a serious matter.
| jollybean wrote:
| "explains why Facebook shows me wildly random ads for Viagra
| alternatives, yoga pants, conservative news, and better kitty
| litter than my current brand."
|
| Scroll to the bottom of CNN - it's all rubbish ads. That's just
| the long tail of attention-scamming, it's not FB.
| winternett wrote:
| On the back-end it's likely linked to FB data though... A
| whole lot of sites began to lag when facebooks DNS went
| offline earlier this year and that was quite telling. That
| data on us flows all the way across the net.
| jollybean wrote:
| Yes I agree, but that said, it's just noise.
|
| Also, FB learning algorithm is not some Orwellian disaster
| - the ads will get marginally better if you click them and
| that's it, I don't suggest there is any real harm there.
|
| Google, on the other hand, is much more powerful and they
| know much more about you and the results they chalk up
| (that you depend upon for life, work) are geared to this.
|
| Google doesn't have a 'Zuck' to pin it on, such is
| populism.
|
| And FYI the 'big culprit' is VISA. They sell your data to
| FB and that's a big chunk of how FB learns. But it's not in
| the headlines, no Congressional 'Whistle blowers' etc.,
| they fly under the radar.
| gundmc wrote:
| It's really a shame that this is the top comment, because the
| article itself tells a pretty interesting adventure and is not
| in the slightest about Facebook Ads beyond the title and
| introduction.
| geoduck14 wrote:
| >This also explains why Facebook shows me wildly random ads for
| Viagra alternatives, yoga pants, conservative news, and better
| kitty litter than my current brand... All things which have no
| relevance to me
|
| Well maybe if your cat practiced yoga, he wouldn't need better
| litter - or viagra.
|
| I'm still thinking how to associate a cat on viagra with
| conservative news... maybe something about Bill O'Riley.
| winternett wrote:
| Sometimes I make random facebook posts to my page with
| strategically placed keywords in them based on what I want to
| see more of though, like "baby squirrels" and it works
| without fail for about a month at a time...
|
| This is what it's all come to... hah.
| gnicholas wrote:
| I believe Bob Dole was a Viagra spokesperson.
| purplecats wrote:
| The purpose of all ads isn't for you to click them. By the time
| you have decided not to click it or engage further with it, it
| has already won.
| sushsjsuauahab wrote:
| Well, with regard to conservative news, there's about a 50%
| chance that you would be interested, not necessarily enough to
| click though
| catillac wrote:
| Significantly less given that they're on HN, but I suppose
| there's no way FB would know that this person posts on HN.
| sushsjsuauahab wrote:
| And thats why they just blanket spam ads to everyone :)
| [deleted]
| ma2rten wrote:
| Have you considered the possibility that facebook might just
| not be that good at targeting?
| reilly3000 wrote:
| Yes Facebook is more loose with targeting then it represents
| to its ad buyers, but also as buyers are notoriously bad at
| selecting clever targeting. There is a case of misaligned
| incentives. The more highly-targeted ad, the more likely it
| leads to a sale, yet for Facebook or really any ad seller
| they want to maximize the revenue of every impression, and
| broadly targeted (irrelevant) ads fill that demand quite
| nicely. Less filters = more potential revenue, even at the
| expense of their advertiser's ROI. It's a balance. It's also
| why if you are buying ads you never try the platform-provided
| tools, which claim to optimize for ROI but generally tend
| toward yield. Google's liberal suggestions of broad-match
| keywords are not to be trusted.
| winternett wrote:
| Facebook is probably hiring more human psychologists and
| marketing specialists than developers now. It explains why
| they aren't really innovating anything particularly new and
| useful in anything but their profit funnel.
|
| Many companies get stuck on pleasing investors more than
| users once they reach that stage of monopoly after they've
| gone public, and that's why regulation kills them once
| opportunistic manipulation is exposed.
|
| Unfortunately it takes a really bad/unfortunate consequence
| of their manipulation to occur before regulation properly
| steps in.
| kgeist wrote:
| >All things which have no relevance to me
|
| For the past 6 months, every single ad on Youtube (TV app) for
| me is about Indians singing something in Hindi... I wonder why
| that happens. I'm not Indian, I don't understand Hindi, and I'm
| not interested in Indian pop music. Yet Youtube thinks I'm a
| huge fan and I have no idea what to do about it.
| rolleiflex wrote:
| Have you by any chance sold any Android phones you used to
| own at one point? Google I think does associative linking
| based on phones. If your phone eventually found its way to
| India, Google might have started to think something similar.
| This happened to me personally, except I was both of the
| people in the exchange, that's how I know.
| nine_k wrote:
| I, on the contrary, clicked every relevant ad on facebook. Now
| they learned my preferences and show me mostly ads about
| vintage 8-bit computers and tracker music software and groups.
|
| And no ads about viagra or yoga pants.
|
| I'd say that FB ads generally can target much better than
| general web ads because they can track and profile you
| precisely, e.g. from your posts, comments, and other
| interactions. But at least you sign up for that when you agree
| with FB's EULA when creating an account. General web ads are
| worst: they try badly to track you to become more targeted, but
| can't get targeted enough to stop being annoyingly off the mark
| even if they wanted.
| maneesh wrote:
| I honestly enjoy FB ads much more than the average political
| content, covid posts, food pictures that I see on my
| timeline. I find such cool tech and software from the ads
| that target me.
| bryans wrote:
| You can accomplish this without clicking on any ads. Just
| send a DM to someone with all of the keywords you want to see
| ads for, and you will start seeing them within a few minutes.
| It's the best way to find new startups with highly specific
| relevance.
| nine_k wrote:
| TIL!
| notpachet wrote:
| If you find this stuff interesting, I recommend watching
| Cryptozoo[1]. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, but it's
| definitely a more interesting film than whatever latest Marvel
| release happens to be making the rounds.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoo
| kingcharles wrote:
| A LinkedIn ad the other day urged me to apply for the position of
| CEO of Boeing.
|
| I was just released from jail.
|
| Coincidence?
| balls187 wrote:
| Will you be writing about this experience (I recall another
| thread where you discuss being on the receiving end of a state
| sponsored attack).
| kingcharles wrote:
| Yes, absolutely. I do want to write about it, but there are
| certain aspects that I feel I can't until the situation is
| over, and that might be another 6 months, or as much as
| another 3-4 years.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Was your crime skimping on safety resulting in deaths of
| people? That would be too spooky if it were.
| belter wrote:
| Not a coincidence. Either you share the same lawyer or the same
| psychiatrist...
|
| "Facebook recommended that this psychiatrist's patients friend
| each other"
|
| https://splinternews.com/facebook-recommended-that-this-psyc...
| sorokod wrote:
| Or perhaps you share the same social network platform - time
| to leave?
| cheaprentalyeti wrote:
| It's time for me to leave when all of my stalkers start
| getting professional certification.
| gota wrote:
| Wait, if that's true its not impossible to perform targeted
| search to find out who is under psychiatric treatment...
| that's not ideal, to say the least
| Bombthecat wrote:
| Stuff like this is already known for a long time.
| avs733 wrote:
| 'known' doesn't mean everyone is aware of something, just
| that one person knows it.
|
| that is a really important reality for interacting in
| society that I think we often miss in having discussions
| with others. Just because something is 'objectively true'
| or 'a fact' doesn't mean that everyone is aware of that
| fact, when people express surprise at knowledge new to
| them it seems odd to think that indicating others
| previously knew that information is somehow a helpful
| response?
| vxNsr wrote:
| It's what led me to uninstall their app, and ultimately to
| basically stop using their website bec the desktop version
| is impossible to use and the mobile version is also kinda
| annoying. the result is I don't use it.
| jazzyjackson wrote:
| its very not ideal - facebook just assumes if you're on the
| same ip address you should have the right to know each
| other's identities. see also: https://gizmodo.com/how-
| facebook-outs-sex-workers-1818861596
| nisegami wrote:
| People from the same small town, have common contacts and
| regularly visit the same location. Nothing out of the
| ordinary, but 1. the fact this it is a healthcare provider
| creeps people out; 2. people don't already know Facebook
| collects and uses that information.
| Zababa wrote:
| That's interesting. I personally abandonned ground meat and
| equivalents some time ago. These days I eat less meat but the
| meat I eat is "real" meat, usually cuts of beef that I cook
| quickly in a hot skillet and eat with a bit of salt. It's great
| that they are alternative for people that are into ground meat.
| amelius wrote:
| Remember that movie about a guy who ate at McDonald's for a
| month, to observe the effects? [1]
|
| Someone should do the same with Facebook ads. I wonder what
| somebody would feel and look like after engaging with every ad on
| the platform.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me
| markus_zhang wrote:
| I have always been fascinated by these kinds of things.
| Cryptozoology, UFOs, Occult...wish I could have the resources to
| pursuit them scientifically. X-Files is still my top-3 TV show
| but it's quite a bit cliche after 30 years.
| thwarted wrote:
| The commercials for the old Time Life series, "Mysteries of the
| Unknown" keeps popping into my head recently.
| bashonly wrote:
| x-files only seems cliched because every crime procedural and
| every paranormal genre show since have ripped it off in one way
| or another. still rules.
| markus_zhang wrote:
| Yeah exactly. I rewatched the series a couple of months ago,
| still very good.
| rob_c wrote:
| No, you became a vice.com writer. But hey, if the store bought
| "qualifications" from it help you have at it, but there's better
| use of your time (putting down social media for a book being one)
| brrrrrm wrote:
| Unrelated to the content, anyone else having trouble reading this
| article?
|
| After three reloads from what seems to be way too many
| interactive ads, the page crashed entirely. I got about one
| paragraph in before this: https://postimg.cc/2qQ3qPjy
| SketchySeaBeast wrote:
| I don't, but I don't have any ad-blocking outside of what
| Firefox supplies by default, and I'm sure that's the
| difference.
| brrrrrm wrote:
| You're probably right, I'm browsing with iOS safari and no
| ad-block
| SketchySeaBeast wrote:
| No ad-block? Well that's surprising.
| intrasight wrote:
| Thank you for encouraging me to install an ad blocker for
| iOS. Now I can read that article ;)
| reilly3000 wrote:
| Yes it was pretty brutal, they have all manner of
| interstitials, exit-pops, app ads, video ads, and more.
| Publishers thing they have to do this crap to survive, but they
| are actually ensuring their demise. I had to try three times to
| get through the article as my UX was totally disrupted when I
| scrolled up. Two modals stacked atop each other, hoping to
| catch me before I left. Yuck.
| ruuda wrote:
| Works fine with javascript disabled. The images don't load, but
| on Vice they usually add nothing to the story anyway.
| 8bitsrule wrote:
| >My assistant suggested we first try the "wood-knock" technique.
| According to expert Bigfootologists, the creatures are said to
| communicate with one another by hitting tree trunks with thick
| branches...
|
| Sounds like Tamlin's 'assistant, a lawyer' is an id^H^H^H^H
| hasn't spent much time in the bush. BIG NOISE generally means:
| run fast and hide deep.
| dhosek wrote:
| I'm old enough to remember terminal speeds slow enough that you
| could see "is an id" spelled out and then the cursor back up
| and the replacement text appear.
| motohagiography wrote:
| I like this stuff because I think things like Ancient Aliens are
| the Subgenius and Discordianism of our time. The genius of it is
| that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind,
| literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on
| something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much
| as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. If I could
| coin a term for it, I would call it "profound comedy," where the
| genius of it is that when you apply its structural absurdity to
| other ideas whose logic people iterate into funhouse mirror
| beliefs, it shows how equally dumb they are. The laughter is
| involuntarily revealed truth. This is what makes it so dangerous
| and subversive, and the people who react to it do so because they
| know they are being mocked with impunity.
|
| I would seriously consider donating to a cryptozoology
| scholarship fund.
| qrybam wrote:
| Reads like it was written by GPT-3.
| ycombinete wrote:
| Or Slavoj Zizek
| selestify wrote:
| > The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of
| ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea,
| where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't
| illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea
| itself as a lens.
|
| Could you expound on this? I'm afraid I don't quite understand
| what you are saying
| hluska wrote:
| It sounds like David Icke. If you really need someone to
| expound on this, you could read the source but we're both on
| HN and likely reasonably similar. Can I give you some loving
| advice??
|
| Forget this. There's nothing good in Icke. I've seen way too
| many brilliant hackers get sucked into David Icke's bullshit
| on their way to a crash.
|
| If you still really need closure, I can sum it up as the
| royal family, the elite and the 'Illuminati' are lizards,
| descended from aliens. Find architects who designed buildings
| for the Baha'i faith, then trace their contributions back to
| North American parliaments, legislatures and the like. Find
| the allusions to the Baha'i faith, find the allusions to
| Freemasonry and then you'll see the projection of reality.
| Once you've seen the projection, you're free from it.
|
| Be safe. If you want to rap about the ideas with someone
| reasonably safe, I'm Greg and my email is in my profile. If
| you're getting lost, I'll give you my phone number.
|
| Be safe and healthy.
|
| Edit - The danger of Icke is that he takes basic geometry and
| civil engineering and somehow turns them into conspiracy. If
| you're remotely scientific, you'll see signs of Icke all
| around you. But some principles are principles because they
| work. We don't need conspiracy theories to explain how
| professions grow.
|
| Edit 2 - Don't google David Icke. You'll want the time back
| and I can't offer refunds. :(
| batshit_beaver wrote:
| What in tarnation
| hluska wrote:
| I can't make this shit up. The dude has published many
| books and found people who actually believe it all...
|
| If this startup thing doesn't work out, maybe I'll just
| start a cult. :)
|
| Edit - The second paragraph was a bad attempt at a joke.
| Don't start cults. Fuck David Icke.
| colechristensen wrote:
| > If this startup thing doesn't work out, maybe I'll just
| start a cult. :)
|
| I know you're not being serious but unfortunately many
| people are in this kind of thinking. All over society are
| movements and groupthink driven by a small group of
| people that realized that you can get a whole lot of
| money and power by making people believe outlandish
| things.
| pstuart wrote:
| I googled him. It took 3 seconds to realize I wanted my 3
| seconds back.
| hluska wrote:
| Shitballs. Sorry bud - I edited the original post to
| suggest that people don't google him. I'm sorry you went
| through that. :(
| pjc50 wrote:
| This is why debunking doesn't work and "pre-bunking" is
| actively harmful.
| pstuart wrote:
| Thanx, but I was braced based on your advice ;-)
|
| It's still in the same general territory as QAnon and the
| fact that 1/5 Americans drinks that kool-aid fills me
| with despair (and fear).
|
| https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/study-
| finds-...
| b3morales wrote:
| Though Icke predates QAnon by quite a bit, and I would
| almost say it is derivative of his "material". And the
| themes of the "Protocols of the Elders..." of course are
| shamefully evergreen in such discourse.
| [deleted]
| hutzlibu wrote:
| Well, I'd say for me googling him was fun. But I also just
| watched "Inside Job" a new cartoon series on netflix about
| all that(including shape shifting lizzard people), so I was
| in the mood.
|
| But I know, it is less fun, when you have to deal with
| people who takes that shit serious.
| b3morales wrote:
| I think parent is talking about the mindset or way of
| thinking that leads to revisionist history/conspiracy
| theory/etc. And saying that this mindset doesn't have much
| actually to do with the specific details of any given
| object/plotline (e.g. the Nazca lines). It's more of a self-
| reinforcing worldview, that there is a Story, that everything
| is significant in the story, everything points to everything
| else, and nothing means what appears on the surface.
|
| The novel _Foucault 's Pendulum_ is a book about this
| mindset; the _Illuminatus!_ trilogy is too in a way, though
| it 's more experiential than descriptive. There are a few
| non-fiction books, though I'm blanking on the key author's
| name. For a very contemporary non-fiction (albeit
| opinionated) take see _A Game Designer 's Analysis of QAnon_
| https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-
| analy...
| hackingthelema wrote:
| > There are a few non-fiction books, though I'm blanking on
| the key author's name.
|
| I don't know if he is who you had in mind, but Robert Anton
| Wilson -- who was one of the writers on the _Illuminatus!_
| trilogy -- has at least two non-fiction books on it. One is
| _Prometheus Rising_ , the other is _Quantum Psychology: How
| Brain Software Programs You and Your World_. They are both
| a series of essays with exercises at the end of each
| chapter. If I remember correctly, Quantum Psychology was
| more about language and semantics, and Prometheus Rising
| was more about belief systems and viewpoints.
|
| Quantum Psychology is both written in and a guide to
| E-Prime, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime (Edit, via
| wiki: 'E-Prime refers to a version of the English language
| that excludes all forms of the verb to be, including all
| conjugations, contractions and archaic forms. Some scholars
| advocate using E-Prime as a device to clarify thinking and
| strengthen writing.')
| b3morales wrote:
| Thank you, not the person I was thinking of but that's an
| excellent point-out.
|
| I had two books in mind that I was completely
| misremembering as by the same author. In fact they are by
| two different journalists. _The United States of
| Paranoia_ and _Voodoo Histories: The Role of the
| Conspiracy Theory in Shaping Modern History_.
| hackingthelema wrote:
| In Discordianism, there is something called the Law of
| Fives[1], which says, 'all things happen in fives, or are
| divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow
| directly or indirectly appropriate to 5.' There is also a
| memo from one founder to another quoted which says, 'I find
| the Law of Fives to be more and more manifest the harder I
| look.'
|
| Robert Anton Wilson has some interesting personal experiments
| about this in his book Prometheus Rising, where you go
| looking for a quarter on the ground under different personal
| contexts[2]. Other instances are things like the 23 enigma[3]
| or ancient aliens.
|
| I took motohagiography's comment to be on this phenomenon,
| where the state of mind, or how you prime the mind (e.g. with
| images or ideas), changes what you tend to find. It can be
| applied in all sorts of contexts -- prime the mind with ideas
| like conspiracy theories, and you see them everywhere. Fnord.
|
| [1] http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/23.php
|
| [2] https://nevalalee.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/looking-for-
| quart...
|
| [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Enigma
| wombatpm wrote:
| My meds must be off because I'm seeing the fnords again
| AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
| Interestingly, we had a thread not all that long ago about
| illusions and their relationship to the brain's prediction
| systems. It seems plausible that things like this are
| related.
|
| [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29254496
| guythedudebro wrote:
| Is this comment supposed to make sense?
| salawat wrote:
| It does. It's just more abstract wishy washy and
| metacognitive than most people tend to sanely run.
|
| The general theme or oomph of the point is that the world,
| and beliefs we hold tend to converge on certain structural
| relationships because they just work. Even if it isn't a
| concrete 100% accurate description of what we see in front of
| us it just feels right, so we hit a mental stop point and go
| on about our day.
|
| The belief literally feels good. To hell with reality, this
| is how it is. One of the tenets of Discordianism is there is
| no objective truth or order, as truth itself is just
| surprisingly convenient organizations of the fundamentally
| chaotic underpinnings of existence, and everyone sees things
| differently or different aspects of things thereof. We can
| all be looking at the same thing and see things completely
| differently, and in a strange sort of way, nobody is wrong.
| Fnord.
|
| Therefore, as Eris dictates, there is no one true
| Discordianism, or world, as everyone's view of the world is
| true into and unto themselves. Fnord!
|
| It can be disturbing to many, because it allows you to
| completely detach from all of your prior assumptions. Someone
| completely detached from everyone else's reality isn't
| terribly yuseful, but they are free to peer through the Chaos
| to find any momentary tendrils of direction that become
| revealed.
|
| The original poster posited positive utility from applying
| these principles to any mode of thought in such a way as to
| identify when those belief structures have fallen or been
| distorted by the same mannerisms of thought that make equally
| quacky, though more mainstream ideas feel good, thusly
| revealing that the holder of the idea is in a state of mental
| metastatic equilibrium.
|
| This makes the Discordian in the room a surprisingly strong
| catalyst for change, or at least the most aware of the set of
| Reality Distortion Fields at work/being projected by those in
| charge, and as a consequence, a threat to unified
| manipulation, and an escape hatch to individual notions of
| reality. Fnord
|
| Hail Eris!
|
| -A Discordian Malcontent
| jazzyjackson wrote:
| what is the truth that ancient aliens is revealing? that people
| are gullible? i don't get it
| motohagiography wrote:
| So called "ancient astronaut theory," is an ideology. The
| premise is the hypothetical that earth was once inhabited by
| extraterrestrials, and then when you view archeology and
| history through that lens, and provide explanations for any
| outstanding questions or uncertainties using this underlying
| assumption as a premise (could it be aliens? ancient
| astronaut theorists say yes!), you have a complete and very
| accessible critical theory of history that is very
| entertaining bunk.
|
| I could write the same series as Ancient Objectivists,
| Ancient Anarchists, Ancient Socialists, Ancient Elites, etc.
| The details they use as justification do not illuminate the
| subject, they use archeological and historical stories as
| evidence of their theory - it's all the same thing.
|
| The reason people get the satisfying feeling of "it all makes
| _sense_ " is because the one stupid idea seems to be
| reinforced by relatively neutral facts, when in fact, it's
| just a dumb idea displayed along side facts.
| hluska wrote:
| Hey bud, I made a reply on this thread and now feel guilty
| about it. I've got nothing against you and you're a
| wickedly smart person. Please please please don't think I
| was mocking you or anything you believe. You're a wickedly
| smart person and a talented writer. Those are the only
| opinions I have about you. Okay???
|
| I have strong opinions about some of the cats who publish
| these ideas. Those opinions in no way inform the opinion I
| have of you.
| saltyfamiliar wrote:
| > Please please please don't think I was mocking you or
| anything you believe. You're a wickedly smart person and
| a talented writer. Those are the only opinions I have
| about you. Okay???
|
| Why do you sound like you just found out motohagiography
| has high-level connections to the mob? Honestly this
| entire thread is starting to trigger my schizoid
| tendencies because I have no idea what half the people in
| it are talking about.
| jazzyjackson wrote:
| I guess we deserve this for clicking into a crypto-
| zoology thread but I'm right there with you
| hluska wrote:
| I'm going to make this a separate reply because it's
| important. "Schizoid" tendencies might just be a turn of
| phrase. If so, it's insensitive but I can't stop you.
|
| If that's not just a turn of phrase and you're being
| serious, you can find a lot of good in medical science.
| If you need someone to go with you, I'm based in Canada
| but have a passport. My email is in my profile and
| anything you send stays between us unless you're planning
| on harming yourself. Then seriously holmes, it's on.
| hluska wrote:
| The simplest answer is that I was an asshole. Someone
| posted an idea and someone else asked for clarification.
| Rather than act like an adult, I put on my dickbag hat
| and shit all over the idea. My issue is with David Icke
| yet for some incomprehensible reason, I jumped into a
| thread that didn't involve me and added my own personal
| shit.
|
| I injected David Icke rather than give Motohagiography
| the chance to explain their own words. At best, I was a
| bully.
|
| It was wrong of me and I fucked up. I could have behaved
| like an adult and made a difference. Instead I acted like
| a brute and made a spectacle. What the fuck was the point
| of any of that???
|
| Edit - I have a better way to describe it. I acted like a
| racist! I saw signs of David Icke and turned dick. A more
| adult adult would have shut the fuck up...alas, I'm bad
| at that.
|
| Edit 2 - If I was writing about someone else, I would
| have used the words "complete fucking asshole". Let me
| restate. The simplest answer is that I was a complete
| fucking asshole. :)
|
| Thanks for calling me out bud! :)
| b3morales wrote:
| For what it's worth (although I'm not motohagiography) I
| didn't read your comment upthread as an attack on the
| commenter. Warnings about this stuff can be appropriate,
| because it's seductive. You did a bit of conclusion-
| jumping, but misreading the original comment was an easy
| mistake to make -- it's pretty dense.
| jazzyjackson wrote:
| I think it's puzzling for some of us that someone might
| be so apologetic and deferential for speaking their mind
| in a text forum - this is what we're all here for, free
| association; someone's post reminds you of David Icke and
| projection of meaning, by all means tell us all about it.
|
| edit: I'm not the person you're replying to
| hluska wrote:
| You're making a lot of assumptions.
|
| First, you're assuming that I came across David Icke by
| chance. I didn't. Someone I love has schizophrenia and is
| currently homeless. David Icke was part of his path. Fuck
| David Icke.
|
| Second, you're assuming I have no compassion. What if
| someone reading this is sick?? I can be a dickbag or
| possibly set myself up as someone worth confiding in.
|
| I'll err on the side of being someone worth confiding in.
| Sorry bud but your opinion isn't very important to me.
| motohagiography wrote:
| I consider it a supreme privilege to have these thoughts
| read by anyone at all, so really, thank you, no issues
| here at all, even if someone (else) takes shots. This is
| public discouse, and sometimes it gets bumptuous. :)
| hluska wrote:
| Seriously friend, I don't want to take shots at you.
| You're cool and I have precisely zero reasons to take
| shots at you. You're (likely) good in my books - I only
| wrote about David Icke.
|
| If you feel I took a shot at you, I apologize. That was
| not my intent, but I behaved like a brute. That was
| completely wrong and I'm sorry. I have no excuses only
| sorrow. :(
|
| Edit - Sorry, I forgot to mention that I really dig your
| attitude. I was a dick and I'm sorry.
| wombatpm wrote:
| Don't be mocking the one true goddess! Lest Eris cast you out,
| leaving you to partake of hotdogs with no hotdog buns for all
| eternity or 5 weeks --which ever comes first.
|
| -Pope Wombatpm, KSC Burning Cow Cabal of lesser Chicago
| apocalypstyx wrote:
| What does this mean for those of us who eat leftover hotdogs
| straight from the refrigerator, no bun, no condiments, no
| nothing?
| wombatpm wrote:
| You need to find the person who eats hotdog buns with only
| condiments and marry that person
| scollet wrote:
| We'll pray for you.
| Lamad123 wrote:
| Totally agree!! Ancient Aliens has depleted the American
| market.. They they seem to have a pathological focus on RSS and
| BJP propaganda.
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