[HN Gopher] In response to the moderation team resignation (Rust)
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In response to the moderation team resignation (Rust)
Author : trenchgun
Score : 30 points
Date : 2021-11-25 18:15 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| rektide wrote:
| this is not a response. it is a notice that teams are responding.
| in systems nerd parlance, they have taken the incoming connection
| socket off the listening socket. communication channels have
| opened.
| erichocean wrote:
| What is Rust's "moderation team" supposed to do? What is its
| function?
| rgrmrts wrote:
| Moderate the rust community. Uphold the code of conduct.
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| https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/moderation
| speed_spread wrote:
| Leaving of Mozilla and being adopted by the big players marked
| the end of the (successful) _technical_ experience that Rust had
| been up to here. But Rust has also been a _social_ experience,
| with it's built-in CoC and active community management. It seems
| like the end of the first experience also signed the end of the
| second, but without the concerned participants taking notice
| until now.
|
| I would declare the social experiment also a success, since it
| allowed the community to grow and support the technology to it's
| next stage of development with a surprisingly low level of drama,
| considering the involved egos and passion required for such an
| effort.
|
| I'm not sure what should follow next. I hope the Rust foundation
| can spawn the next iteration of the social experiment so that all
| that was learned in the first phase isn't lost to the cold wind
| of the new corporate heir's management.
| pornel wrote:
| I guess this no-response-yet response is better than a complete
| silence or some quick dismissive excuse.
| 0xy wrote:
| After the Node incident, it's highly likely Ashley Williams is
| involved again due to her propensity for racism and sexism.
| killingtime74 wrote:
| They are still brainstorming how to spin the un-spinnable. This
| is like when all of a defendant's lawyers quit or all independent
| board members quit or auditors refuse to sign your annual report.
| Maybe hire some PR people to do it for you.
| CheezeIt wrote:
| It seems to me more like, the prosecution decided not to
| present their case, and the defendant's lawyers are trying to
| figure out the right motion to file.
| ziml77 wrote:
| I don't know why any of us are judging all of this from
| nothing. The only pieces of information we have are that the
| moderation team left because of issues with the core team and
| that they think no one should trust the Rust core team. But I
| don't know why I should trust either side. I need a lot more
| info before concluding anything.
| GiorgioG wrote:
| Let this be a reminder to the folks that love to hate on
| Microsoft (.NET Foundation screw-up from a few weeks ago.)
|
| Open source projects are no more immune to asshole behavior than
| anything else.
|
| This shouldn't stop you from choosing Rust or .NET.
| shrimp_emoji wrote:
| The reason I always favored open source projects was my
| assumption that they're immune to asshole behavior, a behavior
| which this news headline entails of the Rust core team.
| Zababa wrote:
| There is no response. The more this story goes on, the more shady
| it sounds. It sounds like what happens when people have a big
| interpersonal conflict behind closed doors.
|
| > As top-level team leads, project directors to the Foundation,
| and core team members, we are actively collaborating to establish
| next steps after the statement from the Rust moderation team.
|
| > While we are having ongoing conversations to share perspectives
| on the situation, we'd like to collectively state that we are all
| committed to the continuity and long term health of the project.
|
| > Updates on next steps will be shared with the project and wider
| community over the next few weeks.
|
| That seem like the usual corporate linguo.
| techdragon wrote:
| I'm deeply concerned by the lack of statements indicating they
| intend to replace the moderation team with either new people
| once this is sorted out or with a new restructuring that
| shuffles the responsibilities into new places but clearly
| retains the supervision role the moderation team provided.
| Zababa wrote:
| I'm a bit concerned about the lack of statement and/or
| substance at all.
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