[HN Gopher] Sono Motors F-1
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       Sono Motors F-1
        
       Author : lando2319
       Score  : 9 points
       Date   : 2021-11-08 18:55 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | slownews45 wrote:
       | Wow.
       | 
       | Zero revenue.
       | 
       | $50M per year run rate on loses
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       | And already IPO ready.
       | 
       | haha.
        
       | wffurr wrote:
       | The solar panels seem like a gimmick. Way less power than a
       | rooftop installation. It might make some sense for an occasional
       | car user like me. Most of the time my Bolt sits in the driveway,
       | charged, waiting to be used.
       | 
       | But for a commuter or daily user, it seems silly. You'll be
       | unplugged away from the house most of the day and grid-charging
       | overnight. Maybe you get a bit of extra power in the battery from
       | the panels, but I'd rather have a cheaper vehicle that didn't
       | have them.
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       | There's some other weird stuff in their Wikipedia entry, like a
       | moss (!) based air filtration system.
       | 
       | It also seems bold to have a public offering when they've never
       | even shipped a vehicle to a customer.
       | 
       | Is this a real thing? What's the story here?
        
         | mikestew wrote:
         | The solar panel roof bullshit again? I should make this a
         | keyboard macro, as often as some vaporware EV car company says
         | they're going to put a solar panel on the roof (rather than
         | something useful, like a moonroof).
         | 
         | Assume an equivalent to a 200W panel on top (though I'd
         | consider it fortunate if someone could pull off even 100W).
         | Five hours in direct sunlight in optimal conditions will give
         | you a kilowatt hour (kWh). That will carry our '11 Nissan Leaf
         | four (yes, the number 4) whole miles...after five hours in the
         | sun. If you live near the equator, and within a couple miles of
         | your workplace, then a Sonos vehicle might be for you! If you
         | live in the Pacific Northwest and don't live next door to work,
         | can I interest you in a lightly used 2011 Nissan Leaf?
         | 
         | Sonos seems to have even gone all-in on the solar thing. "Solar
         | instead of paint", "powered by the sun", which just says to me,
         | "don't look really hard at the details of our offering. Look!
         | Solar panels!"
        
         | mangecoeur wrote:
         | > It also seems bold to have a public offering when they've
         | never even shipped a vehicle to a customer.
         | 
         | Rivian did the same thing and everyone seems to be creaming
         | themselves over it.
        
           | stefan_ wrote:
           | I guess the Rivian at least has some theoretical appeal?
           | 
           | Like, here the plan is to build a shitbox that isn't
           | competitive on the market even 2 years ago.
        
           | wffurr wrote:
           | I think there's a bunch of real-life Rivians out there
           | driving around, aren't there?
           | 
           | Anyway, "someone else did it", doesn't seem like a ringing
           | endorsement...
        
         | erik_seaberg wrote:
         | They cited apartments as a target market; no garage means no
         | charging.
         | 
         | Unfortunately they're talking about 112 km per _week_ , which
         | just doesn't seem like a solution.
        
         | quequeque wrote:
         | From their website, the moss is not living and should be
         | replaced at the same time as the air filtration system.
         | 
         | https://sonomotors.com/en/faq/innovations/
        
       | stefan_ wrote:
       | The vaporware lives on.
        
         | djanogo wrote:
         | Seems more like "Stock Photo Motors", can't believe we are in a
         | economy where company's like this can IPO.
        
       | lgleason wrote:
       | Related :)
       | 
       | https://www.theonion.com/species-of-blue-green-algae-announc...
        
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