[HN Gopher] Europe must ban Bitcoin mining to hit the 1.5C Paris...
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       Europe must ban Bitcoin mining to hit the 1.5C Paris climate goal,
       says Sweden
        
       Author : nixass
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2021-11-23 21:48 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | AtlasBarfed wrote:
       | It would be more interesting to say you must run large-scale
       | bitcoin farms off of 100% renewables.
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       | Or nuclear.
       | 
       | But how would this be enforced?
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | Require miners run only when renewables are being produced in
         | excess, where they otherwise would've been curtailed and
         | consuming renewables wouldn't cause fossil generator to fill
         | in.
         | 
         | Mostly trivial with existing meter grade equipment, carbon
         | impact and generation mix APIs, etc. Google uses electricitymap
         | to shift workloads to minimize carbon emissions, for example.
        
       | Asraelite wrote:
       | It's nice to see that this is about proof of work mining
       | specifically, as opposed to the blanket ban on all
       | cryptocurrencies with environmental concerns being used as a
       | thinly veiled excuse that we're seeing in some places.
        
       | version_five wrote:
       | I oppose carbon taxes (I don't want to get into that here); I
       | also think bitcoin is stupid. But I see this kind of headline as
       | an argument for a carbon tax. Trying to ban specific things is a
       | silly political game of whack-a-mole - creating an exhaustive
       | list of "bad" things is impossible and also overreach into
       | telling people what to do. The better way (and I realize this is
       | beating a dead horse) is to have the price reflect the
       | externalities. Let people mine bitcoin or idle their car or
       | whatever other thing they want, just make sure the cost they pay
       | to do it properly reflects the all-in cost of the activity, and
       | try to do it in a way that the poor are not disproportionately
       | disadvantaged (whoops, that's a big part of my opposition).
        
         | wmf wrote:
         | So carbon tax and dividend.
        
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