[HN Gopher] Too big to cover alone: Newsrooms team up
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Too big to cover alone: Newsrooms team up
Author : samizdis
Score : 34 points
Date : 2021-10-26 13:30 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| thenanyu wrote:
| How is this not anti-competitive collusion.
| Traster wrote:
| Well I mean, let's add up all of the news organisations that
| have joined together and pit them against their single largest
| competitor. They're still less than 1/10th the size of their
| neartest competitor (facebook).
| posix_me_less wrote:
| Mainstream/establishment media like to hit at Facebook,
| probably because it is eating their profits. But it's a curious
| double standard - Twitter and Google allow similar nasty stuff
| on their platforms too but are being tolerated. Facebook has
| been chosen as the public enemy No.1. Maybe it's because
| Facebook prefers profits and is not obeying establishment
| narratives?
| JumpCrisscross wrote:
| > _it 's a curious double standard - Twitter and Google allow
| similar nasty stuff on their platforms too but are being
| tolerated_
|
| This is a curiously-repeated line. The nastiness isn't the
| crux of the issue. It's the core of the issue. But what puts
| Facebook front and centre is its abysmal track record of
| lying.
| throwaway_dcnt wrote:
| I am alarmed that the media in its pursuit of clicks and eyeballs
| would amplify the divisions using such collusion. An example
| article put forward by a main stream news organization:
| https://abcnews.go.com/US/type-gun-us-homicides-ar-15/story?...
|
| The topic is already quite sensitive and divisive. Was it really
| necessary to use the image with a gun covered in american flag?
| If this is not fanning the flames of divisions, what is? And now
| they want to collude?
| h2odragon wrote:
| Helps reduce those troublesome variances in the Narrative, too.
| samizdis wrote:
| > Parts of the group's embargo fell apart Friday night, and some
| participating newsrooms posted a batch of articles ahead of the
| weekend.
|
| That is such a shame, and reflects poorly on those who saw fit to
| break ranks. However, the overall idea is sound and, I think,
| positive and encouraging.
|
| I've worked on editorial CMS tools linked to interactive planning
| modules (open source, and with a stripped-down SaaS variant in
| the offing) that could be spun up really quickly for such cross-
| outlet access/collaboration use cases.
| posix_me_less wrote:
| The idea of different news organizations coordinating on
| publications hitting their common hated competitor is a "sound
| idea"? Don't you want independent and balanced reporting
| without group think and narrative coordination?
| manquer wrote:
| Even the largest news organizations can no longer afford to
| staff large investigative teams who can research on stories
| for months and go through tens of thousands of documents to
| produce few stories.
|
| The collusion is a far lesser problem than getting the story
| at all, that capacity is diminishing every year.
| lettergram wrote:
| Kinda like how they control the narrative and release /
| orchestrate propaganda at the same time...
|
| https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1420050776785883136/photo...
|
| ???
| WarOnPrivacy wrote:
| That's a weird way to spin competent reporting (of misdeeds by
| the powerful).
| twofornone wrote:
| If you look closely, the point is that media outlets
| regularly contradict themselves in pursuit of a consistent
| political agenda. When you collect the headlines and list
| them side by side, the implicitly (or explicitly?)
| coordinated propaganda becomes obvious.
| WarOnPrivacy wrote:
| > If you look closely, the point is that media outlets
| regularly contradict themselves in pursuit of a consistent
| political agenda.
|
| One is more likely to read political/cultural agendas into
| everything they can when one primarily consumes media that
| compulsively frames everything it doesn't like in
| political/cultural terms.
| alphabettsy wrote:
| This narrative presents "the media" as one collective
| group. People have different opinions even within the
| same program so of course they'll have different points
| of view across an organization. The people working there
| are also human, bias and all.
| stronglikedan wrote:
| No, it really is as simple as "media outlets regularly
| contradict themselves in pursuit of a consistent
| political agenda." It's blatantly obvious, and not even
| questionable. However, it's also not new.
| psychometry wrote:
| Seems you're confused about the difference between articles,
| editorials, and op-eds. Not a big reader are you?
| lettergram wrote:
| On the contrary, I read / listen to news constantly.
|
| The issue I take, is that there's actually very very little
| legitimate news being promoted. Blogs and detailed substack's
| have way WAY more interesting content than the New York Times
| on most topics.
|
| The problem is group think, their articles / investigations
| tend to be just an opinion piece masked in "research". That's
| not to say it's all that way, but it often is.
|
| Collaborations are occurring because they quite literally
| have to share the story to keep the narrative(s) the same.
| There's only so many stories there allowed to comment on and
| only so many views they can get for their content.
| Collaborations are necessary to ensure revenue sharing.
| psychometry wrote:
| It's not the authors' fault you're too fucking dumb to
| understand basic facts about how journalism works. Go shill
| some more ivermectin, you nutter.
| afavour wrote:
| Weird comparison given the events aren't all that similar. We
| know COVID transmission risk is much higher when people are
| indoors. The Capitol riot involved large numbers of people
| being indoors, the BLM protests mostly did not.
|
| The only reason to compare coverage of the BLM marches and
| Capitol riot is, ironically, in serve of propaganda that seeks
| to portray both events two sides of the same coin. Why not
| compare the Capitol riot and, I dunno, coverage of an indoor
| sport event? It would be a more accurate comparison but it
| wouldn't serve a partisan political purpose, so it's not done.
|
| And "release at the same time" is just kind of funny as
| accusations go: an event occurred. _Multiple_ news
| organisations wrote it about it shortly afterwards? Some even
| publishing stories on the _same day_? How very, very
| suspicious.
| throwaway224466 wrote:
| Globalized newsrooms...aka coordinated propaganda and censorship.
|
| Trump did everyone the favor of opening their eyes to how fake
| the mass media is.
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