[HN Gopher] I ended up liking GNOME with the loss of one hand
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       I ended up liking GNOME with the loss of one hand
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 63 points
       Date   : 2021-11-14 04:01 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | PKop wrote:
       | Ended _up_ liking it? Or stopped liking it? I can 't understand
       | the title given the text of the post was blank (and confusing
       | when read in the comments here..)
        
         | belval wrote:
         | I read it as "ended up liking it", "ended liking it" does not
         | make a whole lot of sense as a native speaker would most likely
         | say "stopped liking it" instead.
        
           | PKop wrote:
           | >a native speaker would most likely say
           | 
           | But you could also assume the title and post was written by a
           | _non_ native speaker (which appears to be true), then you are
           | still confused.
        
         | Arnavion wrote:
         | It is indeed the former.
        
       | titaniumtown wrote:
       | Gnome is pretty good. Started using it again after a while of
       | using kde. I fell in love with it again. Really wish that the top
       | bar was used as a global menu like in MacOS though.
        
         | lights0123 wrote:
         | https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4114/fildem-global-me...
         | exists, but only kind of supports GNOME 40
        
         | still_grokking wrote:
         | But you know you can have a global menu out-of-the-box on KDE?
        
       | anthk wrote:
       | Mmmh...
       | 
       | CWM with a custom ~/.cwmrc with Super+left hand keys makes the
       | layout pretty usable.
       | 
       | Anyway, I hope she gets better.
        
       | tfolbrecht wrote:
       | https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1jm-iL...
        
       | dec0dedab0de wrote:
       | _I like having an hostile (desktop /shell/computer) environment
       | to stay sharp and not being stuck on ideas._
       | 
       | I really like this idea, it reminds me of something my dad used
       | to do, that I copied as much as I could. Whenever I drive
       | somewhere regularly, I try not to go the same way twice in a row.
       | As long as it doesn't add too much time, I will take a different
       | major road, or if that's not an option I'll take different side
       | roads.
        
       | llimllib wrote:
       | I recently fell and broke my right hand, and had to get screws in
       | it, so it was out of commission for 4 months or so (it's fine
       | now).
       | 
       | It was a giant pain in the butt. The best thing I found for OS X
       | was the `half-qwerty keyboard emulation (rev 2)`[1] Karabiner
       | plugin, that let me type with one hand by holding the space bar
       | to mirror the keyboard layout.
       | 
       | I got OK at it, but I went from my normal 100ish wpm down to an
       | error-filled 15wpm or so, which fundamentally changed the way I
       | work. It was very unpleasant and I don't recommend it.
       | 
       | I bet with more practice that I could have gotten up to 30ish wpm
       | one-handed, but thankfully I didn't have to do it for too long.
       | 
       | 1: https://ke-complex-modifications.pqrs.org/?q=qwerty
        
       | chris_wot wrote:
       | Strange... this makes it sound like they don't like Gnome, but
       | actually they ended _up_ liking Gnome.
        
       | SubiculumCode wrote:
       | Title suggests she stopped liking gnome, but its the opposite?
        
         | titaniumtown wrote:
         | Yea. That was very confusing.
        
           | jeroenhd wrote:
           | The author doesn't seem to be a native English speaker. She
           | probably meant "ended _up_ liking GNOME " rather than "ended
           | liking GNOME". Mistakes like these are easy to make as a non-
           | native speaker.
           | 
           | I don't know if the Gemini protocol (using which this article
           | seems to have been published) has a way to correct the title,
           | or if the author is even reading these comments.
        
         | markstos wrote:
         | It seems "ended _up_ liking Gnome " was intended, like "In the
         | end, I liked Gnome".
        
       | vorpalhex wrote:
       | This doesn't load right for me on mobile (even with desktop
       | mode). I am only getting the title.
        
         | janeroe wrote:
         | Same story on desktop. It shows all the stuff I didn't ask for
         | (pronouns, hobbies, etc.) but no actual content.
        
       | typon wrote:
       | Does this post appear empty for everyone?
        
         | marton78 wrote:
         | Only for those with two hands.
        
       | aerojoe23 wrote:
       | Did the site get hugged to death?
        
       | notRobot wrote:
       | Text of post:
       | 
       | How I ended liking GNOME                   Author: Solene
       | Date: 10 November 2021         Tags: life unix gnome
       | 
       | Introduction
       | 
       | Hi! This was a while without much activity on my blog, the reason
       | is that I stabbed through my right index with a knife by
       | accident, the injury was so bad I can barely use my right hand
       | because I couldn't move my index at all without pain. So I've
       | been stuck with only my left hand for a month now. Good news,
       | it's finally getting better :)
       | 
       | Which leads me to the topic of this article, why I ended liking
       | GNOME!
       | 
       | Why I didn't use GNOME
       | 
       | I will first start about why I didn't use it before. I like to
       | try everything all the time, I like disruption, I like having an
       | hostile (desktop/shell/computer) environment to stay sharp and
       | not being stuck on ideas.
       | 
       | My current setup was using Fvwm or Stumpwm, mostly keyboard
       | driven, with many virtual desktop to spatially regroup different
       | activities. However, with an injured hand, I've been facing a big
       | issue, most of my key binding were for two hands and it seemed
       | too weird for me to change the bindings to work with one hand.
       | 
       | I tried to adapt using only one hand, but I got poor results and
       | using the cursor was not very efficient because stumpwm is
       | hostile to cursor and fvwm is not really great for this either.
       | 
       | The road to GNOME
       | 
       | With only one hand to use my computer, I found the awesome
       | program ibus-typing-booster to help me typing by auto completing
       | words (a bit like on touchscreen phones), it worked out of the
       | box with GNOME due to the ibus integration working well. I used
       | GNOME to debug the package but ended liking it in my current
       | condition.
       | 
       | How do I like it now, while I was pestling about it a few months
       | ago as I found it very confusing? Because it's easy to use and
       | spared me movements with my hands, absolutely.
       | The activity menu is easy to browse, icons are big, dock is big.
       | I've been using a trackball with my left hand instead of the
       | usual right hand, aiming at a small task bar was super hard so I
       | was happy to have big icons everywhere, only when I wanted them
       | I actually always liked the alt+tab for windows and alt+2 (on my
       | keyboard the key up to TAB is 2, must be ~ for qwerty keyboards)
       | for switching into same kind of window         alt+tab actually
       | display everything available (it's not per virtual desktop)
       | I can easily view windows or move them between virtual desktop
       | when pressing "super" key
       | 
       | This is certainly doing in MATE or Xfce too without much work,
       | but it's out of the box with GNOME. It's perfectly usable without
       | knowing any keyboard shortcut.
       | 
       | Mixed feelings
       | 
       | I'm pretty sure I'll return to my previous environment once my
       | finger/hand because I have a better feeling with it and I find it
       | more usable. But I have to thanks the GNOME project to work on
       | this desktop environment that is easy to use and quite
       | accessible.
       | 
       | It's important to put into perspective when dealing with desktop
       | environment. GNOME may not be the most performing and ergonomic
       | desktop, but it's accessible, easy to use and forgiving people
       | who doesn't want to learn tons of key bindings or can't do them.
       | 
       | Conclusion
       | 
       | There is a very recurrent question I see on IRC or forums: what's
       | the best desktop environment/window manager? What are YOU using?
       | I stopped having a bold opinion about this topic, I simply reply
       | there are many desktop environments because they are many kind of
       | people and the person asking the question need to find the right
       | one to suiting them.
       | 
       | Update (2021-11-11)
       | 
       | Using the xfdashboard program and assigning it to Super key
       | allows to mimic the GNOME "activity" view in your favorite window
       | manager: choosing windows, moving them between desktops, running
       | applications. I think this can easily turn any window manager
       | into something more accessible, or at least "GNOME like".
        
       | Macha wrote:
       | Seems the content is broken on the web version, found you can
       | view the gemini version with a gemini to web proxy (e.g.
       | https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/perso.pw/blog/articles/how-I-e... )
        
         | drewg123 wrote:
         | I got a gateway timeout... If you have the text, can you post
         | it?
        
           | lelandbatey wrote:
           | Here's the original markdown, hosted as a Gist. The original
           | markdown came from thier RSS feed which seems to contain the
           | original markdown instead of HTML.
           | 
           | Gist of the contents: https://gist.github.com/lelandbatey/0d6
           | 99715405d9f1b61991f09...
           | 
           | RSS feed which contained the Markdown of the original:
           | https://dataswamp.org/~solene/rss.xml
        
           | notRobot wrote:
           | How I ended liking GNOME                   Author: Solene
           | Date: 10 November 2021         Tags: life unix gnome
           | 
           | Introduction
           | 
           | Hi! This was a while without much activity on my blog, the
           | reason is that I stabbed through my right index with a knife
           | by accident, the injury was so bad I can barely use my right
           | hand because I couldn't move my index at all without pain. So
           | I've been stuck with only my left hand for a month now. Good
           | news, it's finally getting better :)
           | 
           | Which leads me to the topic of this article, why I ended
           | liking GNOME!
           | 
           | Why I didn't use GNOME
           | 
           | I will first start about why I didn't use it before. I like
           | to try everything all the time, I like disruption, I like
           | having an hostile (desktop/shell/computer) environment to
           | stay sharp and not being stuck on ideas.
           | 
           | My current setup was using Fvwm or Stumpwm, mostly keyboard
           | driven, with many virtual desktop to spatially regroup
           | different activities. However, with an injured hand, I've
           | been facing a big issue, most of my key binding were for two
           | hands and it seemed too weird for me to change the bindings
           | to work with one hand.
           | 
           | I tried to adapt using only one hand, but I got poor results
           | and using the cursor was not very efficient because stumpwm
           | is hostile to cursor and fvwm is not really great for this
           | either.
           | 
           | The road to GNOME
           | 
           | With only one hand to use my computer, I found the awesome
           | program ibus-typing-booster to help me typing by auto
           | completing words (a bit like on touchscreen phones), it
           | worked out of the box with GNOME due to the ibus integration
           | working well. I used GNOME to debug the package but ended
           | liking it in my current condition.
           | 
           | How do I like it now, while I was pestling about it a few
           | months ago as I found it very confusing? Because it's easy to
           | use and spared me movements with my hands, absolutely.
           | The activity menu is easy to browse, icons are big, dock is
           | big. I've been using a trackball with my left hand instead of
           | the usual right hand, aiming at a small task bar was super
           | hard so I was happy to have big icons everywhere, only when I
           | wanted them         I actually always liked the alt+tab for
           | windows and alt+2 (on my keyboard the key up to TAB is 2,
           | must be ~ for qwerty keyboards) for switching into same kind
           | of window         alt+tab actually display everything
           | available (it's not per virtual desktop)         I can easily
           | view windows or move them between virtual desktop when
           | pressing "super" key
           | 
           | This is certainly doing in MATE or Xfce too without much
           | work, but it's out of the box with GNOME. It's perfectly
           | usable without knowing any keyboard shortcut.
           | 
           | Mixed feelings
           | 
           | I'm pretty sure I'll return to my previous environment once
           | my finger/hand because I have a better feeling with it and I
           | find it more usable. But I have to thanks the GNOME project
           | to work on this desktop environment that is easy to use and
           | quite accessible.
           | 
           | It's important to put into perspective when dealing with
           | desktop environment. GNOME may not be the most performing and
           | ergonomic desktop, but it's accessible, easy to use and
           | forgiving people who doesn't want to learn tons of key
           | bindings or can't do them.
           | 
           | Conclusion
           | 
           | There is a very recurrent question I see on IRC or forums:
           | what's the best desktop environment/window manager? What are
           | YOU using? I stopped having a bold opinion about this topic,
           | I simply reply there are many desktop environments because
           | they are many kind of people and the person asking the
           | question need to find the right one to suiting them.
           | 
           | Update (2021-11-11)
           | 
           | Using the xfdashboard program and assigning it to Super key
           | allows to mimic the GNOME "activity" view in your favorite
           | window manager: choosing windows, moving them between
           | desktops, running applications. I think this can easily turn
           | any window manager into something more accessible, or at
           | least "GNOME like".
        
       | _def wrote:
       | I like gnome 3 and use it for some years now. I sort of depend on
       | some extensions for my work flow of choice but I'm happy with it.
        
       | tombert wrote:
       | GNOME 3/Shell was something I hated with every fiber in my body
       | until someone told me to actually give it a chance. They said
       | "don't compare it to Windows, don't compare it to macOS, don't
       | compare it to Gnome 2, just try and learn its idioms and go from
       | there".
       | 
       | It turns out, at least for me, he was 100% right. I grew to
       | _really_ like Gnome after I dropped all preconceived notions
       | about what it was supposed to be. I ended up loving the fact that
       | the number of virtual desktops is dynamic, I ended up really
       | liking how much could be done without a mouse, and I ended up
       | being kind of surprised how it was both pretty _and_ fast on my
       | (admittedly fairly beefy) laptop.
       | 
       | I use macOS right now dude to the fact that I got it at a
       | discount, but the next computer I buy will probably be a Linux
       | machine, and it will probably be running Gnome.
        
         | smoldesu wrote:
         | GNOME 3 is truly phenomenal, not enough people give it credit
         | for being a nearly perfect touchscreen OS with powerful desktop
         | options front-and-center. By comparison, the new GNOME 40
         | release feels like a lazy attempt at trying to be MacOS, which
         | is _definitely_ not what GNOME meant to me. Now that the
         | majority of extensions are broken again, it 's even harder to
         | tune it for my personal workflow. I had to ditch it for KDE,
         | unfortunately. I hope they head in a more interface-agnostic
         | approach, for the future.
        
         | Vinnl wrote:
         | Generally I find this to be a rewarding strategy for
         | approaching digital interfaces: try to understand what the
         | designer was going for, and go with the flow. Often it works
         | quite well, and while a small deviation might be more similar
         | to what you are used to, the friction it causes with other
         | parts of the interface can offset those benefits.
        
       | dEnigma wrote:
       | For people with Gemini clients, this URL works:
       | 
       | gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/how-I-ended-liking-gnome.gmi
        
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