[HN Gopher] Ask HN: Meta Question Does FAANG Become Maang or Manga?
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       Ask HN: Meta Question Does FAANG Become Maang or Manga?
        
       Any other ideas on the new name?
        
       Author : kbendyk
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2021-10-28 21:50 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
       | deeblering4 wrote:
       | I say shuffle companies around until it's BANANA
        
         | hihihihi1234 wrote:
         | Brb - starting a company whose name begins with "B"
        
           | ASalazarMX wrote:
           | [B]oogle
        
       | vgchh wrote:
       | MAAMAN
       | 
       | - Microsoft Amazon Alphabet Meta Apple Netflix
        
         | victorbstan wrote:
         | NAA(H)MAN
        
       | biscottigelato wrote:
       | I have no idea why FAANG is still a thing. Of the trillion
       | dollars companies, Meta/FB is no longer one of them. Netflix no
       | idea how they even got part of the league.
       | 
       | Should be ATAMA - Apple, Tesla, Amazon, Microsoft, Alphabet.
       | 
       | But really, it will be BTS - Bitcoin, Tesla and SpaceX. The $10T
       | club.
        
         | tmp_anon_22 wrote:
         | Netflix has a reputation for providing high up front
         | compensation packages instead of equity and other compensation
         | models. For this reason it gets lumped into the larger
         | technology companies with vastly higher head counts. FANNG is
         | largely a descriptor of compensation levels.
        
       | myowz wrote:
       | G already became alphabet, no one cared right?
        
         | akomtu wrote:
         | G identifies as alphabet, but masses keep deadnaming it. And if
         | corporations are people, G should be able to sue and cancel
         | people (all of them).
        
         | endisneigh wrote:
         | G is not alphabet. Alphabet is a holding company, of which G is
         | a 'bet'
        
       | rossdavidh wrote:
       | Or GNAAM, pronounced like 'nam, the way some Americans refer to
       | the Vietnam war.
       | 
       | If G -> A (for Alphabet), then it's NAAAM
        
         | nostrademons wrote:
         | Or MAAAN, which has more of a ring to it.
        
       | rsj_hn wrote:
       | Naw, I doubt "meta" will take off in the public consciousness.
       | "Facebook" is already too well known.
        
         | endisneigh wrote:
         | it will. they're even changing their ticker from FB
        
         | kbendyk wrote:
         | You're absolutely right, as myowz pointed out, it was ignored
         | with G/Alphabet, but it would funnily confusing to say "He
         | works for a MANGA (or MAAAN) company" to someone...
        
       | etiam wrote:
       | Some people started early on this one in the post with the name
       | change announcement
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29029385
        
       | eunos wrote:
       | Kick out Netflix. MAGA
       | 
       | Tell your Silicon Valley friends that you work at MAGA
        
       | pedalpete wrote:
       | MAGMA (Microsoft, Apple, Google, Meta, Amazon).
       | 
       | I've never understood why Netflix was equated with the bigger
       | companies. It's market cap is $300B the others (excluding
       | Facebook) are all above $1T, and Facebook/Meta has a chance of
       | breaking the $1T in the next year.
        
         | ALittleLight wrote:
         | Why is Facebook "meta" but Google isn't "Alphabet"?
        
           | endisneigh wrote:
           | Google is still a separate company, owned by Alphabet, the
           | holding company. Facebook is changing their name entirely as
           | a company. Facebook will only exist as a product that Meta
           | owns after this.
        
         | usui wrote:
         | Welcome to the opinion zone.
         | 
         | You mention market caps, but I don't think that is really the
         | reason why certain companies enter the mindshare of people.
         | 
         | I think the reason that Netflix became a part of the acronym is
         | because, like its counterparts, all of them are leaders in a
         | big space that others have a hard time competing with, with
         | products that seem innovative (also explains why the giants of
         | FinTech don't have much mindshare). This kind of industry
         | leader at enormous scale results in high compensation for
         | individual emoloyees and it becomes convenient to lump these
         | companies together because everyone is going for it regardless
         | of whether they care about any individual workplace.
         | 
         | Netflix essentially bootstrapped and proved the market for
         | streaming. For a really long time, people weren't sold by the
         | idea of streaming their shows instead of getting millions of
         | commercials on cable TV.
         | 
         | Don't get me wrong, Microsoft is a great company that operates
         | at a massive scale, winning many enterprise hearts like
         | Microsoft Office (slowly losing relevance), but if I think
         | about it harder, I just don't think there's much for Microsoft
         | to claim as a leader.
         | 
         | It has the largest gaming and PC markets, but those markets
         | don't have the same nearly infinitely scalable potential profit
         | that Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, or Google do. They don't
         | quite lead hardware, software, or "platforms". Windows is
         | pretty good, but really more just a data platform at this point
         | and hasn't done much movement compared to macOS. Azure, GitHub,
         | LinkedIn--they exist, for sure, but we tend to talk about them
         | as separate entities than "Microsoff" a lot of the time.
         | 
         | I'm sure many people can raise counterpoints, but keep in mind
         | we're already talking about ambiguous notions of "feeling" how
         | a company should be perceived, and why many people would "feel"
         | like Microsoft doesn't lump with the rest.
         | 
         | I'm reminded by a quote by Steve Jobs talking about Microsoft's
         | "lack of culture" in the products.
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/KSg3fU9XWow
        
           | electroly wrote:
           | Honestly I always assumed Netflix was added because "fang"
           | sounds nice and apropos, but if you remove the N then it's a
           | very different word that's not nice at all.
        
         | dyeje wrote:
         | Mostly because of their compensation I think.
        
       | bin_bash wrote:
       | GAMMA--kick out Netflix and put in Microsoft
        
         | nostrademons wrote:
         | The M is already Microsoft. I'm partial to calling the Netflix-
         | less tech industry "MAGA", because they're the ones actually
         | making America great again.
         | 
         | Also Google is actually Alphabet, so it'd really be like MAMA
         | or something.
        
           | dmak wrote:
           | The M in FAANG is already Microsoft?
        
           | ijlx wrote:
           | The M is Meta - Microsoft isn't in FAANG
        
             | hihihihi1234 wrote:
             | Tangential: why not? Microsoft is a huge, enormously
             | influential tech company that everyone has heard of, with a
             | revenue of $160 billion (more than 10x that of Netflix) and
             | nearly 200,000 employees (more than any FAANG except
             | Amazon, if Wikipedia is to be believed.) Why isn't it
             | included in the standard list of prominent tech companies?
        
       | rvz wrote:
       | G.A.M.M.A.
       | 
       | Google, Apple, Meta, Microsoft, Amazon.
       | 
       | Well this works.
        
       | short12 wrote:
       | Or just ignore the name change like people did with the Sears
       | tower or miller park
        
         | rektide wrote:
         | Or DCA airport, maybe "National" if you insist.
         | 
         | Or perhaps more close to home here: Alphabet.
        
           | Armisael16 wrote:
           | DCA and National are more-or-less interchangable. It's Reagan
           | that's the own-of-towner one.
        
         | monksy wrote:
         | I'm reporting you for false info. The Sears tower's name never
         | changed.
        
       | sbierwagen wrote:
       | MMAGA. Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, Google, Apple.
        
       | sandyarmstrong wrote:
       | My favorite take:
       | https://twitter.com/jspaleta/status/1453798341347708930
       | 
       | "I work for the MAAAN"
        
       | lukehutch wrote:
       | Kind of a silly question when we're not saying FAANA rather than
       | FAANG.
        
       | 908B64B197 wrote:
       | An ESL speaker once used "FAGMAN".
       | 
       | We chuckled.
        
       | corysama wrote:
       | If we go with MAANG, can I pronounce it like "mange"?
        
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