[HN Gopher] Optical storage - the future of long term data prese...
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Optical storage - the future of long term data preservation (2015)
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Author : dsego
Score : 19 points
Date : 2021-11-12 09:44 UTC (2 days ago)
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| jeffbee wrote:
| What is the utility of cloud computing for archivists? Is it too
| expensive? It seems like the longevity is fairly proven at this
| point. If you put something in S3 in 2006, it's still there. GCS
| was launched over ten years ago, too. With a multi-cloud strategy
| you could probably make the case for durability, certainly as a
| 2nd or 3rd replica that just happens to be dramatically more
| convenient than optical discs.
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| Considering that many government records are now produced in the
| cloud anyway, it makes a certain sense. USGS elevation models for
| example are hosted on S3. Are they also on tape somewhere else?
| rbanffy wrote:
| > Are they also on tape somewhere else?
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| I can assure you they are and that there must be a number of
| copies available for use on any respectable supercomputer.
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| It just may be that the canonical source of the data is,
| officially, the cloud and that they release the data by
| uploading it.
| quercusa wrote:
| I worked in optical storage in the 90s. Then and now, the storage
| technology of the future!
| nayuki wrote:
| When the Compact Disc was released, the data capacity was way
| more than typical hard drives for many years. But by the time
| DVD rolled around, HDDs became denser and cheaper than optical
| storage could ever be.
| lehi wrote:
| Page 13 prompts some questions. 128GB BDXL is positioned before
| the document's publishing year of 2015, but doesn't appear to
| have actually been released until 2017. The multi-TB discs
| extrapolated out to present day seem to still be vaporware. Why
| did advances in high-capacity bit-rot-resistant optical media
| apparently stall?
| lastbitwritten wrote:
| Downloading 100gb games over the internet became a thing, and
| h264 and h265 were efficient enough to prevent consumer video
| needing anything much larger than blu-ray.
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| Sony ODA is a thing, and uses 11 600gb discs in a compact
| cartridge to give around 6tb per cartridge.
| rbanffy wrote:
| I do not expect large-capacity optical media to become
| available for consumer use, but A 100GB BDXL can archive only
| 6 minutes of 8K video at 60 fps from a RED, so I would assume
| high-end visual production would want something better than
| 100GB per disk.
| throw63738 wrote:
| CDRs are most reliable way to backup important documents for
| several years.
| jeffbee wrote:
| Compared to microfilm? Surely not.
| nayuki wrote:
| The joke might be "several" years.
| rbanffy wrote:
| Clay tablets are still the gold standard for durability ;-)
| alliao wrote:
| I got some 25GB bluray to record family photos, I do cull rather
| ruthlessly though.
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