[HN Gopher] The Dalles sues to keep Google's water use a secret
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       The Dalles sues to keep Google's water use a secret
        
       Author : mountaineer
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2021-11-01 20:08 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.oregonlive.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.oregonlive.com)
        
       | EastOfTruth wrote:
       | A trade secret, they claim.
        
       | advisedwang wrote:
       | The Dalles is on the Columbia river; is Google not able to use
       | the river water for cooling? (presumably with a closed secondary
       | loop).
        
         | Accujack wrote:
         | Legally, they can not directly use the river. Diversion of
         | federally protected rivers in any amount is surrounded by a
         | huge amount of paperwork and even more transparency
         | requirements and public comment periods than what they're
         | trying to do with The Dalles.
         | 
         | Of course, even if they could do that they'd face opposition
         | for potentially polluting the river, raising its temperature,
         | and diverting water in some amount from a scarce resource.
         | 
         | Google needs to learn to air cool.
        
           | j_walter wrote:
           | You can't air cool the kind of heat they have. Evaporative
           | cooling towers will always be needed.
        
       | rolph wrote:
       | I cant see why this would remain a secret number.
       | 
       | total municipal water usage - everyone elses water usage ==
       | g00gles water usage.
        
       | AlbertCory wrote:
       | Can anyone spot the problem here?
       | 
       |  _The Dalles sought to understand such issues through three
       | Google-funded studies on the city's water system, according to
       | Anderson, which provided a clear understanding of the aquifer's
       | capacity even though it didn't provide firm information on its
       | boundaries._
        
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