[HN Gopher] White Collar Holler - Stan Rogers
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       White Collar Holler - Stan Rogers
        
       Author : Phithagoras
       Score  : 87 points
       Date   : 2021-11-10 18:44 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | rtkaratekid wrote:
       | What a good holler!
        
       | hprotagonist wrote:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA
       | 
       |  _code monkey think maybe manager wanna write goddamn login page
       | himself
       | 
       | code monkey not say it / out loud
       | 
       | code monkey not crazy / just proud_
        
         | cobertos wrote:
         | Heh, this is pretty good. Can't help but notice this is 15
         | years old though
        
         | a2tech wrote:
         | That video is from a better time on the Internet. A simpler,
         | warmer time. Not to say it was a good time..but a better, less
         | terrible internet than todays.
        
           | bjt2n3904 wrote:
           | JoCo's album "Solid State" deals with this topic, it's a
           | great listen.
        
         | NikolaeVarius wrote:
         | IMO this version better
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W_wd9Qf0IE
        
           | handrous wrote:
           | That versions so good that I years ago head-canon'd it as the
           | official video. I don't usually care for "AMV" stuff, but
           | that one's perfect.
        
             | hprotagonist wrote:
             | all hail the one true AMV
             | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziR6oGCUnHQ
             | 
             | downloaded with painfully slow speed, on kazaa, in 2001,
             | overnight.
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | Any love for _Nerdy Boys_?
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/QYRpgM5rILc
        
           | smoldesu wrote:
           | Nah, we're all bumping _Nrrrd Grrrls_ instead.
           | 
           | https://youtu.be/gzt7jP5XOtM
        
       | bloat wrote:
       | Some nice Unix synthy indie-pop:
       | 
       | Barcelona - I Have The Password To Your Shell Account
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWVGdMPuwVo
       | 
       | From the album "Zero, One, Infinity".
        
       | Guidii wrote:
       | This is on my "SW Dev songlist" ever since my CS professors
       | (Robin Dawes and James Cordy) ran a singalong event in CISC
       | 200/210.
       | 
       | Others include "Under the wings of a transistor"[1] and "The
       | Privacy Song"[2]. Also "The System Administrator Song"[3]
       | 
       | Also codemonkey, but others have mentioned that one already.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfpYgts-18o [2]
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eIUOUfhoJ8 [3]
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaIhKBYjTXA
        
       | seniorsassycat wrote:
       | Stan Rogers has a knack for writing songs that sound older than
       | himself, this song shows he doesn't need nautical themes to do
       | it.
       | 
       | Some other programming and math songs Kill -9
       | 
       | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0rG74rG_ubs
       | 
       | Find the longest path
       | 
       | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ww0gwEszo
        
         | cf100clunk wrote:
         | "had" and "didn't". Poor guy died in an airliner taxiway fire
         | in the 1980s. Anyways, Stan Rogers on HN? Who knew?
        
       | a2tech wrote:
       | A true classic. If you like this, his other music is also great.
       | Sadly he died in 1983 in Ohio of all places in a plane..on the
       | ground, in a fire.
        
         | stinkytaco wrote:
         | Legend has it he actually escaped the fire, but died running
         | back in to save people. He seems like the kind of figure that
         | lends himself to larger than life tales, however, so I've never
         | bothered to confirm or debunk that story.
        
       | raldi wrote:
       | Lyrics: https://genius.com/Stan-rogers-white-collar-holler-lyrics
        
       | 1-more wrote:
       | VDT Blues by Tom Juravich[0]. "It's a hell to earn a livin' on a
       | [video display terminal]." This album made me the way I am, I
       | think. More so "One Day More" by Elaine Purkey[1]
       | 
       | [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1HnsbW3WVg
       | 
       | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohBUT8FKh3g
        
       | Igelau wrote:
       | I love Stan Rogers, but it's worth pointing out this particular
       | song was actually written by Nigel Russell. (Source: liner notes
       | from _Between the Breaks... Live!_ )
        
       | nsedlet wrote:
       | Barrett's Privateers is fantastic if you haven't heard it
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIwzRkjn86w
       | 
       | I've always thought of it as a good metaphor for joining a doomed
       | startup
        
         | slavik81 wrote:
         | I was just debating with a friend whether that or the Northwest
         | Passage was his more popular song. https://youtu.be/TVY8LoM47xI
         | 
         | We also learned there was a recent power metal cover by Unleash
         | The Archers, which rather surprised me.
         | https://youtu.be/XRD3vrSLPaw
        
       | notfbi wrote:
       | A classic C Shanty.
        
         | a2tech wrote:
         | _golf clap_
        
       | 52-6F-62 wrote:
       | Crazy to see Stan Rogers on here. I know he had a large sphere of
       | influence, but still wild.
       | 
       | I moved down to his old stomping grounds in Dundas, Ontario at
       | the start of the year and if anyone ever visits you'll quickly
       | understand how the area could be a great inspiration for folk
       | (and other) artists.
       | 
       | If you're in Ontario and you enjoy hiking, it's a worthy stop.
       | 
       | (Maybe off topic, But while I'm here... a couple of other Dundas
       | musical staples: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T1tVvQUAcf4
       | 
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Snaith )
        
         | 52-6F-62 wrote:
         | Thought I should add that his son is also a performer. I think
         | he may still live in the area, but I'm not sure. Never met him.
         | 
         | Also of Dundas as of late is John Ellison ( _Some Kind of
         | Wonderful_ )
        
       | TrispusAttucks wrote:
       | ytcracker - the link (*bit nerdcore zelda dubstep)
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhebl9oD5Lc
       | 
       | ytcracker - meganerd
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6zuFDDvjVk
       | 
       | YTcracker - #Antisec (With Lyrics) | cc0de
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyBIpqZcNI
       | 
       | ytcracker - Bitcoin Baron [Support Internet Freedom]
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZfg1Gtcg08
       | 
       | YTCRACKER - IMPRISONED BY THE SYNDICATE + WELCOME TO SAN
       | SECUESTRO (FULL COLOR)
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ot2FFc_Qq4
       | 
       | Epic Rap Battle: Nerd vs. Geek
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tvy_Pbe5NA
       | 
       | Full Stack D - My CV
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn4ZlbZZiUM
        
       | ugh123 wrote:
       | Song is surprisingly relevant. Lyrics left in a comment:
       | Well, I rise up every morning at a quarter to eight
       | Some woman who's my wife tells me not to be late             I
       | kiss the kids goodbye, I can't remember their names
       | And week after week, it's always the same             And it's
       | Ho, boys, can't you code it, and program it right
       | Nothing ever happens in the life of mine             I'm hauling
       | up the data on the Xerox line             Then it's code in the
       | data, give the keyboard a punch             Then cross-correlate
       | and break for some lunch             Correlate, tabulate, process
       | and screen             Program, printout, regress to the mean
       | Then it's home again, eat again, watch some TV             Make
       | love to my woman at ten-fifty-three             I dream the same
       | dream when I'm sleeping at night             I'm soaring over
       | hills like an eagle in flight             Someday I'm gonna give
       | up all the buttons and things             I'll punch that time
       | clock till it can't ring             Burn up my necktie and set
       | myself free             Cause no'one's gonna fold, bend or
       | mutilate me
        
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       | helpfulmandrill wrote:
       | On this particular Friday, I feel this could have been written
       | personally for me...
        
       | curiousgal wrote:
       | If you're into rap/hip-hop:
       | 
       | https://youtube.com/watch?v=psw9G9Lp7ac
       | 
       | The entire channel is a gold mine
       | 
       | https://youtube.com/c/stdout/videos
        
       | whynotkeithberg wrote:
       | I've never listened to Stan Rogers... Thank you for sharing this.
       | Enjoyed it much and gave me a new rabbit hole to explore.
        
       | bufordtwain wrote:
       | Nice song. I went down a bit of a rabbit hole on this and in case
       | anyone else is interested, here is the NTSB report on the
       | airplane fire "of undetermined origin" that killed Stan Rogers at
       | the age of 33:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20060322014736/http://www.airdis....
        
       | leto_ii wrote:
       | Being used to hear Stan Rogers' voice sing about privateers,
       | whalers and other such things, at first this song felt odd.
       | 
       | After a bit of thought though, I realize there's no reason why
       | that should be the case. Ours is a real life experience that,
       | while not physically demanding or adventurous, isn't less worthy
       | of being captured in song. We have our own experiences of
       | drudgery, adversity, camaraderie that have gone mostly unsung.
       | Thank God we at least had Stan Rogers.
        
         | booleandilemma wrote:
         | I've had both white collar jobs and a blue collar job and I
         | experienced more camaraderie while at the blue collar one.
         | 
         | I think it was created by an us vs them mentality (where "them"
         | is management).
         | 
         | We would be out in the field under all weather conditions while
         | management would call and give us orders over the phone from a
         | comfy, climate-controlled office, and then go back to Skyping
         | other office workers (or whatever app it was at the time).
         | 
         | With each of my white collar jobs I've had a boss but he sits
         | down the hall from me and we both sit at desks and eat at the
         | same places. There's less separation, but there's also less
         | camaraderie among my team.
        
           | lapetitejort wrote:
           | I've had blue collar jobs and there is indeed a strong sense
           | of camaraderie. However, if you're not included in this
           | camaraderie for any reason (don't like sports, certain foods,
           | views on certain topics, quiet type that doesn't react well
           | to jokes) it can be hell. I've never felt included in any of
           | my workplaces. I hated watching all of my coworkers jabber
           | for hours on end without me. I hated not being included in
           | after-work activities. With the few work friends I've had,
           | any rift on either end made the relationship unbearable. But
           | now working from home, my friends are friends and my
           | coworkers are coworkers. I never want to two to meet again.
        
           | leto_ii wrote:
           | > I experienced more camaraderie while at the blue collar
           | one.
           | 
           | I've never had blue collar jobs, but I've always suspected
           | that was the case. I think there's less of a "class"
           | consciousness among office workers. We feel like we're
           | better, privileged - why, if we apply ourselves maybe one day
           | we'll get to be bosses and billionaires too. We just have to
           | meritocratically outcompete our peers...
           | 
           | Working folk know better...
        
         | stan_rogers wrote:
         | I have to warn you, though, that not all Stans Rogers are
         | pleasant to listen to. I come from a family full of 'em. Might
         | I suggest Garnet or Nathan as an alternative?
        
         | bjt2n3904 wrote:
         | Right on. A lot of sea shanty music in general (like Leave her
         | Johnny) focuses on the hardships of life and difficulties with
         | higher ups and martial relationships -- and what I love about
         | this song is it takes the soul of a sea shanty and puts it to
         | the "tune" of Office Space.
        
         | 0xbadcafebee wrote:
         | It's probably not surprising that there aren't more songs about
         | white collar work. It's such unrewarding, safe, monotonous
         | drivel. Maybe because we're all too embarrassed to try to
         | romanticize it, and too depressed to make art out of it.
        
           | krick wrote:
           | If you ask me about "songs about white collar work", first
           | thing that comes to my mind is this[0] (it's a cover, but I
           | like this one better). It isn't about white collar work, of
           | course, but white collar work is all about that song, I feel.
           | And blue collar and whatever else -- it's all about that
           | song. The difference is that "blue collar" is about that song
           | _and a little bit of something else_ -- like, you know,
           | "being out in the field under all weather conditions". That's
           | where the romanticism comes from. While "white collar" is
           | _only_ about that song. And pretending you didn 't hear it,
           | daily.
           | 
           | [0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f3BmvVhtW4
        
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