[HN Gopher] Resonate: A music streaming service structured as a ...
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       Resonate: A music streaming service structured as a cooperative
        
       Author : audiothrowaway
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2021-10-25 18:53 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (resonate.is)
 (TXT) w3m dump (resonate.is)
        
       | missedthecue wrote:
       | Unless I want to engage in charity, why would I use this over
       | Spotify or Apple music?
        
         | siquick wrote:
         | So artists get paid?
        
           | bscphil wrote:
           | I have nothing against charity, but isn't that just charity
           | under a different description?
        
             | patrickyeon wrote:
             | Paying a fair price to sustain something you want to see
             | continue to exist isn't charity.
             | 
             | Paying the lowest price you possibly can nearly always
             | means someone along the way was exploited and not given a
             | fair share of the value they created.
        
         | agluszak wrote:
         | Because you pay only for what you listen to and you can use an
         | open API?
        
       | puppycodes wrote:
       | you lost me at pay per play... also your pricing page doesnt
       | actually give a sense of cost at all? 9 plays per what? 5 euro?
       | 10 dollars? .0000005 eth?
        
         | RDaneel0livaw wrote:
         | Has anyone ever figured this out? It doesn't make it clear at
         | all on the site. As someone who listens to spotify almost all
         | day during working hours, I wonder how much this would cost me
         | compared to the $5/month or whatever I pay now. I'm fine paying
         | more if it goes to the artist, but for goodness sake you need
         | to make it clear what this thing costs.
        
         | siquick wrote:
         | > also your pricing page doesnt actually give a sense of cost
         | at all? 9 plays per what? 5 euro? 10 dollars? .0000005 eth?
         | 
         | This is a huge oversight.
         | 
         | Resonate is a good idea in theory but the majority of people
         | who really care about independent artists getting paid properly
         | for digital music (which seems to be the main purpose behind
         | Resonate) are supporting artists by buying from Bandcamp,
         | rather than solely streaming.
         | 
         | Its kind of telling that Resonate has been around for 7 years
         | yet the database is 13,000 songs. In my experience artists and
         | labels will upload their music anywhere that will get them
         | plays/pays. Not saying that Bandcamp is perfect but it really
         | resonates (sorry) with artists and labels.
         | 
         | Hopefully Resonate can get it right because we need more people
         | to become comfortable with paying for music again.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | A couple small past threads:
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       |  _Resonate - A community-owned music network_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20827361 - Aug 2019 (5
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Resonate - a cooperatively owned streaming music service_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11283175 - March 2016 (2
       | comments)
        
       | 0des wrote:
       | > Our unique Stream2own model splits the cost of a digital
       | download into 9 plays.
       | 
       | > Plays start off cheap when you're discovering and as you fall
       | in love with a song, you come to pay the full price.
       | 
       | > There's no transition out of Resonate to buy a song or album.
       | Purchase it directly, or just keep listening.
       | 
       | > Resonate pays artists directly and per-play. For listeners, the
       | overall cost is similar to that of the average monthly streaming
       | subscription.
       | 
       | I'd be interested in seeing how the 9 plays number was derived,
       | or a deeper discussion or article more than what's on the linked
       | page. This is an interesting model, I hope it works out the way
       | the creators intended.
        
       | agluszak wrote:
       | The idea seems sweet. I registered immediately, but the catalog
       | seems to be pretty empty for now. For me the biggest feature is
       | being able to write a new client. Oh, how I wish Spotify or Tidal
       | had open APIs...
        
       | satellites wrote:
       | This seems really cool. Its aim should not be to usurp Spotify
       | (will never happen since major record labels are entrenched in
       | Spotify now). Rather, I could see this as an alternative to
       | Bandcamp or other similar indie music sites.
       | 
       | I actually like the pay-per-play model personally even though
       | that might irk some people. I'm interested to see how the pricing
       | shakes out for an audiophile type who consumes lots of music.
        
       | nyanpasu64 wrote:
       | Hmm, you have to pay to become a member, and additionally pay for
       | each song you listen (if you exceed the "new user" credits).
       | 
       | Can you sign up as a listener and an artist? I tried but it says
       | "This username is already registered" and "This email address is
       | already registered".
        
         | satellites wrote:
         | Paying to become a co-op member is optional. Not required for
         | listening.
         | 
         | The latter seems like an issue though. It would be great to be
         | able to convert a listener account into an artist account, or
         | to have both under one account entity.
        
       | jrm4 wrote:
       | The intent is great, but this isn't going to happen. I'm a big
       | Spotify hater, frankly -- but one thing they understand is that
       | the marginal cost of streaming OR downloading a song is
       | effectively zero. It's weird to pretend that it isn't -- and it's
       | REALLY weird to promise that you're going to _automatically_ lose
       | more money the more you listen to a song.
       | 
       | I think there's legs in the idea of "hey, you've listened to this
       | a bunch, would you like to pay more (and perhaps get something
       | else)?" But this ain't it.
        
       | throw10920 wrote:
       | Practically, how is this better than my current local music
       | library & player?
       | 
       | "INEQUITIES have been exacerbated." - yikes, no thanks.
        
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