[HN Gopher] The Iridium Museum
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       The Iridium Museum
        
       Author : fortran77
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2021-10-27 23:38 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.iridiummuseum.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.iridiummuseum.com)
        
       | yardie wrote:
       | I will say that calling my family from the middle of the Atlantic
       | Ocean on Thanksgiving is what I consider the hardest flex so far
       | in my life. There are large swaths of this planet where internet
       | and phone service simply does not exist and I am grateful that a
       | boondoggle such as Iridium exists at all. And the DoD agrees they
       | are a major investor, somehow.
        
       | dtgriscom wrote:
       | My only experience of Iridium was watching heavens-above.com-
       | predicted Iridium flares. Watching carefully in the hours after
       | dusk, you'd see a faint moving dot get brighter and brighter, all
       | the way up to magnitude 8 at times, and then fading away. Lasted
       | about 20 seconds, and very cool.
        
       | JoeDaDude wrote:
       | Nothing in the museum about the collision of an Iridium satellite
       | with a non-operating Russian satellite in 2009[1]. The collision
       | was big news in the space community at the time and got people
       | thinking about Kessler syndrome [2] more seriously.
       | 
       | [1]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_satellite_collision
       | 
       | [2]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome
        
         | lowkey_ wrote:
         | I saw the mention of that event on the museum homepage
         | actually, and it links here:
         | https://www.iridiummuseum.com/exhibits/building-a-sustainabl...
        
       | jonathankoren wrote:
       | Back in 1999, I was working with for Motorola and knew some
       | people working on Iridium. When Iridium declared bankruptcy,
       | there was serious talk about deorbiting the entire constellation
       | and smashing all the equipment in the test labs, as is the
       | fashion in bankruptcy write-offs.[0]
       | 
       | I managed to get someone to rescue a test phone from the lab for
       | me. He could have gotten fired for it, but he gave me Accelerated
       | Life Test Unit 1, a first gen handset[1]. It came with a battery,
       | the little tripod for holding the phone when tethered to a laptop
       | for blazing 2.4 kbps satellite data, but no simcard.
       | 
       | It sits on a shelf at my parents' house.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/11/business/iridium-
       | bankrupt...
       | 
       | [1] https://i.imgur.com/CQEhNEy.jpg
        
       | labria wrote:
       | This is also a museum of 90s website design ;)
        
         | throaway46546 wrote:
         | It probably works well over low bandwidth satellite internet.
        
         | elliottcarlson wrote:
         | I worked on the Iridium website (via an agency I worked at) in
         | 2001 -- it was quite the upgrade from their old site at the
         | time, but still had the narrow, center aligned design of the
         | 90's. Unfortunately that homepage remained their homepage for
         | almost 6 years after that.
        
         | GoodbyeMrChips wrote:
         | You say that like it is a bad thing!
         | 
         | It's lightweight, has the information I need with no spammy
         | advertisements.... yet has a quirky, slightly fun design. Looks
         | good to me!
         | 
         | EDIT: And best of all, it isn't optimised for a sodding 15 x 7
         | cm screen!
        
         | wdfx wrote:
         | Meaning that it loads quickly, doesn't mess up scrolling or
         | history, has no paywall or obnoxious popups etc etc... ?
        
       | jpgvm wrote:
       | Iridium is a reminder of the sheer might of Motorola at their
       | peak and also the sheer folly of their management.
       | 
       | The constellation was literal decades ahead of its time, they
       | were mass-producing satellites before the concept of a mega-
       | constellation was even on anyone's radar. Pretty much everything
       | about it was technically amazing.
       | 
       | Unfortunately it was probably a contributing factor in putting
       | Motorola under.
       | 
       | There is probably a timeline where Motorola doesn't collapse and
       | space tech is accelerated by multiple decades as a result.
        
         | jdonaldson wrote:
         | This was way more impressive to me than the invention of the
         | internet IMHO.
        
         | dave78 wrote:
         | > Unfortunately it was probably a contributing factor in
         | putting Motorola under.
         | 
         | What do you mean by this? Motorola is alive and doing
         | reasonably well.
        
           | causi wrote:
           | Dude Motorola doesn't even exist anymore. At its height
           | Motorola had 150,000 employees. After it imploded in 2011,
           | Lenovo bought the mobile brand name and what was left is now
           | Motorola Solutions, a telecom company with 18,000 employees
           | that's losing a billion dollars a year. I don't see how a
           | company that's fifty thousand dollars a year _per employee_
           | in the red can be doing well.
        
             | dave78 wrote:
             | As another commenter pointed out, you are misinformed
             | regarding Motorola Solutions' profitability.
             | 
             | As far as 150,000->18,000 employees, that's primarily
             | because Motorola spun off/sold off so many business units
             | (ON Semi, GD Decision Systems, Freescale, Continental,
             | Cambium, Zebra, and of course the split with Motorola
             | Mobility). Most of these spinoffs exist today and are
             | successful. As to whether spinning them off was a good idea
             | or not, I can't really say, but the idea that Motorola has
             | imploded or ceased to exist is just wrong.
        
             | jasode wrote:
             | _> what was left is now Motorola Solutions, a telecom
             | company with 18,000 employees that's losing a billion
             | dollars a year._
             | 
             | Fyi... I just looked up the 2020 10-K and 2021 2Q results
             | for Motorola Solutions and it says they are profitable.
             | $949 million in earnings in 2020.
             | 
             | It looks the other company spun off as Motorola Mobility
             | cellphones was losing money in 2011.
             | 
             | https://sec.report/Document/0000068505-21-000008#:~:text=Th
             | e....
             | 
             | https://newsroom.motorolasolutions.com/news/motorola-
             | solutio...
        
           | jpgvm wrote:
           | The Motorola you are familiar with is a shadow of its former
           | self.
           | 
           | It was an absolute titan in it's heyday, they basically
           | created the modern electronics manufacturing ecosystem
           | (especially in China). Developed a huge number of products
           | across a whole number of industries. They were dominant in
           | radio but were also damn good at all sorts of things,
           | designed their own CPUs (some of the most loved CPUs of all
           | time actually), the Apple Lisa and Macintosh both ran on
           | Motorola CPUs, hell even the Next Cube used a Motorola chip.
           | 
           | A modern equivalent would be Apple, except only if Apple was
           | about 10-20 years ahead of everyone else.
           | 
           | The collapse of Motorola was very much on the scale of
           | present day Apple going bankrupt.
        
           | T-A wrote:
           | That's Motorola Solutions.
           | 
           | The Motorola of old was broken up in 2011, into Motorola
           | Mobility (for consumer products, including phones) + Motorola
           | Solutions (professional products) + a cell network division
           | which was sold to Nokia Siemens Networks.
           | 
           | Motorola Mobility is the one most likely known by the average
           | person. It was bought by Google in 2012, then sold on to
           | Lenovo in 2014. Its main legacy these days is the Moto line
           | of phones.
        
         | aksss wrote:
         | "There's probably a timeline where" = "wouldn't it be fun to
         | imagine if things were different and turned out differently?",
         | but with a gossamer covering of adulthood, right?
        
       | henvic wrote:
       | They didn't even try to hide the fact that they're stuck in the
       | 90s.
        
       | akozak wrote:
       | Eccentric Orbits is a really great book about their history,
       | especially the near de-orbit with lots of fun tidbits about their
       | fundraising and US gov response.
       | 
       | https://www.amazon.com/Eccentric-Orbits-Iridium-John-Bloom/d...
        
       | diek wrote:
       | This is a fun blast from the past.
       | 
       | My dad was one of the "original six" engineers that worked on
       | Iridium within Motorola, so my 90s childhood was filled with
       | Iridium posters and satellite footprint tracking software.
       | 
       | I've mentioned it previously here when talking about SpaceX and
       | Starlink. Iridium launched with satellite-to-satellite links.
       | None of this "bent pipe" stuff where the satellite can only route
       | between itself and a ground station in its same coverage area. As
       | long as you could talk to an Iridium satellite, your data could
       | be routed _in orbit_ to its destination along those inter-
       | satellite links.
        
         | jpgvm wrote:
         | Iridium was nothing short of an engineering marvel. Your dad
         | must be a pretty badass engineer.
        
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