[HN Gopher] Alan Kay at UCLA (2016) [video]
___________________________________________________________________
Alan Kay at UCLA (2016) [video]
Author : gjvc
Score : 73 points
Date : 2021-11-21 14:56 UTC (8 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.youtube.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.youtube.com)
| [deleted]
| neilv wrote:
| Talk starts at 6 minutes in:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5L3EEWBJQw&t=6m
|
| The audio is pretty quiet.
| aduitsis wrote:
| Slightly off-topic, but besides all the important contributions
| of Alan Kay, there is also his famous quote:
|
| > Point of view is worth 80 IQ points
|
| The wisdom of it is that it suggests a profound change in the
| point of view of what intelligence is. Although I suspect this
| must have been researched well before the quote, it summarizes so
| beautifully the fact that intelligence isn't just some single-
| dimensional hard coded genetic trait, but something transferable
| and even contagious through language. Love that quote.
| Tommabeeng wrote:
| In prior talk(s) he's famous for saying "IQ is a lead weight".
| creamytaco wrote:
| Akan Kay is obviously referring to "genius", someone who is
| able to see things outside of the consensus POV and make leaps
| that others can't. Alas, this is not transferable through
| language. There have been precious few that fit the
| characterization of genius, and fewer still recognised today,
| due to contempary societal conditions being actively hostile to
| it: https://geniusfamine.blogspot.com/
| locallost wrote:
| I've seen him mention this in talks and the example he used was
| that Leonardo da Vinci was smarter than Henry Ford, but he
| couldn't build anything he envisioned because he was born in
| the wrong century. So I think he meant something a bit
| different, that knowledge of something somebody else solved can
| be more valuable than raw intelligence.
| xkriva11 wrote:
| I like Alan's talk about education: https://youtu.be/dTPI6wh-Lr0
| dboreham wrote:
| I visited Disney in 1997 with my boss. They were using our
| product and had some bugs to report, or feature suggestions, I
| forget exactly. Sitting with the guy reporting the bugs at his
| desk, I mentioned in passing that "Alan Kay works somewhere at
| Disney doesn't he?". My counterpart responds "oh, yeah he sits
| there" (pointing to the other side of the partition we're both
| facing). I'm like "shearight", so I walk around and sure enough
| there's the nameplate (or some other evidence that it was indeed
| AK's desk, long ago I forget the details). Sadly he was not at
| his desk.
| neilv wrote:
| I wonder how many people have almost-met stories about Alan
| Kay. :)
|
| IIRC, my potential one was pre-dawn in Central Square, up the
| street from MIT, and I go into the Dunkin Donuts for a coffee.
| The only other customer in there was ordering a bunch of donut
| holes, and looked like Alan Kay... Then he adds, like an
| afterthought, something like, "It's for kids".
|
| (My immediate guess was, if it was Kay, he was probably
| collaborating with a particular professor's group nearby. I'm
| not sure why I didn't say hello to a suspected one of my
| heroes, but I suppose I was still in deserted nighttime Central
| Square don't-get-stabbed street mode, and so the situation
| seemed a bit surreal. And the Boston area culture isn't big on
| acknowledging strangers, even in less-threatening daytime
| conditions.)
| DonHopkins wrote:
| That was probably around 1982-1984, when Alan Kay was Chief
| Scientist at Atari, and set up Atari Cambridge Research Lab.
|
| Atari Cambridge Research- part 1 - Cynthia Solomon:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR2CwKculBU
|
| >This is a demonstration of some of the works in progress
| from July 1982 to April, 1984. From learning Logo, a look at
| our work at introducing people to computers, to music with
| some of our futuristic instruments. We'll take you on a tour
| of our lab. Director or Research, Cynthia Solomon.
|
| >I'm Cynthia Solomon. You're about to see some of the
| research that has been going on at the Atari Cambridge
| Research Laboratory. I've been its director since we started
| in 1982. The staff consisted of 22 full time research and
| support people, as well as 10 consultants.
|
| >Our research has been motivated by our past experiences in
| the Logo Group at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory,
| where we worked with Seymour Papert and Marvin Minsky.
|
| >We wanted to get Logo out of the laboratory and into the
| world. We wanted to share it, and share its potential as a
| powerful too for thinking. And so before we joined Atari,
| many of us were part of the development team at Logo Computer
| Systems, where we designed, implemented, and documented Apple
| Logo.
|
| >When we finished Apple Logo, I left Logo Computer Systems. I
| wanted to get back to doing research. I contacted Alan Kay,
| who was Chief Scientist at Atari, and it turned out he was
| interested in setting up a research laboratory in Cambridge,
| near MIT.
|
| >He was familiar with our previous Logo research, and was
| enthusiastic about supporting our new work.
|
| >We began to explore the following areas:
|
| >We looked at was of controlling computers by gestures: by
| touch, by gross body movement.
|
| >We designed an object oriented Logo, and developed
| applications in it.
|
| >We built several mechanical devices to add new dimensions to
| computing environments.
|
| >We began to build tools toward a musical play station.
|
| >And as always, we continued our work with children.
|
| The other parts of this video and many more amazing historic
| videos are in Cynthia Solomon's youtube channel:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/user/cynthiaso/videos
|
| Atari Cambridge Research- part 2: Margaret Minsky, Danny
| Hillis, David Wallace (gumby!): a gestural system, touch
| screens, force sensitivity, painting, visual programming,
| button box inspired by Warren Robinett's "Rocky's Boots"
| program
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq6SQTVM9M
|
| Rocky's Boots:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky%27s_Boots
|
| Alan Kay on Rocky's Boots, Robot Odyssey, and visual
| programming:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17422497
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21899376
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17423040
|
| Atari Cambridge Research- part 3: Ed Hardebeck: a video body
| gestural system; QLogo: Gary Drescher, Jeremy Jones, Steven
| Hain
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClKQHgIoLPc
|
| Atari Cambridge Research- part 4: Michael Granfield:
| Choriographer's Workstation; Marionette Machine: Mark Gross;
| Max Bohensky: Force Feedback Joystick
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3qPCZ5z0UQ
|
| Atari Cambridge Research- part 5: Music Box: David Levitt
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwsVkqEKys
|
| Atari Cambridge Research- part 6: Music Box: Tom Trobaugh,
| Drum Machine: Jim Davis
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhA0FGsin_s
|
| Atari Cambridge Research- part 6: Marvin Minsky 1984 closing
| remarks
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rg4a18svBQ
|
| Another talk by Alan Kay from 1987:
|
| Alan Kay: Doing with Images Makes Symbols (Full Version)
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2LZLYcu_JY
___________________________________________________________________
(page generated 2021-11-21 23:01 UTC)