[HN Gopher] Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving Everyone
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Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving Everyone
I have been really thankful for hackernews. This place has been
full of great knowledge and people. I really appreciate the
efforts of the people who are running this platform. HAPPY
THANKSGIVING
Author : mr_o47
Score : 959 points
Date : 2021-11-25 04:12 UTC (18 hours ago)
| swader999 wrote:
| Happy for some. We're only allowed to have gatherings of six
| people. Up to twenty for funerals. Sadly, our beloved family pet
| turkey passed away yesterday.
| yawnxyz wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving!!
|
| I actually find stuff and learn stuff on here that's relevant to
| both my personal and professional development.
|
| Stuff I've learned here includes: how to manage my own time
| better and make better decisions, how to do better code testing,
| lots of pro- and anti- crypto stuff, and a ton more. I've also
| discovered things like Svelte JS, CUE Lang, and a ton of other
| tools I use daily.
|
| So thanks, HN!!
| aspenmayer wrote:
| Thank you, HN, one and all. You're my favorite online place.
| randycupertino wrote:
| Thank you hacker news commentors for being more thoughtful,
| insightful, and well-spoken than people commenting on Reddit!
| Always enjoy and appreciate the discussions and threads on here
| and love finding interesting articles and thought-provoking
| commentary.
|
| Additionally, truly appreciate the text-based interface!
| rnoorda wrote:
| I was recently in a meeting with a colleague about some recent
| craziness that just finished. A lot of hard work, not fun, but
| ended up just fine. Then a few minutes later, I find out her
| daughter is in the hospital, so she's been back-and-forth there a
| lot, and her life is exponentially more crazy than my own. I felt
| terrible for complaining about my dumb issues. Work's hard
| sometimes, but it's so small in comparison.
|
| The upside of the conversation is that I've felt extra thankful
| this year- I have friends/family/coworkers going through
| sickness, abuse, divorce, coming out of the closet, and more, and
| it puts my concerns in perspective. My life is far from perfect,
| but I'm grateful for what I do have.
|
| I know very little about any of you personally, but I hope you
| continue to share your knowledge, wisdom, dumb anecdotes, and
| opinions both great and terrible.
| Dumblydorr wrote:
| Today, I am thankful for all of the technologists who made the
| greatest tool of all time: the computer. And here's to the
| greatest language of all time: VBA. Haha just kidding, it's
| obviously Rust. Or is it? Hehehehe.
|
| Just getting my snarky comment practice in before the family
| dinner. Alright, I'm off to bake a sweet potato souffle!
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| HN is the best place I've found to discuss medical stuff in a
| serious and sciency manner, for which I am endlessly grateful.
| eru wrote:
| You might like https://astralcodexten.substack.com/ and Slate
| Star Codex.
| Godel_unicode wrote:
| Ah yes, the people who keep promoting ivermectin despite a
| mountain of evidence that it doesn't do what they wish it
| would. The idea that something is effective in one place but
| not in another, because although similar it's different in
| several important ways, seems to just be too much for them.
| It's unfortunate, really. It's also amazing to me that these
| people don't seem to have thought of the most obvious proof
| that it doesn't work: a publicly traded American big pharma
| company is saying very clearly "do not buy our product for
| treating COVID-19".
|
| One of the most distressing things to me about the last 2
| years is the bright line that has been drawn under the
| innumeracy of the general population of the world.
|
| https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-
| use...
| dang wrote:
| " _Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and
| generic tangents._ "
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
| omot wrote:
| Thanks dang! Hopefully they'll give you a promotion soon, maybe
| some equity in YC companies! Maybe you'll even let us implement
| dark mode on Hacker News soon. ;)
|
| You the real one!
| freetinker wrote:
| Yup, thanks Dang!
| [deleted]
| ionwake wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving dang and to all of you
| sbuccini wrote:
| Thinking about all the folks on call for the Black Friday/Cyber
| Monday crush. They were some of my favorite days working in
| e-commerce but, then again, everything always went smoothly
| during my tenure. Thanks for holding down the fort for the rest
| of us!
| throwanem wrote:
| I've been in that trench too. I'm thankful to be out of it, and
| able to enjoy the festivities without always having an ear out
| for that PagerDuty ringtone.
|
| (EAS tones, I always used, the SAME FSK chirps followed by the
| attention tone. Wake the dead, that will. If you never want to
| miss a page again - and never want anyone in earshot to doubt
| it's important, besides - give it a try! Bonus side effect:
| you'll immediately be in the correct frame of mind if the real
| balloon ever goes up.)
| exikyut wrote:
| 853 + 960Hz? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbegB49B1TY
|
| (If you do check, maybe turn it down to be nice to your
| nerves :D)
| throwanem wrote:
| Oh, I don't need to check, I looked it up ages ago while I
| was implementing my SAME encoder. It's definitely that
| frequency pair, and they're deliberately chosen to be
| _exactly_ as unpleasant when mixed as they are.
| enahs-sf wrote:
| Was up at 1:30am fixing that blocker in production last night.
| Never a dull moment!
| exikyut wrote:
| Aw, what was it? (Roughly)
| enahs-sf wrote:
| Bug in the Black Friday promo code logic that made the deal
| unavailable. No bueno.
| kwertyoowiyop wrote:
| Thanks to you, and everyone who is on call today!
| waleedamer wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving!!!
| nickpp wrote:
| I am not American, but I give thanks today that USA exists.
| Because, for all its failings, it still is such an inspiration
| for how things can be great in the world and how a dream for a
| future in which we are so much more than we are today - can
| exist.
|
| Happy Thanksgiving!
| michaelsbradley wrote:
| We give Thee thanks, almighty God, for all Thy benefits, who
| livest and reignest for ever and ever. Amen.
|
| May the Lord grant us His peace and life everlasting. Amen.
|
| Happy Thanksgiving!
| chainwax wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving! Hackernews has been a godsend for me and my
| success as a software engineer is owed in part to this forum.
|
| I grew up the son of an English teacher. As a kid, I was always
| encouraged to look up words I didn't know in the dictionary. I do
| the same thing here, just replace words with topics and the
| dictionary with Google. The sheer amount of topics that I now
| know "enough to have a conversation about" is insane.
|
| On posts about new versions of libraries, frameworks, languages,
| services, etc, it is not uncommon to see members of the teams
| that built them chatting about it in the comments. Hearing from
| developers directly rather than release notes or marketing
| dribble is so refreshing.
|
| The holy wars that go on in comments sections are also always
| entertaining. Honestly, those are probably my favorite part.
|
| I've never found a board/community online that is as high
| quality, informative in topics I care about, or entertaining as
| this one. I'm thankful for HN, the mods, and the community here.
| yrral wrote:
| I've been a HN member for 11 years and 11 months to this exact
| day (I joined Christmas 2009).
|
| Since then, I've lived in 6 different cities, 5 different
| timezones and worked on countless side projects. But all this
| time, HN has always been my most visited month after month.
|
| I can always count on this place to keep me up to date with the
| latest tech trends and read discussions between reasonable
| people. Thank you all and especially dang for keeping discussions
| high quality. Especially as the quality of content on the rest of
| the internet deteriorates in the pursuit of virility.
|
| It's a testament to you all that place feels the same as it did
| 10+ years ago.
| kilroy123 wrote:
| Same here! My account is about the same age, and I've lived
| abroad all over the world.
|
| Hackernews always helped me feel grounded and connected to the
| tech world and community at large.
| myohmy wrote:
| Happy turkey day everyone!
|
| I hope your turkey comes out better than mine did...
| barrenko wrote:
| HN and coding is keeping me sane since March 2020.
|
| Thank you OP and everyone on HN.
| Toobam wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving day family. I love you all here. May the gods
| of tech be with you all.
| kodon wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving back at you
| busymom0 wrote:
| We had the Canadian thanksgiving few weeks ago. Happy
| thanksgiving to all my American friends and family!
| drakonka wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving! There is no Thanksgiving in my country, but I
| have been reflecting on my work life as we approach the end of
| the year and I'm really thankful for having gotten to spend 14
| happy years working with a bunch of different, interesting tech
| stacks.
| area51org wrote:
| Let's be thankful for being alive.
|
| EDIT: "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." -Carl Sagan
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| I wonder what Carl Sagan would say about Black Friday.
| midasuni wrote:
| That was 2 months ago
| teddyh wrote:
| Thanksgiving?
|
| I guess next up is President's Day? Columbus Day?
| atlasunshrugged wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving, thanks to everyone who makes this an
| informative and interesting place and especially thanks to Dang
| for the usually thankless job of moderating tough discussions!
| systemvoltage wrote:
| Interesting bunch, thanks for good discussion and thanks to the
| HN team.
| rajasimon wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving HN. I'm living in India and recently got the
| US company offer through HackerNews. It's truely one of the best
| forum that I recommend to my friends and families. Stay safe!
| Ccecil wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving.
|
| Eat some food, love your fellow humans but most importantly.
|
| Thank you to all the Opensource Devs
| splch wrote:
| discovered this site this year! super thankful for that :)
| authed wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving, Hackers!
|
| https://www.dinneratthezoo.com/spatchcock-turkey/
| kmstout wrote:
| I've butterflied turkeys for years and the results have always
| been great. Evenly cooked, juicy meat. Crispy skin. Less time.
| (You can also cook the bird atop a layer of stuffing.)
| authed wrote:
| It is a great way to cook chicken and turkey.
| meken wrote:
| I am thankful for the recent Ask HN thread where the guy
| mentioned he feels dumb and lazy. I found it very relatable and
| it caused good introspection on my part as well.
| rcconf wrote:
| Thank you all, HN is a fantastic community.
| oschvr wrote:
| I got hired through Hacker News, thanks to this forum !
| josh2600 wrote:
| Hackernews is simultaneously the most cantankerous and, imho,
| highest quality response on average public forum on the net. I
| absolutely love it here and sincerely appreciate this place. I
| feel like I've grown up on this site in so many ways.
|
| I am continually humbled by not just the consistent quality of
| content but also the comments. It's a testament to the moderators
| that this site has maintained this level of quality for so long.
|
| I am thankful and happy to use thanksgiving as an excuse to
| express that notion.
| skeeter2020 wrote:
| >> Hackernews is simultaneously the most cantankerous and,
| imho, highest quality response
|
| In other words, exactly what the internet was and (for people
| like me) hoped it would continue to be. I don't think it's
| entirely the moderation (though that certainly helps) but
| somehow the conceptual integrity has been maintained and has a
| powerful shaping force.
|
| I never completely agree with the content and opinions, but we
| all seem really well aligned with the rules of the game.
| prohobo wrote:
| Hackernews works. I respect the mods and appreciate their work
| keeping everything running. We're living in increasingly
| volatile times, and while a lot of us are stubborn and hard of
| hearing - myself included - and people like Jonathan Blow like
| to hate on that, I still think this forum is a bastion for real
| discussion and understanding on all kinds of topics.
| imran0 wrote:
| It's bizarre how many times I've come across someone just
| randomly hating on Jon Blow. I don't know what this guy does
| to attract such attention considering his relatively niche
| space of work.
| prohobo wrote:
| I'm not hating on him, I like him almost as much as John
| Carmack. I think he brings criticism on himself though
| because he's very negative on some topics, obviously not
| making friends. While he's doing his niche work he's
| shooting off strong opinions all the time.
| someuname wrote:
| If you go against the status quo you get flagged. It's just
| as shit as any other forum.
| dang wrote:
| If you post like
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29342840 you certainly
| do! Do you really think you shouldn't?
| omot wrote:
| Moderating even on Thanksgiving Day!
| silisili wrote:
| It's definitely one of the only places on the internet where
| you can ask a question or insult something, and have either the
| creator or most renown SME pop out of nowhere to explain
| everything. Never seen anything quite like it in any other
| field of interest I have.
| underdeserver wrote:
| SME = subject matter expert?
|
| Please spell out your abbreviations for those of us who are
| not familiar :)
| silisili wrote:
| Everyone else seems having fun with it, but yes - subject
| matter expert.
| valvar wrote:
| This is why one should watch our for TLAs ;)
| exdsq wrote:
| Temporal logic of actions?
| wyldfire wrote:
| TLA is a TLA. Only slightly less popular are FLAs.
| behnamoh wrote:
| If by FLA you mean Macromedia Flash Files, then yes,
| they're less popular now!
| acoard wrote:
| Worse, at least in the government circles I work in, people
| pronounce "SME" as "smee." Almost like you're saying the
| first syllable of Smeagol. Good luck googling that.
| krisrm wrote:
| You are not alone in this... The first time I heard
| "smee", I thought my ears had gone.
| phist_mcgee wrote:
| They're talking about the most renowned execs at Sony Music
| Entertainment obviously..
| 1cvmask wrote:
| Or Small & Medium-sized Enterprises
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_and_medium-
| sized_enterpr...
| adolph wrote:
| I'd bet somewhere deep in the organization SME has a SME
| SME.
| yawnxyz wrote:
| 'smee!
|
| edit: "it's me!"
| coddle-hark wrote:
| Exec at Sony Music Entertainment here. You are correct.
| leemailll wrote:
| HN is quite enjoyable to read, the only exception I observed is
| any topic political or someway a topic is diverted into that
| trench.
| macrowhat wrote:
| Don't worry I take care of that
| jonplackett wrote:
| My proudest work-achievement of the year was getting to #1 spot
| of my favourite website with termsandconditions.game
|
| I love HN. Happy thanksgiving!
| ravenstine wrote:
| Even the worst comments on HN are far better than the worst
| comments on Reddit or Twitter.
| hellbannedguy wrote:
| I agree on everything, but the moderation. Personally, I have
| seen very few times where their assistance is even needed.
|
| I have seen them squash interesting debates.
|
| I had one guy email me, and tell me at home to stop commenting
| so much. (Never forgot that one, and there are no TOS. I will
| probally pay for those last two sentences? Then again if HN is
| what it claims, maybe not?)
|
| What makes this place special is there are a wide range of
| people here interested in many subjects. What I love most is
| cutting through the bull. I doubt there's a person here who
| doesn't know about The Scientific Method, or The Placebo
| Effect.
|
| We don't automatically give credit to the wealthy boys unless
| they did something really spectacular in their lives, and we
| want to know exactly how much help the wealthy family had in
| the success. We don't let them pontificate ad nausium because
| they made money. We scrutinize and investigate everyone, and
| every idea. From the best in class PhDs to lost disenfranchised
| souls. Everyone has a chance to make their point.
|
| Hacker News is by far the best site for technical discussion.
|
| (I do spend too much time here. It's my fault though. I don't
| have much of a life, and I am lonely. I am looking for new
| sites besides Reddit. Reddit would be so much better if
| everyone wasen't trying out for a SNL contract.)
| newbamboo wrote:
| Didn't really read you post but this jumped out at me,
| "Hacker News is by far the best site for technical
| discussion."
|
| Indubitably true.
|
| Frankly, even if I'm forever shadowbanned, I can't think of a
| better place on the net. It reminds me of the old net, the
| best parts. The current fashion and culture change a bit over
| the years but not too much. It's hard to not mess up a good
| thing but they do well to do that here, even if there's a
| strong pro-CCP bias evident at times in some of the
| moderation.
| codetrotter wrote:
| HN is a great place to learn new things. And new words! This is
| the first time I've ever heard the word "cantankerous" :)
| psalminen wrote:
| Agreed. I can think of a few words off hand I learned here.
| Rejoinder has probably been my favorite.
| didericis wrote:
| Can often learn the most words from the magniloquence of
| cantankerous rejoinders.
|
| I'm actually just as thankful for all the words I _don't_
| have to learn here. This is often the first place I go to
| when I want to look for a distilled, "real" take on
| something by people capable of communicating with a lot of
| jargon but generally choose to speak simply and succinctly.
| beezischillin wrote:
| This is the only platform I frequent where I read more than I
| comment and I learn a lot from people, too. I always come here
| to find interesting takes on things and I'm very rarely
| disappointed. A lot of times I delete my comments instead of
| posting because I worry ot might not be a good enough
| contribution and that I might sound dumb. That's very humbling.
|
| Happy Thanksgiving!
| gigatexal wrote:
| Yup, you all on the whole teach me a ton and keep me honest.
| You call me out on my shit and also submit really cool things.
| Here's to more.
| arpa wrote:
| Happy United States Holiday to you too good fellow. I hope to
| live to see greetings for obscure Ghana holiday on the front page
| as well.
|
| Yeah I got karma to burn, but this is the hill i want to die on.
| Too many a good place went to ruin due to eternal septemberites
| coming from one place geographically and inadvertedly creating a
| monoculture. I get that ycombinator is US based, but hacker
| culture is so much more than just US.
| kwertyoowiyop wrote:
| this->gratitude++; // thank you (almost) all!
| dt3ft wrote:
| I am very thankful for being alive and for getting to experience
| this world, no matter how cruel it may be at times. I survived 4
| years of war that begun when I was 9 years old in the 90s. There
| is plenty to be thankful for.
|
| Happy thanksgiving!
| bob1029 wrote:
| There is no other place like this on the internet.
|
| I would like to thank everyone who visits this site and
| participates in these _excellent_ conversation threads.
|
| Extra special thanks to dang for keeping all of these cats in 1
| bag.
| TheBigLebowski wrote:
| Non-American but I do truly appreciate any holiday that puts
| emphasis on taking stock of what, and who, you are lucky enough
| to have in your life. Keep on hacking and posting folks, and I'll
| remain thankful for many years to come!
| Zensynthium wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving everyone! Proud to be a part of the community.
| Been here for about a year now and I'm looking forward to another
| one with you all!
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| I really do not understand why someone's comment about how Native
| Americans view thanksgiving, and my response to it, got flagged.
| Is it off topic? Is my concern for consumerism over Black Friday
| not relevant? I understand it's not a cheerful subject but there
| are many historical aspects of this holiday that are in fact not
| cheerful. I found it unsettling to see pure positivity when to me
| this feels like a day of mourning. I thought it appropriate to
| discuss, or is there some rule in violation?
| exdsq wrote:
| People don't want to deal with an Ebenezer Scrooge saying "bah
| humbug" after a year of lockdowns and not seeing families.
| Interesting topic but maybe one for after the holidays.
|
| Cool robots in your bio :)
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| I'm not saying "bah humbug", I am saying this country was
| founded on genocide and that our celebrations of early
| american life have too often ignored the truth about how we
| behaved. To celebrate only the positives during the holiday
| with the expectation that we will talk about atrocities
| later, we let ourselves off the hook to face the reality of
| what happened. Doing so only allows us to perpetuate the
| violence our nation has visited upon indigenous peoples since
| its founding. You need only look at the treatment of
| indigenous people protesting against Enbridge's Line 3 Oil
| Pipeline to see that violence continue. [1]
|
| The cool robots mean nothing if we cannot find our humanity
| and understand our past behavior so we may stop repeating it.
|
| [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/07/climate/line-3-pipelin
| e-p...
| [deleted]
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| Flags are typically by users, not staff.
|
| I hesitated to leave my comment here because I'm part Native
| and aware that it's complicated. The kind of comment you left
| is not the best way to broach such subjects.
|
| I would like to see more articles about Natives generally
| without focusing overly much on the victim narrative. I think
| I'm alive in part because of my Native heritage, for which I am
| also deeply grateful.
|
| My other comment that I'm talking about:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29338387
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| I appreciate your comment. I guess I am frustrated because I
| grew up with the colonizer mindset, that the Europeans who
| came here were nice people that did nice things and everyone
| had a big party together. I did a school play when I was a
| kid about making friends with the Natives.
|
| It wasn't until after school that I learned what was really
| going on, and now when I see celebration for this day I
| really do just think of genocide. Probably not the best way
| to approach this but I was surprised at how strongly users
| are flagging any comment that mentions it. It makes me feel
| like people want to keep up their cognitive dissonance, and
| it feels like that mechanism is what allows our nation to
| continue harming first nations people to this day.
| toni wrote:
| Hi Taylor!
|
| Clearly you touched on a very sensitive subject. I was also
| surprised that my link was flagged by this much people, as
| it was a very informative blog post about the fact that
| some First Nation tribes might have a different point of
| view about what Thanksgiving actually means to them.
|
| I did email dang and asked if he can take a look at down
| votes in this thread. But either way, keep up the good work
| and don't get disappointed by the sheer amount of
| injustices!
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| Redacted for privacy reasons.
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| I understand the people were not exterminated. Genocide
| does not require extermination, a partial extermination
| still counts as genocide.
|
| "Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people--
| usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or
| religious group--in whole or in part." - Wikipeda
|
| In my comment I mentioned that I am concerned about how
| widespread willful ignorance of these matters allows our
| nation to continue harming first nations peoples today.
| So certainly I am not spreading some extermination
| rhetoric.
|
| And I agree with you that my comment was not the best
| approach for getting people to understand. But I was
| responding to someone who already understood, and
| commiserating with them. Unfortunately my comment was
| flagged and killed, so others could not see how I feel.
|
| That knee jerk desire to bury discussion of the truth is
| what concerns me. That same reaction allowed police to
| mass arrest protesters fighting Enbridge's Line 3 oil
| pipeline.
|
| It seems clear to me the culture in the USA is one that
| wants to ignore what really happened. I think it is good
| that you post positive articles about Native culture and
| history, but I know too there must be a time to look at
| the facts head on, without blinders, and acknowledge what
| happened. I say this not to look back, but to look at
| those today who hold our founders in reverence every
| holiday season as bastions of freedom, even when their
| crimes are well known. The people must hear stories of
| George Washington and think "Town Destroyer"[1], not
| "cherry tree".
|
| My aim is not to convince, but to show the strength of
| our cognitive dissonance by telling the truth. And this
| thread today has done a lot to illustrate how strong that
| dissonance is.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_Destroyer
| Afforess wrote:
| Today celebrates thanksgiving and the apocalypse for Native
| Americans. On one hand, sad, on the other hand, proof that
| people can live, perhaps even thrive, beyond the apocalypse. It
| may become more relevant to us after the end of climate change
| or other world events.
| KingOfCoders wrote:
| I'm with you, as probably are most people outside of the US.
|
| To my knowledge it is the only celebration of the beginning of
| a genocide today.
| thepasswordis wrote:
| Just to be blunt: because eventually nobody wants to hear it
| anymore.
|
| This has been an extremely brutal couple of years for
| everybody, and by most estimations the brutality is going to
| continue. People want something to be happy about, and the idea
| of sharing things they're thankful for is that. You don't need
| to take that from them.
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| Historically, American's have never wanted to hear the truth
| about what the colonists did to the indigenous people of
| America. I would not say this is a recent phenomenon. But
| giving ourselves a pass to forget it allows us to perpetuate
| the violence against indigenous people.
| brink wrote:
| If it feels like a day of mourning to you, then go ahead and
| mourn. You seem to believe that we are celebrating what you are
| mourning; we're not.
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| I promise you I don't have any opinion about what you are
| celebrating. I do not think people here are celebrating
| genocide, I think they are ignoring it and then downvoting
| and flagging comments that mention it. That behavior does not
| seem appropriate to me.
| thepasswordis wrote:
| Man, why don't you just go outside and get some fresh air?
| Seriously nobody wants to hear this. Don't yuck other
| peoples yum.
|
| Nobody is celebrating genocide. People want to get together
| with their families and be happy.
| dang wrote:
| Please don't get personal.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
|
| Edit: also, please don't call names -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29338611 is not ok
| here, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel
| they are.
| jeabays wrote:
| You are celebrating a holiday commemorating western settlers
| committing genocide against the indigenous nations of
| America, whether you choose to recognize it or not, that is
| indeed its historical legacy.
| thepasswordis wrote:
| That is absolutely not what the holiday is for. If you
| believe that, you are either lying, or are suffering some
| sort of paranoid delusion. Go outside.
| Godel_unicode wrote:
| > Is it off topic?
|
| Yes.
|
| > Is my concern for consumerism over Black Friday not relevant?
|
| To a post about being thankful on Thanksgiving? It is
| absolutely not relevant. Let people be happy.
| throwaway984393 wrote:
| That's what the Dutch say about Black Pete. It's just a bit
| of blackface, and the children are happy.
| protomyth wrote:
| Users flag and I would assume _I mostly associate the holiday
| with genocide._ did it. Then you have the wrong association
| given the current tribal views on the holiday. This view doesn
| 't help anyone and actively hurts the perception of the tribes.
| Can we just have one day where we are thankful and get along?
|
| I work at a TCU and we gathered canned items as a staff to
| distribute to the less fortunate. That's the actual spirit of
| Thanksgiving.
| DonHopkins wrote:
| 4/20 is also traditionally celebrated as Hitler's birthday by
| white supremacists, but that doesn't mean all the stoners and
| hippies who celebrate cannabis on that same day are also
| celebrating Hitler trying to exterminate the Jews.
|
| Decent people have reclaimed the day 4/20 and number 420 for
| better purposes than celebrating Hitler's birthday, the same
| way "queers" have reclaimed that term as our own and use it
| in the acronym LGBTQ+.
|
| So let's please not let the white supremacists who celebrate
| American's genocide against the original natives maintain
| their exclusive claim on Thanksgiving, which literally means
| giving thanks, which is a good thing for everyone to do in
| general.
| zozbot234 wrote:
| While Thanksgiving is indeed partially a celebration of the
| yearly harvest, to say "Thanksgiving is just about giving
| thanks" really misses the point of what people are rightly
| complaining about - which is that much of the folklore
| relating to the holiday amounts to a celebration of
| collective denial around the historically dismal and
| dishonorable ways English settlers behaved towards the
| natives. And the controversy about Thanksgiving is not even
| new: Mark Twain acknowledged it as early as the 1920s! http
| s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(United_States)#C...
| yesenadam wrote:
| > Mark Twain acknowledged it as early as the 1920s!
|
| He died in 1910.
| zozbot234 wrote:
| Sure, but the portions of his autobiography where he had
| remarked on this were only published in the 1920s. So
| these remarks were not known prior to that timeframe.
| kwertyoowiyop wrote:
| So you are technically correct. Which is, of course, the
| best kind of correct.
| protomyth wrote:
| They never had an exclusive or even a meaningful claim on
| Thanksgiving. I grew up on rezs and have never heard such.
| Thanksgiving has always been a celebrated holiday that
| shows Native American generosity.
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| I'm stating a flat fact about my beliefs. It is how I see the
| holiday.
|
| > Then you have the wrong association given the current
| tribal views on the holiday.
|
| Which tribal views? I was responding to a comment that linked
| to a purportedly indigenous American view that mentioned the
| link to genocide.
|
| > actively hurts the perception of the tribes.
|
| Tell that to the people who wrote the article linked in the
| comment I was responding to.
|
| > we gathered canned items as a staff to distribute to the
| less fortunate. That's the actual spirit of Thanksgiving.
|
| How do you define "actual?" My understanding of indigenous
| life in the Americas before colonization is that people would
| have been cared for based on need year round, not once a
| year.
| throwaway984393 wrote:
| It's one of the unspoken rules here ( _" Thou shalt not bring
| up painful or inconvenient truths"_, related to _" Thou shalt
| not be controversial in a way that doesn't reinforce our
| beliefs"_). But now you're violating an actual rule too ( _"
| Thou shalt not comment on being downvoted/flagged"_).
| b3lvedere wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving everyone!
| eganist wrote:
| This is nice, and I'm glad you posted it, and I'm glad it's still
| up.
|
| Happy thanksgiving! And for non-Americans wondering what it is:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving
|
| Controversy around origin aside, hey at least the spirit of it is
| nice.
| enimodas wrote:
| Let's try to not go shopping this year so those retail workers
| can also have a happy thanksgiving.
| 5555624 wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
| exdsq wrote:
| First thanksgiving in the US. My wife and I have stocked up on
| some of the worst looking pre-made things from Safeway to easily
| make tomorrow so neither of us have to cook. Excited to have a
| long weekend :) Enjoy yours too!
| elguyosupremo wrote:
| The most important part of Thanksgiving is spending time with
| the people you care about, the food is all secondary; it sounds
| like you're doing things right.
|
| That being said, in the future I recommend seeking out the best
| pies that you can, my personal favorites are blueberry and
| apple.
|
| Welcome to America and happy Thanksgiving!
| OMGCable wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
| ryan0x00 wrote:
| Much love. Happy thanksgiving <3
| jonplackett wrote:
| Pretty much the only place on the internet where the comments are
| as intelligent and informative - or more so - than the articles
| themselves.
|
| Actually, that's probably a much higher bar than needs leaping
| over - it's pretty much the only place where the comments aren't
| just a bunch of hate filled bile.
| rfreytag wrote:
| Yes! Happy thanksgiving to all y'all (especially you dang)!
| hereforphone wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving. Please remember that regardless of the
| "difficulties" the western world is facing now, you have it
| better than almost everyone on the planet. I've been to some of
| the poorest countries on earth in war and peace. Never take
| anything for granted. Please be safe, and be _thankful_.
| m0llusk wrote:
| An interesting game, mr_o47. The only winning move is to play.
| jollybean wrote:
| Happy 'American' Thanksgiving. :)
| EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote:
| My daily news fix converged to just two sources - HN and Daily
| Science telegram channels. Thank you guys for liberating me from
| the Reddit hell!
| eric4smith wrote:
| As an Immigrant to the USA, I did not get the whole thanksgiving
| thing. But then as I had a kid there, I warmed up to it.
|
| Then now I've been living abroad for almost 10 years without
| returning home to the USA and if I did not see this post I would
| not even have remembered.
|
| It's strange how we can so quickly adjust to holidays from
| different countries in just a few years -- while forgetting the
| ones back home so easily. And it's not because we were ingrained
| with them as kids, because while I grew up in Jamaica, I've
| totally forgotten the holidays there now.
|
| I guess the main one is Christmas - it's hard to forget because
| of all the shopping - and that's kinda celebrated here in Asia
| too.
|
| Anyway... Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!
| busymom0 wrote:
| In the same boat myself. I immigrated from india to Canada many
| years ago and since then, Christmas is the only one I can
| actually remember and usually celebrate. The other traditional
| ones like Diwali, Durga Puja, Holi, Eid etc are all forgotten
| to me unless my family reminds me of it.
| bufordtwain wrote:
| UK immigrant to the USA here. I heard about and celebrated
| Diwali for the first time this year (by going out for Indian
| food). I'm up for any and all holidays. Especially ones that
| involve food and no other commitments :) Happy Thanksgiving
| to all!
| A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
| I can relate as I am an immigrant as well. I do not know if it
| is me getting older or the fact this year was especially
| eventful ( new title, first baby ), but, despite all the stuff
| going on in the world today, I feel especially thankful.
|
| It is funny, because only few years ago I was more cynical
| about it and reduced all holidays to the 'feast' part.
| andrew_ wrote:
| Citizen of the Earth, member of the Cherokee Nation - let us not
| forget the spirit of the day. Everyone viewing this post has
| something to be thankful for. Be humble, be kind. Happy
| Thanksgiving.
| theonething wrote:
| > be kind
|
| Likewise to you.
| DeathArrow wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving to all Americans!
| DeathArrow wrote:
| Why the downvote? Not everybody here is from US.
| sul_tasto wrote:
| Can't say I agree with the downvote. Nevertheless, even
| though Thanksgiving is a US holiday, the spirit of
| Thanksgiving is to invite and include everyone. You don't
| have to be a US citizen to celebrate Thanksgiving.
| [deleted]
| tartoran wrote:
| Happy TG HN, Dang and PG
| rackjack wrote:
| In terms of Hacker News specific gratitude, I am thankful for the
| deep and diverse level of experience lots of people on here
| possess, and the moderators who enable these voices to rise to
| the top.
| stephenitis wrote:
| I am thankful for this community helping largely stay off normal
| news sources and providing me with healthy discussion to jog my
| brain in some long ass Austrian lockdowns.
|
| Thanks everyone & HN staff
| kaladin_1 wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving Everyone.
|
| I am grateful for this platform, the moderators and all
| contributors.
|
| Thank you Dan.
|
| I remember when I was new here. I was impressed and equally
| challenged by the achievements of people here. One of my first
| questions was how I could get a good remote job. Dan replied and
| informed me about the Whoishiring account. He sounded very
| positive and even wished me good luck. I felt so motivated and
| eventually used it to secure a remote work that I really like.
| dang wrote:
| Yay! I love it when HN has positive effects on people's real
| lives. It did that for me too, long before I became a moderator
| here. Thank you, PG.
| b20000 wrote:
| thanks, and happy thanksgiving to you as well and everyone else
| here. apart from the occasional ranting and bitching this has
| been a very nice place.
| [deleted]
| larodi wrote:
| Most honest gratitude to all of you who contribute with
| incredible comments and valuable insights in the comments
| section!
| ablekh wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving! I appreciate this community and wish everyone
| all the best this holiday season and beyond.
| [deleted]
| tehlike wrote:
| We recently learned our friend's 9-month-old was diagnosed with
| leukemia. I have a two year old daughter, and cant even imagine
| the pain they are going through.
|
| This year, I am thankful for being healthy as a family, and i am
| praying for the kid.
|
| That's all.
| tjpnz wrote:
| To all those saying it's a strictly American affair I would point
| out that Japan also has it's own version on the same week.
|
| Happy Labor Thanksgiving Day everyone!
| dang wrote:
| What is the Japanese version of Thanksgiving? I had no idea.
| krapp wrote:
| They probably mean this:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Thanksgiving_Day
| vmception wrote:
| It's a nice reason to recollect what you are thankful for or can
| be as other people share
|
| To me i can appreciate that far more than worrying about the
| origin story, but the version thats told is inspirational too
| mynegation wrote:
| Thank you Dan Gackle for making this site my happy place, the
| only place on the internet that I read every day.
|
| Thank you all for posting and upvoting the interesting stories.
| Thank you for replying to my comments. Thank you for upvoting
| them. Thank you for downvoting them, too. I come here to learn
| and be amazed at knowledge, creativity, and kindness.
| rwbhn wrote:
| Hear, hear!
|
| Happy Thanksgiving, all. Hope you are able to spend time with
| family and friends.
| ericd wrote:
| Definitely, thanks dang!
| [deleted]
| newbie789 wrote:
| I'll upvote that. Being a mod is a difficult and nearly
| completely thankless (but utterly necessary) job, he's got a
| good attitude and consistent enforcement of the rules. Cheers
| dang!
| hackitup7 wrote:
| Dang is the traffic cop + mom + cool older cousin + prison
| warden that HN needs, and I think that's what's allowed this
| place to stay so great.
| christophilus wrote:
| dang does a dang good job. He's corrected me a few times for
| posting unhelpful, snarky, or dismissive comments. His care and
| vigilance really makes this the best forum on the web that I'm
| aware of.
| rsj_hn wrote:
| dang good egg, confirmed.
|
| Happy Thanksgiving!
| randycupertino wrote:
| I always like how even when people are so cranky and rude
| to him because they're complaining about whatever they
| disagree with, he's always so respectful and thoughtful
| back. It's rather amusing to see a mod rule via benevolent
| kindness instead of like a petty HOA president :P
| missedthecue wrote:
| As someone who has been rapped across the proverbial knuckles
| by dang for making unnecessarily combative or snarky comments,
| I too want to thank him for making this a great place.
| tentacleuno wrote:
| Dang is a bloody excellent moderator. I personally love his
| more talkative and eloquent tone, instead of the "can you
| stop", "just follow the rules or fuck off" attitude other
| moderators seem to have. He's a bit of a role model to me, so I
| do tend to try and watch how he moderates and blend it into my
| own style.
| randycupertino wrote:
| Ha! I literally just commented almost exactly the same thing
| below to another post. I'm glad there's a few of us who
| appreciate his benevolence.
| TravHatesMe wrote:
| Didn't know his name, I was saying dang as in _dangit_ in my
| head for year. Need to fix that to Dan-G.
| acoard wrote:
| For what it's worth, I still mentally pronounce it as
| "dang" (i.e. part of dang-it). I know it's not his name,
| but it's so perfect, I thought it had to be intentional,
| like a little joke.
| dang wrote:
| That's right.
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25061563
| benjaminwootton wrote:
| I always assumed dang was an Asian name. Didn't realise it was
| a Dan G :-)
| newbamboo wrote:
| Knowing his name is Gackle I still suspect he is of Asian
| descent. Because Asians are cool. They have western names if
| they are mixed. Nothing at all wrong with that.
| cghendrix wrote:
| Same!
| thepasswordis wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving, HN! Hoping for a safe and happy weekend for
| everyone, and praying for anybody daring to brave an airport!
| Good luck, and reminder: take as much leftovers home as you
| possibly can. Stuffing a Hawaiian roll full of cold turkey and
| cranberry sauce and eating it over the sink is a godly act.
|
| For those of you who have to work to keep this giant machine
| running, just be aware: legally you are allowed to have one drink
| at your desk at all times during the holiday weekend. I don't
| make the rules.
| gwill wrote:
| "Stuffing a Hawaiian roll full of cold turkey and cranberry
| sauce and eating it over the sink is a godly act."
|
| what i would pay for that experience while walking home after a
| night out.
| sakopov wrote:
| My 10th year on HN after several years lurking. There is no
| better place on internet. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Stay
| healthy, be kind and count your blessings.
| rookderby wrote:
| I am thankful for this site, and the awesome comments from users.
| I'm really thankful for comments with sources and that a lot of
| users follow the guidelines [1]. It makes for interesting
| reading. Thanks for a place I can read something new on every
| day.
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
| NotPractical wrote:
| It's pleasant to see something like this on here mixed in with
| all the technical posts. Happy thanksgiving!
| dudus wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I hope you can spend some time with
| family this holidays.
|
| You are all beautiful, bickering, nerds. And I love you all.
| sheetbird wrote:
| This site is poison. Very pretentious, Silicon Valley try-hards.
| Please downvote me you delicate geniuses!
| goblinux wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving y'all!
| primitivesuave wrote:
| It's been over 8 years for me with you wonderful people, thank
| you all so much for the immeasurable wisdom you have imparted
| over the years.
| plainOldText wrote:
| I - like other people have reported - have grown tremendously
| intellectually by reading HN through the years.
|
| Happy Thanksgiving!
| TuneG wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving Everyone.
| unkulunkulu wrote:
| I'm from another culture and this is a FIRST thanksgiving for me
| :)
|
| This place has been not only enjoyable and absolutely blowing
| away for me because of all the great people who participated in
| key events for our industry and provided first hand perspective
| on something I only remotely heard of before.
|
| But the warm inclusive accepting and encouraging atmosphere here
| is totally something else on the internets nowadays, thank every
| single one of you for that.
|
| And a cherry on top, one of the book recommendations here changed
| my life in ways I could not have imagined, so you're all very
| special for me, hope to be a part of this big and warm community
| for the years to come, thank you for your precious time and
| attention!
| shill wrote:
| Do you mind sharing the name of the book?
| unkulunkulu wrote:
| It's Keith Johnston Improv. It really helped me to become
| friends with my subconscious, imagination, destroy some
| assumptions about myself, reframe my view of children, of
| course laid a stone into my decision to have a child (like
| this year as opposed to "eventually" or some day as I started
| interacting with children after reading the book), showed me
| a cool hobby and a new way to express myself as an event
| organizer. I have like 240 highlights and notes in it, more
| than in any other book by far, it was really a book written
| just for me at that point in life, you know? It also has a
| bit of a twist towards the end. Highly recommend! I'm 33 if
| this provides some context I dunno :)
| neoncontrails wrote:
| Gosh, this was beautiful to read as an incidentally American
| person.
|
| There's something truly healing in giving thanks, in calling
| attention to the countless small acts of kindness without which
| we wouldn't be where we are today. The holiday itself is so
| freighted with the weight of our history, but the premise seems
| good. It actually seems to me more humanist, less materialistic
| and less secular, than any other holiday on the Western
| calendar.
| unkulunkulu wrote:
| For sure, gratitude is healing both ways, holidays like this
| must really have a wide positive effect on communities and
| wellbeing of people. We need more of those :)
| Goingaroundstreetsandscreamingiloveyouateachotherday anyone?
| :))
| aydwi wrote:
| Speaking of books discovered on HN, this website is an
| excellent, distilled resource: https://hackernewsbooks.com/
| 1cvmask wrote:
| The number one book this week is:
|
| How to Destroy a Tech Startup in 3 Easy Steps
| wiether wrote:
| I'll also be thankful for the book's name
| unkulunkulu wrote:
| Replied to the first post with details, Keith Johnston Improv
| protomyth wrote:
| For those that are alone, remember the world is full of
| serendipity and the desolate years can change.
|
| For those in groups, be thankful for those you break bread with
| and the paths that led them to your table.
| tentacleuno wrote:
| Some people are both at the same time. You can be in a social
| group yet feel bitterly alone at the same time. That's
| essentially what I used to feel like.
| Shared404 wrote:
| That's a hard place to be in, for those in that situation,
| know that at least one internet stranger cares enough to chat
| for a bit - emails in my bio.
|
| Can't promise to respond instantly, but will respond before I
| go to bed tonight.
| sheetbird wrote:
| happy
| knaik94 wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving y'all
| senectus1 wrote:
| hows this thankful thing work? is it a specifically Christian
| thing or is it secular?
|
| I'm peripherally aware it has something to do with (North
| American first nation) Indians and early settlers plus it tends
| to involve feasting on turkey and pumpkin dishes.
| hollerith wrote:
| Many cultures celebrate the annual harvest although maybe not
| all of them combine it with gratitude.
| eru wrote:
| Many cultures in temperate climates do.
|
| Much further away from the equator, you can't really do
| agriculture to harvest stuff. Closer to the equator you can
| often do multiple harvests a year.
|
| Mentioning this not just to be pedantic (though I enjoy
| that), but also because the connection between our physical
| surroundings and culture are endlessly fascinating.
|
| See eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghmjIBD2Fd4
| area51org wrote:
| Let's just be thankful for what we have.
| implements wrote:
| (A British person ponders ...) "Why do Americans have two
| Christmas-type celebrations (travel, food, family drama) a
| month apart? It seems ... odd."
| kwertyoowiyop wrote:
| If you're recommending we add another two in June and July
| for symmetry, I'm up for that.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| To be fair, both New Year's Eve and Christmas are essentially
| the same holiday (a solstice celebration missing the mark by
| a few days).
| Turing_Machine wrote:
| Thanksgiving is more of a (somewhat late) harvest festival
| than a solstice festival.
| sakopov wrote:
| I mean, you clearly know exactly what the holiday is about.
| What's the point of your comment?
| pdonis wrote:
| _> is it a specifically Christian thing or is it secular?_
|
| As far as the US holiday is concerned, it's secular, by which I
| mean it is celebrated by pretty much everybody regardless of
| religious persuasion (or lack thereof).
| eru wrote:
| Thanksgiving is a bit like Christmas Eve. It's the evening
| before Black Friday.
| grp000 wrote:
| Now, let us pray to the one True God of the United States,
| Consumerism.
| [deleted]
| skissane wrote:
| It is Christian in origin, albeit a minor local Christian
| tradition (developed in the US) rather than a major near-
| universal one. Like many Christian traditions, it has been
| secularised, just as Christmas has been. I think the big
| difference between Thanksgiving and Christmas, is the
| Christian origins of the later are much harder to forget.
| That's why relatively few Jews (for example) are willing to
| celebrate Christmas even in a wholly secularised form,
| whereas the majority of American Jews have no problem with
| celebrating Thanksgiving-Christmas is still identified with
| its Christian origins in a way in which Thanksgiving is not.
|
| That said, not all American Jews do view Thanksgiving as
| acceptable. Among ultra-Orthodox Jews, the belief is
| widespread that celebrating Thanksgiving violates Jewish
| religious law against observing non-Jewish festivals.
| Likewise, some conservative Muslims (Salafis in particular)
| view Thanksgiving as _haram_ for parallel reasons. You might
| say these Jewish and Muslim objectors are paying more
| attention to the festival's Christian origins than most
| Americans do.
|
| Thanksgiving isn't the only example of a minor American
| Christian tradition being secularised - the same is true of
| Mother's Day and Father's Day. Unlike Thanksgiving, which is
| rarely observed outside of North America, Mother's Day and
| Father's Day have spread to most of the rest of the English-
| speaking world, even if not always on the same date. Many
| cultures have indigenous traditions of festivals to celebrate
| motherhood and/or fatherhood, going back centuries or more;
| but in Anglophone countries, Mother's Day and Father's Day
| are generally American in origin, and only date to the 20th
| century, not due to one of those older traditions.
| senectus1 wrote:
| interesting. So its an American Settler Christian event
| thats been, as usual typically watered down for the mass
| marketability.
|
| We dont have it here in Australia (except apparently on a
| small island off to the side of the mainland). We don't
| really have any sort of festival or celebration that is
| comparable.
| skissane wrote:
| I think the equivalent for the majority of Australians
| really is Christmas. Americans tend to see extended
| family on Thanksgiving, whereas Christmas (for those who
| observe it) tends to be a smaller affair more likely to
| be spent with immediate family only. By contrast,
| Australians are much more likely to see extended family
| at Christmas. Also, our traditional equivalent to the
| Black Friday sales is the Boxing Day sales, which is
| another way in which Australian Christmas = American
| Thanksgiving. Very many secular Australians celebrate
| Christmas in a completely secular way, with no religious
| component.
|
| Of course it is not entirely equivalent, in that
| Thanksgiving is a more religiously inclusive holiday than
| Christmas is. While there are people with a religious
| objection to both, there are many more with a religious
| objection to the later but not the former.
| senectus1 wrote:
| thats twice I've seen black friday mentioned along side
| of thanksgiving... I'll have to look up exactly what
| started black friday now :P
| skissane wrote:
| Day after Thanksgiving when stores reopen having been
| closed the day before. Traditionally called "Black
| Friday" because it put retail businesses books back into
| the black.
|
| I think this recent adoption of Black Friday in Australia
| is dumb, for two reasons:
|
| (1) It makes zero sense given we don't celebrate
| Thanksgiving
|
| (2) Given the term's historical association in Australian
| culture with mass death (1939 Black Friday bushfires that
| killed over 70 people, 2009 Black Saturday bushfires that
| killed over 170 people), using it for sales could be seen
| as disrespectful and culturally insensitive
| hiyer wrote:
| > It is Christian in origin, albeit a minor local Christian
| tradition (developed in the US) rather than a major near-
| universal one.
|
| It is Christian only in the sense that the people who
| celebrated it were Christian. The events that led to the
| festival were purely political in nature, and not
| necessarily wholesome either.
|
| 1. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/thanks
| givi...
|
| 2. https://www.salon.com/2016/11/23/thanksgiving-a-day-of-
| mourn...
| skissane wrote:
| Thanksgiving, as a consistent national holiday formally
| observed every year, was established by Abraham Lincoln's
| proclamation in 1863, which declared it a day for
| "Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who
| dwelleth in the Heavens". Clearly religious in nature,
| although no doubt Lincoln had political motivations as
| well - the two are not mutually exclusive. 1621 was in
| itself a one-off event; the fact that it was later cited
| as justification for a regular observance says more about
| those later times than about 1621, and how 1621 was
| presented at those later times (such as in 1863, but also
| various earlier times too-it was observed at the
| state/local level, and intermittently nationally too,
| before Lincoln made it a regular national observance) is
| more important than what really happened _for the purpose
| of determining whether it should be classified as
| religious_. Abraham Lincoln appears to have not believed
| in Christianity personally (his personal beliefs are
| obscure, but he may have been some kind of deist); but
| when he made that proclamation I think he was expecting
| most Americans to understand it in Christian terms and
| most Americans at the time in fact did.
| armenarmen wrote:
| https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+thanksgiving
| toni wrote:
| https://blog.nativehope.org/what-does-thanksgiving-mean-
| to-n...
| TaylorAlexander wrote:
| Yep, it's weird to see all the cheerful "Happy
| Thanksgiving" comments. I mostly associate the holiday with
| genocide. And when people talk about Black Friday I think
| of the poor working conditions of workers overseas whose
| country has been turned in to a factory for cheap goods for
| Americans and Europeans. The consumerist excitement for the
| next shiny good trains us to see joy in consumption even as
| our consumption is destroying the most beautiful thing we
| know, the Earth. It's depressing seeing all the ads for
| more landfill fodder and doubly so to see people excited
| about it. New technology can be liberating but Black Friday
| is a celebration of overproduction as fantasy and practice
| and it's grotesque.
|
| EDIT: Flagged? Have I broken a rule? Or just raised an
| uncomfortable subject?
| SwiftyBug wrote:
| If @usnectus1 asked this here is because they wanted to
| initiate a conversation about thanks giving in this very
| light-hearted post (which, gasp, happened). It's not like
| they are spamming or cluttering a technical post with an
| "easily googleable question".
|
| This year I'm thankful I don't have to deal with that kind of
| behaviour outside the internet.
| senectus1 wrote:
| I was actually curious of the personal views on this. Sure
| I can google and delve into different non-authoritive
| sources. But HN is a community i value their points of
| views (mostly).
|
| The only thing that comes to mind about my knowledge of
| Thanks Giving is from the Addams Family Values film... I'm
| pretty sure I shouldn't be taking that revision of a
| historical event too seriously.
| teruakohatu wrote:
| Happy thanksgiving. This is such a wonderful community that I am
| so pleased to be part of.
| Huhty wrote:
| Right back at ya!
| relwin wrote:
| My Thanksgiving Bullet Enumerated List:
|
| 1) I'm thankful my elderly parents and in-laws are healthy and
| survived the worst of the pandemic.
|
| 2) I'm thankful new relatives are healthy and thriving (who
| doesn't adore babies?)
|
| 3) I'm thankful my immediate family is OK. Zoom-schooling and
| masking is not ideal but we adjusted and adapted.
|
| 4) I'm in awe of the medical professionals who withstood the
| brunt of the pandemic and continue to provide for our well-being.
|
| 5) And the technologists that support the medical professionals
| -- the those who build the tools, design the scientific
| instruments, operate the equipment, push the tech to
| incrementally do more -- all this seems like magic but is
| comprised of late night debugging, inspired insight, that blood-
| sweat-beers workpersonship that keeps society chugging along.
| cirrus3 wrote:
| Agree. As much as this place drives up my anxiety and displeasure
| everyday, it is still my #1 source for news that I care to hear
| about. Kind of a low bar, but hey, still above the bar =)
| Tokelin wrote:
| I may not celebrate Thanksgiving (not American) but I would still
| like to say thanks to hacker news. I don't remember how long ago
| I discovered it, but it's been an amazing journey. Let it never
| end. Thank you to this amazing community.
| bhu1st wrote:
| Happy Thanksgiving all. I'm from Kathmandu, Nepal we celebrate
| something similar around October, called Dashain, the spirit is
| the same. Family time, good food and being thankful for what we
| have.
| deberon wrote:
| What is the appropriate way to wish somebody a happy Dashain?
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