[HN Gopher] Experiencing History in Assassin's Creed
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       Experiencing History in Assassin's Creed
        
       Author : drdee
       Score  : 41 points
       Date   : 2021-11-10 03:00 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | ordiel wrote:
       | TL;DR
       | 
       | Assassin's Creed games were good and historically accurate untill
       | they got the original creators out (and Desmond dies) From there
       | onwards is pure shit intended to sell games to button-smasher
       | type of players....
        
       | speps wrote:
       | Very good series there on History Respawned channel:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9h3p5Efa4&list=PL6MyHOj463...
        
       | lapetitejort wrote:
       | Discovery Mode would be one of the killer apps of cloud gaming.
       | Give a license to schools to allow students to stream any of the
       | games on their cheap laptops. Yes, schools would still have to
       | surmount the network load, or students couldn't stream from home,
       | etc etc. Just imagine you're walking through a semi-historical
       | 2020's America with anachronistic good internet.
        
         | cblconfederate wrote:
         | Discovery mode should have multiplayer with in-world chat, a
         | roleplaying environment. In fact i wonder why they did not
         | release it as such.
        
           | jonny_eh wrote:
           | You're wondering why they didn't put hundreds of hours of
           | engineering work into a mode that makes them no money?
           | 
           | I'm personally grateful they made this mode at all.
        
           | lapetitejort wrote:
           | I could see modern historical reenactments (such as Civil War
           | battles) moving online, with younger, more MMO-steeped
           | players willing to roleplay as Private #12 who dies during
           | the initial volley.
        
             | hhh wrote:
             | ARMA thrives in this area, and a recent expansion to ARMA
             | 3: S.O.G. Prairie Fire is a great entry point for those who
             | don't play milsim games typically. There's a beautifully
             | crafted campaign that is designed as coop first, and was
             | made with input from former US Special Forces MACV-SOG
             | members.
             | 
             | Outside of this example, the community has scenarios like
             | Antistasi, which is a dynamic gamemode that consists of two
             | factions fighting to control a region, and your third
             | insurgent force taking over. No scripted events, just AI
             | making tactical decisions in response to your actions. The
             | most predictable things are QRFs and increasing attacks on
             | your positions as your war levels increase.
             | 
             | I have never had a session of Antistasi turn out similarly,
             | other than people attaching to the roles they love
             | (pilot,engineer,medic,etc.) Mods increase this to a next-
             | level experience with TFAR for radio simulation, ACE for
             | improved ballistics and medical systems, etc. There is a
             | LOT to find, from WW2 to present day.
             | 
             | There are other more roleplay style servers, and I had a
             | blast creating execution videos of in-game politicians and
             | carbombing city squares on a roleplay server in 2014 or so
             | as the Islamic State.
             | 
             | Great fun, great skills you can learn here (I learned a LOT
             | about logistics and communications from ARMA, Foxhole, and
             | Squad.) Game actually runs decently now too.
        
         | watwut wrote:
         | I would prefer the schools to teach kids difference between
         | fiction and reality. And to teach them to be careful about
         | taking fiction as source of historical reality.
        
           | cblconfederate wrote:
           | A lot of the history they are being taught is in any case
           | fiction.
        
             | goomyman wrote:
             | Critical race theory in a nutshell.
        
               | watwut wrote:
               | You don't even know what it is.
        
           | jonny_eh wrote:
           | > taking fiction as source of historical reality
           | 
           | As opposed to all those reliable primary sources our concept
           | of history is based on?
        
             | Angostura wrote:
             | There are many good historical prmarty sources - yes.
        
           | mhh__ wrote:
           | They won't care about anything you say if you don't grab
           | their attention first.
           | 
           | Ancient Greece in a little cartoon in a history textbook is
           | boring, running around ancient Greece being spoonfed a little
           | classics is fun and visually appealing.
        
             | watwut wrote:
             | Ancient Greece history is boring, because it is so absurdly
             | superficial and unreal. And pointless. Most of what people
             | imagine as ancient history is closer to myth making then
             | history anyway.
             | 
             | And creating in them completely wrong idea about how it
             | functioned may he fun, but I would preferred to skip whole
             | topic if you have to do that. Boring but at least sorta
             | true is better then cool but mostly elaborate diorama.
        
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