[HN Gopher] Scamspotter.org - Google and Cybercrime Support Netw...
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       Scamspotter.org - Google and Cybercrime Support Network Partnership
        
       Author : jumarm
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2021-11-19 15:52 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (scamspotter.org)
        
       | counternotions wrote:
       | Incredibly ironic that this is headlined by Google since they
       | perpetuate most online scams through SEO and AdWords, where they
       | refuse to investigate too deeply since it would negatively impact
       | their quarterly financials.
        
         | joe_the_user wrote:
         | The thing with Google is, the search-based model for
         | information finding itself is indeed what enables this but it's
         | what enables the Internet itself. There is no index-based
         | search engine that wouldn't be actively gamed by scammers.
         | Scamming is so profitable that one can say 99% of the Internet
         | "by flow" is fraud. And this results in Google being both the
         | enabler of and the wall that stands against scamming. Any
         | purely algorithmic approach to indexing obviously would be
         | taken over. The problem of gaming scammers would exist whether
         | you had Google or a competitive group of search engines. And
         | this situation makes concentration natural since the engine
         | that invests most in finding quality will return it most and so
         | it will be preferred by consumers.
         | 
         | And yes, Google itself is degenerating. I'm not sure what the
         | solution is. The Internet has incubated such an economy for
         | fraud, I imagine waking up and the whole thing will hacked.
        
       | flerovium wrote:
       | It's hard not to read "Cybercrime Support Network" as an org that
       | supports cybercriminals.
        
         | jbirer wrote:
         | A website that provides emotional support for those whose fraud
         | activities have not succeeded pushing them into depression.
        
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       | chrisMyzel wrote:
       | The much I dislike the G company they do a good job of
       | highlighting how to make spotting a scam easy...it feels like
       | first order principles to me...though it's a problem for many not
       | so "internet natives".
        
       | jumarm wrote:
       | This seems like a new initiative between Google and the CSN to
       | stop people from falling from scams that YouTubers like
       | Kitboga[0] and Jim Browning[1] like to expose.
       | 
       | The about page dives into the problem at hand:
       | https://scamspotter.org/about
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       | [0]: https://www.youtube.com/c/KitbogaShow
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       | [1]: https://www.youtube.com/c/JimBrowning
        
         | petee wrote:
         | Meanwhile pushing more scams on YouTube themselves -- I report
         | scam ad's once a day and most of them are back online within a
         | week.
         | 
         | The current ones are all targeting seniors offering "free"
         | money from the CARES act.
        
       | drekipus wrote:
       | Google better be on the hero redemption path. This seems like a
       | good move and could be using Google's powers for good?
        
       | goatsi wrote:
       | >If you get an unexpected phone call, hang up. Then look up the
       | bank, agency or organization that's supposedly calling and get in
       | touch directly.
       | 
       | They should really add a warning here not to use Google for this
       | unless they have an adblocker installed.
       | 
       | https://www.tomshardware.com/news/phishing-for-crypto-half-a...
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       | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-search...
        
         | praash wrote:
         | Wow, this takes Google's influence to a whole new level.
        
       | praash wrote:
       | This is a nice step for Google to promote scam awareness, but it
       | shifts the responsibility to the victims.
       | 
       | Google has an enormous role in enabling fraud and malware. They
       | reap huge profits from malicious advertising and it's been a
       | problem for more than a decade. Just about any fraud gets a good
       | amount of exposure before a takedown.
       | 
       | Google should do much more than slap their name on a campaign and
       | tell users to take care.
        
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