[HN Gopher] macOS Monterey
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macOS Monterey
Author : fossislife
Score : 188 points
Date : 2021-10-25 17:39 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| concinds wrote:
| SharePlay to Mac (I tested audio) is utterly broken. Shockingly
| so. I just tried it again, and my music isn't paused, yet is
| stuck at 0:02. Pausing and unpausing it, and the song starts
| ticking, 0:03, 0:04, and so on, but you can't hear any audio.
| Pause it again. It goes back to 0:02. Now try this with AirPods
| connected to your Mac. Connect your iPhone's Apple Music to
| AirPlay to Mac. The YouTube video you had playing on your Mac
| gets paused, for no reason. But at least you hear your iPhone's
| audio on your Mac. Now pickup your iPhone. Your AirPods have now
| switched to your iPhone, that's still AirPlaying to Mac. You
| can't hear your music anymore. You reconnect the AirPods to your
| Mac. You can hear your iPhone music for a few minutes. Suddenly
| you can't hear anything. Pick up your phone, the volume slider in
| the Music app went all the way to the left. You can't move the
| volume slider to the right, like it's frozen; but the song is
| still playing. You go to Control Center, and finally manage to
| increase the volume. A minute later, the volume goes to zero
| again. If you were hoping to compensate for Spotify Connect not
| being on Apple Music, you'll be disappointed.
|
| Also, Safari has a bug that ignores your setting to not reopen
| non-private windows, and reopens them anyway, so if that's
| important to you, you may want to temporarily switch to another
| browser.
|
| And yes, it still has the "occasionally laggy trackpad cursor"
| bug on M1 for me.
|
| But other than that, it seems quite a bit faster than Big Sur,
| and so far (past 2 weeks), very stable on the core stuff.
| lghh wrote:
| Funny that they used a very clunky looking Windows laptop and a
| pretty dated looking Android phone to show off Facetime.
| comeonseriously wrote:
| I get that you want to show your own products in their best
| light, but this is just petty and beneath them.
| temac wrote:
| About showing their products in the best light, it seems they
| also chose to limit the view of the notch of their brand new
| MBP to one (kind of small) picture... among pictures of 30
| devices.
| disposedtrolley wrote:
| The macOS Finder still displays Windows machines on the
| network as CRT monitors showing the BSOD I believe. I'm not
| in front of my Mac now so can't check.
| akmarinov wrote:
| This comes from the company that still shows non-Mac PCs in
| the network as CRT monitors, showing a blue screen of death.
| hugi wrote:
| Only if you have no sense of humor :).
|
| Reminds me of how hugely offended some people were that the
| icon for a Windows PC in Mac OS X's network browser was a
| blue screened monitor.
| comeonseriously wrote:
| I can be not offended and still feel it to be petty.
| hugi wrote:
| I found it absolutely hilarious when it was done about 15
| years ago. That was when we Apple users were pretty much
| the underdogs and expected the platform to die any day.
|
| But now that Windows users feel threatened by Apple and
| are sensitive about this, it should probably be changed.
| Although it's a fun relic of the olden times.
| lghh wrote:
| It's just annoying when they don't have a sense of humor
| about their products but have a negative sense of humor
| about other's.
| mikestew wrote:
| This is the same company that displays Windows machines it
| finds on the network with a Blue Screen of Death. You have to
| really zoom in on that icon to see it, but it's there. As a
| Certified Apple Fanboi(tm), such pettiness bothers me. I'd go
| as far as to call it unprofessional. But macOS rules and
| Windoze droolz, amirite?
| mmastrac wrote:
| I'd give them a pass for this as it's been in there since
| they really were the underdogs. At the time it was punching
| up. Not so much now.
| dylan604 wrote:
| That's my mental picture of Windows, and it's not because
| of the Mac icon. So in my opinion, it is a fair likeness.
| smoldesu wrote:
| If they used an XPS people might accidentally realize that you
| don't need a notch to put a camera at the top of your screen.
| threeseed wrote:
| Dell uses a low quality 720p camera on their XPS line.
|
| And the notch gives them room for a future FaceID sensor
| stack.
| FireBeyond wrote:
| And Apple only just with the new MBPs upgraded to 1080p.
|
| And Dell supports Windows Hello 3D face recognition without
| a notch.
|
| It's not quite as unbalanced as you imply.
| threeseed wrote:
| And the notch was only just introduced. Not sure what
| your point is here.
| saghm wrote:
| > And the notch gives them room for a future FaceID sensor
| stack
|
| If that's really the reason, why not just delay putting the
| notch on until they're actually doing that?
| smoldesu wrote:
| Why can't the most valuable company in the world just
| engineer a solution? Dell was able to fit infrared facial
| unlock inside that tiny bezel too, so I don't really buy
| the "it's for faceID" argument (especially since they
| didn't include the hardware this time). It's a ridiculous
| decision by a company that deserves to be ridiculed for
| cutting corners on a professional device.
| lghh wrote:
| But then they'd have to show the corresponding person in the
| video call as being nothing but a floating nose.
| JohnTHaller wrote:
| The XPS line fixed that last year. It's at the top of the
| screen in a super thing bezel.
| kfprt wrote:
| The new XPS has windows hello AND a super thin bezel.
| Imagine that.
| threeseed wrote:
| Many popular Windows laptops e.g. Thinkpad look like that.
|
| And since they are targeting younger people for Facetime maybe
| not surprising they didn't choose the most expensive, flagship
| phone.
| FireBeyond wrote:
| And yet iPhones are flagship phones...
|
| Taste is subjective. Anyone arguing that the MBP is
| objectively better than, say,
| https://icdn.digitaltrends.com/image/digitaltrends/dell-
| xps-...
|
| is just expressing their preferences. And I say that as
| someone who is waiting on delivery of the 14" MBP.
| threeseed wrote:
| M1 Pro/Max destroys the competition by every definition.
|
| https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-
| performanc...
|
| So taste maybe subjective. But there is simply no argument
| that if you care about performance or battery life then the
| MacBook Pro is objectively better.
| smoldesu wrote:
| How does it fare in price/performance? I'd wager that's
| what will matter more than performance/watt to 90% of
| customers.
| [deleted]
| kube-system wrote:
| Looks about like the hardware you'd get for a N2040 laptop or a
| prepaid unlocked phone. Half of the stuff on the shelf at
| Walmart looks like this today. Just because Apple doesn't make
| entry-level hardware doesn't mean they're under any obligation
| to pretend that other companies don't. I think the image
| illustrates quite well what this update means -- FaceTime isn't
| just a rich-kid platform anymore.
| temac wrote:
| So I just took a few minutes to lookup for the picture of an
| "N2040" (or various random low cost laptops, N4020 seems more
| likely if it's about a Celeron CPU, but I actually found one
| laptop model named "N2040") and they have bezels clearly
| thinner than what Apple shows for the laptop PC picture.
|
| Ironically, during my research I also found this marvelous
| few years old MacBook Air https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/off
| er/buy/2076960204/portabl... , which is not too far.
|
| So I'm not really convinced that attempt of an excuse makes
| any sense...
| vadfa wrote:
| What do you think the average Windows laptop and Android phone
| look like?
| tommywg7 wrote:
| Finally, you can FaceTime with poor people!
| EamonnMR wrote:
| If any apple product managers are reading this, the biggest thing
| holding MacOS back is that it global searches when you search a
| folder. I know there's a config setting for it, but dammit I want
| the default to be local file name search and full text search
| should be an off-by-default option, and search the whole hard
| drive should be a different also off by default option.
| Smoofer wrote:
| This is the _biggest_ thing holding MacOS back?
| jt_thurs_82 wrote:
| I personally prefer the global search, I think the consistent
| behavior is good.
| hk1337 wrote:
| Meh. It's only slightly annoying. It global searches by default
| but all you have to do is click your folder name at the top of
| the search
| divbzero wrote:
| Agreed, I always have to flip that Finder setting is to search
| by folder. I already have quick access to global search via
| Command + Space.
| [deleted]
| NaN1352 wrote:
| Focus .... by adding gazillions of notification options, and also
| get more notifications for "weekly screen time"... yeah, I really
| needed even more useless information to process instead of living
| my life. If i want time off i'll just put the device down, what a
| concept :/
|
| They've got it completely backwards.
| macintux wrote:
| I don't know how Monterey differs from iOS, but while I
| initially dismissed the new focus features as irrelevant, I
| quickly realized how useful they can be. Specifically I blocked
| all work-related notifications when I was on vacation.
|
| Allowing for one-time customizations doesn't add to my ongoing
| "useless information to process" queue.
| kkirsche wrote:
| It's ok it doesn't work for you. But for some of us it provides
| isolation between various aspects of our life.
| neilalexander wrote:
| More importantly, it gives us _granular_ isolation and
| _automated_ ways of activating them, rather than just having
| a single Do Not Disturb option that does all-or-nothing. It's
| a feature that I have really come to like during the betas
| and definitely helps me to stay on top of information
| overload, allowing notifications from certain apps at certain
| times of day (e.g. work hours, sleep hours) or places (e.g.
| gym).
| moogleii wrote:
| I don't think it's as complicated as you make it out to be.
| It's just adding to the "Do not disturb" option that's been
| there for ages. You can still use that indiscriminate DND
| option and ignore the rest.
|
| But some of us do want certain messages to breach while we're
| working.
| psychometry wrote:
| MacOS major version release are so underwhelming to me. They're
| not so much OS updates as they're updates to built-in apps I
| don't use or use at a very surface level: Safari, Facetime, Apple
| Maps, Messages, etc.
|
| I'm not really sure what I'd want out of a new MacOS, though.
| It's been stable and (for my purposes) feature-complete for many
| years now. I don't remember the last time a MacOS upgrade added a
| feature I wanted but didn't yet have, nor the last time they
| added a feature I didn't realize I wanted because I'd never
| imagined it. The latter used to be what made Apple products stand
| out to me.
| sergiomattei wrote:
| I'm impressed. People really will never be satisfied.
|
| A relatively low-key, under-the-hood Mac release? "Man I miss
| when the Mac was innovative. These releases are a snooze fest."
|
| A big release, packed with features? "Man I miss when Apple
| cared about their OS stability. We need a new zero features
| snooze fest like 10.6. Take me back to Snow Leopard :("
|
| Only HN can pull off such astounding mood swings. I know this
| site isn't a monolith of opinions, but come on.
| TomSwirly wrote:
| These releases offer me nothing, take a big chunk of time to
| operate, and break my old software and device.
|
| And bugs linger for years and never get fixed.
|
| I think it's very reasonable to complain.
| movedx wrote:
| This reminds me of a conversation I heard once in London.
|
| I was in a line for some food at a Puppet (the config
| management tool) conference and two guys in front of me were
| chatting about their Puppet runs.
|
| One turned to the other and said, "My Puppet runs are really
| slow. It takes 10-15 minutes for it to run and apply state to
| all 15,000 servers."
|
| I couldn't believe it. The guy was complaining about having
| to wait 15 minutes to apply state to 15,000 operating
| systems.
|
| What is wrong with people? You haven't got to go back far to
| take all of this innovation away and still people aren't
| pleased.
| memco wrote:
| I would love a more detailed change log of the actual OS level
| changes because sometimes there's useful tidbits but you often
| have to be watching the WWDC content in order to see what will
| be in the upcoming OS. There have been some under the hood
| things like the APFS switch, Rosetta, and other under the hood
| changes that can significantly impact the OS. In this release I
| saw that there is a new copy mechanism in the finder which
| seems pretty significant but there isn't a lot of detail about
| the technology behind it. I am also interested in the universal
| control and the ability to use your mac as an airplay device so
| now you can stream another Mac which used to be some thing then
| I did using a lunar display adapter. I also saw there's a built
| in TOTP feature now which might be handy. I agree though most
| changes seem like app changes and services that could be
| decoupled from an OS update.
| theonemind wrote:
| I find them worse than underwhelming. Generally, the thing that
| usually pushes me to upgrade is EOL of the OS I'm on, or
| escaping some abomination perpetrated by the OS I'm on. It's
| almost never a compelling feature, because I need an OS to run
| applications, mostly.
|
| The abomination that would get me off of Big Sur is the
| ridiculously low contrast difference for titlebars between
| foreground and background apps. Turning on the contrast
| accessibility option looks horrible. However, it's looking like
| thanks to HazeOver, this is a wait-for-EOL cycle.
| lkbm wrote:
| Same here. Looking through recent release highlights, Mojave
| adding Dark Mode is the mot recent stand-out I spotted, and
| even that I don't really care about all that much.
|
| Universal Control has potential to be valuable.
| foobarian wrote:
| I have my pet peeves I would love to change. But they are
| mostly not close to kernel or "OS" level; rather they are UI
| quirks.
| kube-system wrote:
| I personally prefer the incremental yearly updates to huge
| changes on a longer timeframe. I'm pretty excited about Live
| Text, personally. I've been getting a lot of great use out of
| it on iOS.
|
| If we're talking about other recent releases, ARM (/iOS app
| interoperability) support was definitely a huge change :)
| theshrike79 wrote:
| Underwhelming updates are good, that way corporate IT doesn't
| take 3 years to approve updating company computers.
| inDigiNeous wrote:
| At least they've managed to optimize and make the OS faster.
| Mojave feels faster on my 2014 MPB than previous installations
| did. Would wish they would focus on the apps and not revamping
| the system each time they do an update.
| snug wrote:
| Still can't stream fitness+ to a mac?
| throwawaymanbot wrote:
| Surveillance baked right in. Hashing yo data.
| dkdk8283 wrote:
| Any of the awful UX functions been rolled back? Notifications and
| the bluetooth menus are an abomination.
| deathanatos wrote:
| Just having functional bluetooth would be nice? Bluetooth on my
| MBP recently decided to turn "off", and clicking/sliding the
| on/off slider just does nothing. The slider doesn't move to
| "on", and I get no feedback, errors, _information_ or anything
| about why I can 't re-enable it.
|
| Prior to that BT devices would just drop the connection,
| AFAICT.
|
| Bi-directional file transfer has never worked properly.
|
| And that's only BT...
|
| IDK what's actually that bad about the BT menu UI though? The
| recent UX changes on notifications have been bad, though.
| Especially where sometimes clicking the X doesn't dismiss the
| notification. (There's some bait&switch b/c there's like
| multiple notifications stacked up... or something.) And that
| (for a while now) Calendar hasn't reliably notified me, which
| has been great, as it results in lateness to meetings, since
| there's no longer an office mate to say "hey, it's time".
| sen wrote:
| BT is broken everywhere. I daily-drive MacOS, Windows 10, and
| PopOS, all on pretty solid hardware. All 3 have countless
| issues with BT stuff, whether it's UI and issues with
| connecting/remembering, or dropouts, or it just failing to
| work on random days, or audio glitches, or not finding some
| generic peripherals that the other OSes do find, etc etc.
|
| I use BT a lot, half a dozen devices I use every single day,
| and I have issues with every single peripheral on at least 1
| (usually 2) of the 3 OSes I use.
|
| BT itself seems like such a simple thing to get right too...
| not sure what I'm missing about it that makes it so
| technically hard to just work as expected.
| nawgz wrote:
| Bluetooth menu structure is god-tier compared to how it used to
| be, what do you mean "abomination"?
| concinds wrote:
| Apple took away a key feature, where you pressed a key combo
| (shift+alt) and clicked on the Bluetooth menu bar item, and
| you'd get an option to reset Bluetooth; this helped for the
| inevitable case where people have bugs and devices won't
| connect, or Bluetooth just won't work.
|
| https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/reset-mac-bluetooth-module/
|
| That no longer exists on Monterey.
|
| They might be referencing Control Center, though.
| nawgz wrote:
| How are secret features better than the now-discoverable
| option of simply shutting it off and turning it back on?
| It's an all-time computing classic and now it's using the
| UI classic toggle language. This seems superb to me.
| Klonoar wrote:
| ...are you sure? When bluetooth was broken as all hell in
| the Monterey betas I believe that the reset trick was the
| go-to for people to get it to reconnect to devices
| properly.
|
| Unless they removed it entirely in a later beta and I'm
| simply unaware.
| jedimind wrote:
| Exactly, thank you! At least they should implement some easy
| cli commands for those who don't want to deal with the awful
| UX.
| user3939382 wrote:
| blueutil. I connect my bluetooth headphones to macOS by
| issuing 'hp' in iTerm2 which is an alias to blueutil to
| connect to my headphones by ID number
| dionian wrote:
| been using since first public betas months ago. hated this for
| a couple weeks, but then once I realized it how it unified
| everything in one place, now I love it. It took a while for me
| to adjust to though.
| brink wrote:
| I was hoping someone would mention this.
|
| Shoving everything into a sub-menu made device statuses
| invisible and involved extra clicks to interact with them. It's
| user-hostile design.
| xu_ituairo wrote:
| Did you know you can drag the controls out onto the menu bar?
| fire wrote:
| holy shit
| jorts wrote:
| You just blew my mind. Thank you!
| ASinclair wrote:
| This just saved me several minutes every day. Thank you!
| brink wrote:
| No, I did not.
| movedx wrote:
| Not to be rude, but this has been a thing for some time
| now.
| nsonha wrote:
| > rude
|
| to Apple?
|
| Why can't this be a predictable hold and drag, like
| everything else?
|
| They expect users to... what read a manual?
|
| There is an alternative, make it so that users can
| intuitively discover features by playing around. I
| believe Steve Jobs told some pretentious story along that
| line when he launched the iPad.
| tailspin2019 wrote:
| How very rude.
| runjake wrote:
| It's in the macOS User Guide. Here's the link for the
| Monterey version:
|
| https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/control-center-
| mchl...
|
| (Note the Tip sentence.)
|
| _Always_ read, or at least browse, the macOS and iOS
| /iPadOS User Guide. Even advanced users will learn a
| thing or few.
| Groxx wrote:
| "show bluetooth in menubar" checkbox in bluetooth prefs
| also works as it always has.
| renewiltord wrote:
| Wait. Is this normal cross platform FaceTime? Or is this like a
| different FaceTime because FaceTime is awesome.
| evanmoran wrote:
| I believe it's web based for cross platform. So equivalent to
| Google Meet and with similar UX limitations.
| JohnTHaller wrote:
| Everyone can initiate a call in Google Meet. Only Apple
| customers can initiate a call in FaceTime. So, they're not
| exactly equivalent.
| wlesieutre wrote:
| There's a web client. Non-apple devices can join calls but
| can't initiate them.
|
| https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212619
| JohnTHaller wrote:
| If you're on iOS/macOS, you can send someone a web link to join
| a FaceTime call with you. Not sure how the browser support is
| offhand. There's no client for anything else and others can't
| initiate calls.
| markdown wrote:
| I'm still on Mojave. Is it possible to jump versions, or must I
| upgrade incrementally?
| concinds wrote:
| It's fine to jump versions
| [deleted]
| TameAntelope wrote:
| I'm not sure I need yet another macOS version, feels like they've
| opted for a more frequent release cycle. I (genuinely) wonder
| why...
| quitethelogic wrote:
| > feels like they've opted for a more frequent release cycle
|
| Their OS releases have been yearly for about the past decade I
| think.
| Jtsummers wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_version_history#Releases
|
| They've been released pretty close to every 11-13 months since
| 10.7, which was nearly 2 years after 10.6. That happened a
| decade ago now, so it's not something that's changed recently.
| TameAntelope wrote:
| Oh man, I should have looked this up before commenting.
| Really feels shorter, but yeah the data is right there.
| beermonster wrote:
| Given how stable Big Sur was until 11.15.6 I don't think I'll be
| hastily upgrading! [Edited]
| lostgame wrote:
| I think you mean Catalina? That was 10.15. Big Sur was 11.
| beermonster wrote:
| Oops. Typo, meant 11. Edited.
| RussianCow wrote:
| Am I the only one that's really excited about Universal Control?
| If nothing else, it's extremely impressive from an engineering
| perspective (if it works as seamlessly as they make it seem). To
| be able to take your work from your iPad to your iMac like that
| would be pretty incredible.
| Ambroos wrote:
| It doesn't work very well in office environments unfortunately.
| I gave it a try with my work MBP and Mac Pro, and the amount of
| cursor judder / keyboard lag was wild. It'd also just plain not
| work at times. I think things are better when the environment
| is less busy and devices can talk to eachother over the same
| WiFi network (instead of WiFi direct), but it has proven to be
| unusable in the one scenario where I'd have liked to use it.
| eyelidlessness wrote:
| I think quite a lot of that has been available by copy/paste
| over Handoff, it seems like the major change here is that it's
| available with a shared pointing device. Still impressive!
| RussianCow wrote:
| Agreed, but that one change instantly takes it from
| "occasionally useful" to "hot damn that's so cool".
| billiam wrote:
| This is so limited. Where is the boldness? Five years ago I
| thought we would be at MaciOS by now. Precision with a gestural
| capability.
| kitsunesoba wrote:
| I've been enjoying Safari's tab group feature quite a lot. It's
| helped me wrangle the usual set of 5+ windows of tabs related to
| various tasks down into a single window, with the groups lined up
| neatly in a side list and auto-sleeping tabs.
|
| For me at least it's much better than the implementation Chrome
| has gone for which tries to shoehorn groups into an already
| overburdened tab bar.
| systemvoltage wrote:
| There seems to be some kind of a negative space exponential law.
| Margins and paddings increase with every release because
| designers can't resist minimalism over density and usefulness.
| spiderice wrote:
| I'm not sure which specific elements you're referring to, but
| it very well could be in your head. I remember everyone
| complaining about the wasted space in the latest Safari tab
| redesign, until a designer showed that there is actually less
| wasted space in the new design than there was before. It just
| didn't look it.
|
| Not saying it's like this in every case. Just something to
| consider.
| Apocryphon wrote:
| Betting that the next incremental update will be named macOS
| Carmel.
| blondie9x wrote:
| Has anyone shorted Zoom yet? Believe ticker is ZM.
| sam_goody wrote:
| I bought a 2019 iMac with a Fusion drive.
|
| In the next major update (High Sierra), Apple switched to APFS,
| which has issues with Fusion drives.
|
| It often shows as having no empty space, even with 40% empty.
|
| Much, much worse, it stops writing to disk without giving any
| indication (the non written items show in finder, etc.) - for
| some ten hours or more - and then suddenly crashes and you find
| that the entire days worth of work is completely gone. Not on
| disk, not on external backup, not in Time Machine.
|
| This happens EVERY DAY, at least once a day, when using heavy
| programs such as Photoshop.
|
| There are many threads about the issue, and the only solution is
| to get a new non-Fusion drive and copy over everything. Much
| easier said than done.
|
| I cannot even begin to describe how much aggravation Apple has
| caused, and how little faith I have in them testing their
| upgrades.
|
| And of course, the whole play with searching my hard drive for
| something their algorithm thinks goes against my local government
| [which plays for keeps, thank you] - doesn't help.
| MrWiffles wrote:
| I haven't seen this anywhere when I've looked, so I'll ask here
| on the slim chance maybe they really added something I badly want
| and somebody knows...
|
| Is there any application forced sandboxing feature yet?
|
| Something users can control to forcibly stop bad behavior from
| certain "must have" apps. Chrome, for example, has been caught
| doing entire drive scans on Windows, and I'm not sure I entirely
| trust Zoom either. So I'd like to lock down what they can access
| in terms of files, paths, devices and so on and be fully
| confident that even if my employer demands I run some software
| installer provided by their "partners" that it hasn't installed
| some creepy daemon and configured launchd to keep it running
| after I kill the app or even kill -9 the process.
|
| Yes we can use VMs for this, but Mac laptops aren't generally
| beefy machines, so that's not an optimal solution.
|
| There used to be sandbox_exec, but I've heard they removed it
| entirely from this version. We're now supposed to get things from
| the (cr)App Store, which guarantees the app will only have
| entitlements that Apple approves. But vendors are abandoning the
| App Store in droves for many good reasons, and after recent
| events I don't totally trust Apple to prevent malicious use
| piggybacking on top of a legit entitlement.
| paxys wrote:
| A lot of these changes seem to be pandemic-driven, which makes
| sense, but it's telling that smaller competitors hacked together
| all these same features within weeks of WFH and the largest and
| most advanced company in the world is finally here 18 months
| later.
| [deleted]
| z5h wrote:
| > _hacked_ together
|
| That's the thing. Apple doesn't want a feature to look like a
| hack, and they also have to consider how every feature plays
| with everything else in their OS and ecosystem.
| nsonha wrote:
| > Apple doesn't want a feature to look like a hack
|
| That means they care about their reputation more than
| actually helping user. I don't think feedback is valued (more
| than their designers' opinions), so no reason to ship fast.
| Zababa wrote:
| That's what they want, but if you read the rest of the thread
| and the common comments on Big sur, that's not how it seems
| to be.
| Shadonototra wrote:
| the best OS if you are fed up with windoze bloatware and are too
| lazy to setup a working desktop environment that suits you on
| linux
|
| it has native unix environment, is fast and efficient
| bowmessage wrote:
| Surprised they are opening the Walled Garden(tm) to allow
| FaceTime from Windows and Android.
| smoldesu wrote:
| Oh, the things I'd give for an LTS version of Mojave...
| ValentineC wrote:
| Same here. Most things still work well for me, so my plan is to
| stick with Mojave until I get an M2 MacBook Air or similar next
| year.
| judge2020 wrote:
| High Sierra for me, since it's the latest that would've been
| able to run any recent NVIDIA GPUs (assuming NVIDIA stayed
| dedicated to releasing Web Drivers).
| icedchai wrote:
| Me too. I'm still running Mojave on my 2014 iMac 5k!
| evanmoran wrote:
| For the Focus feature, I find it a bit unexpected that someone
| messaging me can tell if I'm Driving, Sleeping, Coding, or
| Reading, etc. Does anyone else find this a bit strange/awkward? I
| know you can turn it off (and I did) within iMessage, but it
| seems a bit poorly considered. Curious if people like that aspect
| of the feature!
| judge2020 wrote:
| The first time i opened Messages on iOS 15 is prompted me for
| if I wanted to alert contacts when i'm on do not disturb, and
| there's an option in settings to toggle it as well.
| denimnerd42 wrote:
| you can toggle it per contact so I have it on for my wife but
| no one else.
| nathanyz wrote:
| I thought it was only letting them know that you were currently
| unavailable, not the specific Focus type you are currently in.
| evanmoran wrote:
| Ah wonderful. I misunderstood "focus status" to mean the
| actual name of your focus was displayed, rather the generic
| "Evan has notifications silenced" message. Thank you for the
| clarification!
|
| As to what notifications have been helpful: I ended up making
| Reading and Listening focuses to make personal stuff like
| reading and podcasting more enjoyable. Then for work I
| separated out Communicating (email, slack, asana,
| collaborative docs) from Coding (everything off) as it seemed
| those had quite different notification needs.
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| praseodym wrote:
| It will show your contact that you have notifications silenced,
| not which Focus mode you activated.
| FireBeyond wrote:
| It certainly CAN show that though. "Would you like your
| contacts to know you are driving and unavailable?"
| joshka wrote:
| >Pick from a list of suggested Focus options or create your
| own.
| endisneigh wrote:
| Still no MST.
|
| Is this a hardware or software limitation?
| MrWiffles wrote:
| Could you tell us what MST stands for? I doubt you mean
| "mountain standard time" :-)
| endisneigh wrote:
| Multi-stream transport.
|
| If you have a dock with say, HDMI and DisplayPort and have
| both plugged in, with a mac you can't use a single dock for
| multiple displays in this way. You'd have to use DisplayLink.
| sephamorr wrote:
| Software. My 2012 MBP can do MST fine in Boot Camp, but the
| feature isn't implemented in the macOS drivers.
| moooo99 wrote:
| Are all features available on all recent Macs (Intel + M1)? iirc
| there were some features that there were some exclusive M1
| features to come, but also overheard rumors that they'd still
| roll out on "old" Intel Macs.
|
| Edit: Apparently some features are indeed M1 only. Those features
| are
|
| - portrait mode in FaceTime
|
| - apparently the new Apple Maps design
|
| - the interactive globe
|
| Seems like the most important features (for me it's livetext) are
| available on both architectures.
| mrgalaxy wrote:
| How stable is Monterey for those that have been using it?
|
| Ironically I just upgraded to Big Sur yesterday from Catalina. I
| think I'll probably wait again to let 3rd-party apps catch up.
| jorl17 wrote:
| This extremely aggravating Bluetooth issue is driving me
| insane:
| https://reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/comments/q1trtn/bluetooth_con...
|
| I'm running out of ideas on how to fix this.
| heavymark wrote:
| Have been using since June and haven't ran into any bugs/issues
| that prevents me from doing work. Unlike previous macOS betas
| were often there was at least one or two that would break
| things.
| Ambroos wrote:
| I've been using it since a few betas in on all my devices, with
| zero issues. Anecdata and my work is mostly Chrome(/ium) and
| Android Studio.
| L0stLink wrote:
| If it is your work machine than you probably shouldn't upgrade
| right away, give it a week or two (esp. if you work with
| old/outdated dependencies or packages). For personal machines I
| would be less cautious.
| trydis wrote:
| Been better than Big Sur so far for me, on 16". Have had
| temperature issues with Big Sur, resulting in decreased perf
| due to clocking down (even with TG Pro). Now consistently 5-10
| degrees cooler and less fan noise. Using "Intel Power gadget"
| to see the CPU frequency.
|
| EDIT: I did not install it until the RC.
| mseri wrote:
| I had the same experience. I installed the RC and it has been
| working surprisingly smoothly on my intel macbook pro (15''
| 2018)
| mrgalaxy wrote:
| Oh interesting, I'll keep an eye out on temperature under Big
| Sur. If I see it getting bad that's an easy reason to
| upgrade.
| jedberg wrote:
| It's been pretty good, although it still has some strange bugs,
| but those might be a me problem. Namely, Mission Control
| crashes on me about 15 times a day. I have to 'killall Dock' to
| bring it back. Also, using Cmd-Space to launch apps is janky --
| if I type say Saf, it will say "Safari.app" for about .7
| seconds and then the autocomplete goes away. So I have to enter
| in those .7 seconds.
|
| Other than those two things, it's been pretty solid lately.
| concinds wrote:
| SharePlay to Mac is utterly broken, see my other comment.
|
| Other than that, it seems more stable and faster than Big Sur,
| and that's without a clean install. Notes used to take 4
| bounces to open on M1, now opens instantly. Haven't seen any
| crashing. No broken features that aren't brand new. I've only
| found one bug: Safari reopens private windows even if you turn
| that off. But no problem if you don't use Safari.
| tunesmith wrote:
| > Ironically I just upgraded to Big Sur yesterday from
| Catalina.
|
| I intended to do the same this morning and literally witnessed
| the "Upgrade Now" change from Big Sur to Monterey as I was
| about to click it. Took me a while to find the appropriate link
| for Big Sur in the Mac App Store.
| solarkraft wrote:
| The beta was terrible, up to memory leaks in applications in
| the latest release candidate. As a new user I under-estimated
| the amount of irritating bugs they would ship. I sure hope the
| release is better.
| guruz wrote:
| That's exactly what I do each autumn: Update to the macOS
| version from autumn last year.
|
| So far I was fine with it though of course sometimes it's
| annoying to get the latest XCode (and iOS sdk) version for
| development, so I have to resort to a VM from time to time.
|
| Helpful website: https://xcodereleases.com/
| henvic wrote:
| I've kind of indirect experience: my girlfriend is an iOS
| developer, and has been using it on her only Mac for a while.
|
| In the beginning it was awful for her. A lot of failures.
| However, after a couple of months it became quite stable, and
| she stopped complaining. The only thing that was kind of a
| nightmare was Xcode.
|
| I'm updating it, and if I were you, I'd update right away too.
| There are many improvements.
| 0des wrote:
| What improvements in your girlfriend's daily workflow would
| she say are most notable, did she mention?
| joconde wrote:
| So Private Relay is available on both iOS and macOS stable
| releases now.
|
| Have there been expert opinions about how private this is? I
| understand they built a Tor-light, by hopping through one Apple
| server, then one external server, with some sort of anonymisation
| between the two?
| henvic wrote:
| Finally! :)
| ehakan wrote:
| The Macbook Pro 16" thermal throttling problems with external
| monitors [1] finally seems to be fixed with Monterey by enabling
| low power mode. (At least with 16:9 60Hz monitors).
|
| I've been dealing with `kernel_task` hitting 900% CPU usage and
| the entire window server running at 2 FPS when using external
| monitors since I got the mbp 16" a year ago. Good riddance.
|
| [1]: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-is-hot-noisy-with-
| an...
| cassianoleal wrote:
| It's not fixed though, it simply cripples the CPU in order to
| keep it cooler. This was already achievable by disabling Turbo
| Boost [0]. I can't tell which solution works better but before
| switching to an M1 Air I was running TBS on my 16" and it made
| things more acceptable.
|
| [0] https://github.com/rugarciap/Turbo-Boost-Switcher
| zdwolfe wrote:
| Wow, I didn't realize that was a common problem, and didn't
| realize it was related to external monitors. Thanks for the
| link!
| ksec wrote:
| Sort of a mini review. Using it at home on my MacBook Pro 2015
| Intel Machine.
|
| Big Sur on M1 was fine ( if not great ), mostly because M1 is
| extremely fast. But Big Sir on x86 was slow, really slow. I am in
| the group that reported Big Sur was slower than Catalina, and
| Catalina was slower than Mojave. That is with both the OS itself
| and Safari. So Big Sur was not a smooth experience for me.
|
| Monterey so far brings back the speed / snappiness of Mojave.
| Safari feels so much more responsive under normal use and under
| heavy tab usage. Lots micro-pause ( Jank ) and lag are gone. As
| if they put back all the optimisation for x86 previously left
| out.
|
| Far less Kernel_Task CPU usage and stupid disk write for whatever
| reason. My guess this is mostly a Safari problem given they have
| implemented Tab Groups they have at least taken into account of
| heavy tab usage in mind. This is also apparent when they fix the
| long standing Tab Overview bug, where it will load ( and reload )
| every single Tabs you have trying to generate thumbnail. Imagine
| you accidentally press the Tab Overview button in the tool bar,
| or three finger swap in Safari when you have _hundreds_ of tabs.
| You will instantly get a few _hundreds_ GB of Disk Write paging
| trying load everything. It is literally a feature that kills your
| SSD. I have reported this bug for over three years, it is finally
| fixed. Cloudd and Bookmark / History / Tab Sync pause / Jank is
| still not fix though. That is 3 years+ and counting.
|
| Still wish they do a list of tabs like Chrome instead of
| Thumbnails when it is over certain Tabs Number. It is easier to
| track when you have lots of Tabs. Easier to do Manual Garbage
| Collection of Tabs.
|
| Bug that causes IINA to crash when viewing video in portrait mode
| is gone. One of the biggest complain when updating to Big Sur.
|
| WindowsServer also uses far less CPU. It used to hover over 30%
| for no apparent reason. Now it is back to a normal 5-15% in most
| cases.
|
| Safari "classic" tabs are back. Along with a very long list of
| webkit improvement. Far from perfect but at least things are
| moving.
|
| I am also feeling Apps that are using Swift and SwiftUI are
| snappier than before and uses less memory. An observation mostly
| from using Stocks App.
|
| Many other minor details, may be worth reading Ars' review [1].
| It is solid release, which along with M1 MacBook Pro sadly
| dampens my motivation to move away from Apple.
|
| [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/macos-12-monterey-
| th...
| ushakov wrote:
| that's great to hear
|
| i have a MacBook Pro with Intel as well
|
| Big Sur feels sluggish, it's not that it's slow, but it _feels_
| slow. I don 't remember what OS my MacBook came with, but every
| update made it slower, especially Mail.app, which takes good 10
| seconds to launch. Downloading Monterey now, hopefully will see
| improvements!
|
| edit: but my biggest macOS complaint yet has to be the space
| used by "Other", which at the moment is about 50GB and 70GB at
| times
| tytho wrote:
| I was just helping a family member with this same issue
| (large amount of "Other" space) and turns out it was some
| unmounted volumes that had somehow been created. We couldn't
| track down what was on them in the time period I had to help,
| but doing a clean wipe cleared it all up. Not the best answer
| to the problem.
| [deleted]
| beders wrote:
| It is frustrating to see how stagnant desktop OS's have become.
| Both macOS and Windows 11 have added incremental features that
| are surely nice to have, but no one dares to improve on the
| human-computer-interaction which has remained the same for
| decades now.
|
| With the advances in AI and the ridiculous compute power of
| modern CPUs, we should be able to have OSs that are Digital
| Assistants.
|
| Just one example:
|
| - file management: Why even? Why expose most _regular_ users to
| this metaphor in the first place. Mobile OSs have been rather
| successful in getting rid of this implementation detail. If I
| write a lot of documents and need to come up with names for them,
| I expect that to be sufficient. My Assistant will sort
| /group/maintain them for me and if I want to open the "status
| report to vendor X from last week", then that should be enough.
| Make sure my documents are safely stored, encrypted and all that
| jazz. Don't make me pick between "iCloud" or "OneDrive" or "C:\"
| or "Document" or "Desktop". Index all the content I'm producing
| semantically. Just DoWhatIMean? (tm) Have this be consistent
| throughout the applications I'm using - including web apps. (And
| why even make _that_ distinction. Who here doesn 't have
| relatives who have trouble understanding the differences between
| locally installed applications, apps on their phone and web apps
| in the browser?)
|
| Regular users are consistently struggling with low-level concepts
| like 'files' and similar remnants of trying to emulate desktop
| metaphors from the workplaces of the 80ies.
|
| "Do you want to change the extension to .doc or change it to
| .txt"? What?!? "Do you want to overwrite file "xyz.xls"?
| Overwriting sounds bad, what happens if I say no though?
|
| That is just the tip of the iceberg where we are somehow tied to
| ideas of HCI that are rooted in the 70s/80s.
|
| I do appreciate being able to tell my phone "Set a timer for 10
| minutes", but where is "Plan a trip to Dallas for next week
| Friday" - and the Digital Assistant knowing exactly what to do
| (since that ain't its first rodeo)?
| dzhiurgis wrote:
| Sounds you should try using a meme computer called iPad
| [deleted]
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| > Regular users are consistently struggling with low-level
| concepts like 'files' and similar remnants of trying to emulate
| desktop metaphors from the workplaces of the 80ies.
|
| This is revisionist computing history of a sort that is
| becoming more common these days as _certain people_ retire.
|
| The concept of files predates the concept of "a desktop" by
| decades. There is a much deeper metaphor to "files" than there
| is to "files on a desktop", and one that is hard to dispense
| with even if you have _extraordinarily_ smart search available.
|
| > Mobile OSs have been rather successful in getting rid of this
| implementation detail.
|
| Almost entirely by shrinking the scope of what can be done to a
| point that would be useless for what is currently understod as
| a desktop computer. You want that model? Get a big, powerful
| tablet.
| xu_ituairo wrote:
| As you say, we're getting exactly these advances with phone and
| tablet OSs. iPads are becoming a dream appliance in the ways
| you mention and capture 90% of the average person's computing
| needs.
|
| Regular computers have to maintain some backward compatibility
| and it's nice for power users to still be allowed to fiddle
| with file extensions and system internals.
| jcelerier wrote:
| But no one uses tablets in practices. Everyone I know who
| bought an iPad or iPad pro use it for a bit and then it just
| takes dust.
| Isthatablackgsd wrote:
| Perhaps I am the only one who use iPad daily. I uses it for
| work and video streaming from my PC folder share. Still
| using it for 4 years and onward.
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| It would be good to have a really solid answer about why
| that happens.
| jcelerier wrote:
| I had an android tablet at some point and... it was nice
| to read comic books on it I guess ? But whenever I wanted
| to do something a bit productive - I remember trying to
| do mindmaps, bibliography work and similar research-ey
| stuff it was painful and I ended redoing everything on a
| computer with keyboard shortcuts. On the other hand my
| Remarkable is seeing a great deal of work... Drawing
| little schemas on it is incredible.
| spiderice wrote:
| Correct. Or they become Netflix viewers, or are used to
| doodle in Procreate or something. I am yet to meet a person
| who uses the OS (as opposed to specific apps) for something
| complicated. Apple loves to show how easy it is to drag an
| image from Email in to Pages. But nobody uses an iPad for
| Pages. And even that simple interaction is still somehow
| easier on a Mac.
|
| The latest MacBook gives me hope that post-Ive Apple is
| serious about giving their customers what they want. I
| would love to see an iPadOS for people who do actual work
| one day.
|
| Note: I'm trying to make a distinction between iPadOS and
| the apps on an iPad. Plenty of apps are useful for actual
| work. However the OS itself is very much a hinderance.
| Isthatablackgsd wrote:
| People who want to use Pages in iPad... for the sake of
| your life, please don't do it. It is quite... aggravating
| trying to move that freaking table from few cm across and
| it ended up 3 inches away. My forehead vein was ready to
| burst that day. It is not worth the experience to use it
| on the iPad unless for a simple essay or letter which
| should be fine. But if you try to go beyond that, make
| sure you remember to go to your happy place so often when
| you try.
| root_axis wrote:
| That might be true on iOS, but on android we actually have a
| file system and it's great, it's one of the primary reasons I
| have preferred android for years.
| diegof79 wrote:
| I can imagine a few reasons for such stagnation:
|
| - Business: there isn't a strong business need to re-think the
| desktop UI. There are needs on mobile and the web, but
| improving the classic desktop doesn't give a competitive
| advantage (unless you can combine it with the web and mobile,
| which is exactly what Apple, Google, and MS are trying to do).
|
| - Developers: you need to attract developers to your platform
| too. Devs will ignore your unique features if they are not
| attractive enough to justify the change, and they are not
| cross-platform. Examples: - Smalltalk envs are
| like an extremely hackable Desktop OS (eg. Squeak or Pharo).
| They don't use the files as the storage unit, and the
| technology to scale the object image existed for a long time
| (eg. GemStone/St). The first complaint that you'll hear about
| St is: "where are my files and version control?". There is no
| interest in the dev community to make files go away because it
| breaks the tools that you use every day. - macOS
| has features to support version history, or conveniently handle
| files (eg. auto-save, rename in place, cloud support). But,
| those features are not cross-platform, and they are ignored by
| the cross-platform "pro" software: VSCode, JetBrains IDEs,
| Adobe Products, Figma.
|
| These two barriers are big enough to make any improvement
| incremental instead of revolutionary. Both iOS and Android are
| different from the usual desktop UI because of the form-factor
| (small screen, touch, low power, etc), and the lack of legacy
| (but people still wanted Flash when iOS came out, and Apple had
| to add Files to make the interoperability easy).
|
| Maybe the next generation "desktop" is not a classic desktop
| but an evolution of the web browser. The sad part is that all
| the new environments (iOS, iPadOS, Android, ChromeOS, SaaS
| apps) are extremely closed and hostile to tinker with the
| system.
| garaetjjte wrote:
| >we should be able to have OSs that are Digital Assistants.
|
| Please don't touch my OS.
|
| >Regular users are consistently struggling with low-level
| concepts like 'files' and similar remnants of trying to emulate
| desktop metaphors from the workplaces of the 80ies.
|
| I'm going to make argument that regular users are struggling
| with directory structures because of how OSes are increasingly
| "helpful". In DOS 2.0, it was simple: each physical disk has
| filesystem with tree structure, no shortcuts, no symlinks. I
| doubt anybody was confused by that. But let's pretend I don't
| know about usual quirks and see how that goes in Windows: where
| the hell is "Desktop"? Does everything is contained _inside_
| it? After all, "My Computer" icon is there, and clicking "dir
| up" in My Computer goes back to Desktop! But then, Desktop
| itself is contained in My Computer, so hmm... And why on
| Desktop there are shortcuts there that.. doesn't seem to be in
| Desktop directory? Ah, because they are in some magic place
| "C:/Users/Public/Desktop". And by the way, why it is usually
| called "Pulpit" (localized name in my language), but when in
| path it's not localized and just "Desktop"? Where my browser
| stores browsing history? Surely it must be in some file? Right,
| probably in user directory... wait, how do I open user
| directory? Documents folder surely must be stored inside it, so
| let's click "dir up" there. Uh, it went back to dreaded My
| Computer. Fine, I will go there manually through C:/Users/. So
| the browser files will be in AppData.. but it isn't here.. ah
| right, it is hidden for some reason. But there's still
| something fishy about the Documents, it doesn't behave like a
| normal directory. Let's see in Properties dialog, there's
| Location tab, so it looks like it works like shortcut to it,
| simple enough. Uh.. actually no, because it is part of
| "Libraries" mechanism, and is actually configured in
| AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/Windows/Libraries. Documents (and
| other libraries) might be actually configured to squash
| _multiple_ directories in their virtual view...
|
| Really, it's no wonder that most regular people are confused
| about it.
| [deleted]
| bdowling wrote:
| It doesn't help that outside of computer use, file means a
| collection of documents (e.g., a case file).
| concinds wrote:
| I don't like hero worship, but I happened to hear a Steve Jobs
| clip the other day, where he said: a great idea is only 10%
| what you think it's worth; the 90% is the implementation
| details and craftsmanship that goes into it.
|
| I _don 't want_ an OS that "doesn't make me pick between iCloud
| or ~/Documents". That just means turning macOS into ChromeOS.
| An OS with just a search bar would break a ridiculous amount of
| uses, from shared computers or cloud drives where everyone
| knows to put the files in the right folder, but your colleagues
| have weird naming conventions, so you can't search by name, but
| if the files were side-by-side it would be common sense which
| one you want; to the dangers of ambiguity between cloud and
| local storage; to the reality that many use personal computers
| for work and would get fired if certain personal files/media
| showed up in a File Search for work documents. You imply that
| iOS-style file management is easier for average users, but at a
| previous workplace, there was a central Mac that had important
| text files with .odt extensions, all organised on the desktop,
| that opened in TextEdit since LibreOffice/OpenOffice was for
| some reason never installed. How would TextEdit show those
| files if all you had was the Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion-esque
| TextEdit iCloud open box? The documents wouldn't show up, since
| it would only show TextEdit documents, i.e. rich text files
| (.rtd). If it makes sense to keep multiple types of files
| together, like text files and spreadsheets, you'd have to put
| them in a folder, not app-specific storage. But that sounds
| identical to what we have now. How would I open any random
| local text file in Google Docs? Wouldn't that be a huge privacy
| flaw, that Apple would never build into Safari anyway? You'd
| just end up with silos within each app, with no idea how to
| move things around, since I think the iOS metaphor is actually
| less intuitive than putting folders on your desktop with things
| inside them.
|
| Everyone likes imagining better ways to manage files, but no
| one has been able to come up with one that's intuitive, not
| even Apple with iOS. The only reason they get away with it, is
| _very few people actually ever interact with files on iOS_.
| Instagram, Snapchat, Reminders, Clock, Safari don 't involve
| documents, and for many people, that's what they use their
| phone for, period. Google Docs are in the app; how would they
| open in any other app anyway? As for iPad users, people might
| create something in ProCreate, and then export it. I don't
| think iPads are used as file storage devices, just as inputs to
| bring somewhere else.
| amatecha wrote:
| It's hilarious, so many people seem to want to get rid of
| files and folders, but every single development team I've
| ever been on has a ton of documentation, working documents,
| prototypes, etc. organized in... get this: a hierarchical
| structure. Files within folders within other folders, and so
| on. Whether literal filesystem or web-based interface or
| whatever. I've never once seen a project of any sort happen
| without some kind of structure and hierarchy in the data that
| everyone is working within. Even all the cloud stuff
| implements these paradigms (is there any that doesn't?)...
|
| For working on computers, "getting rid of the concept of
| files" is just not a realistic idea whatsoever. It's no
| surprise the metaphor has worked for 50+ years.
| kzrdude wrote:
| > "iCloud" or "OneDrive" or "C:\" or "Document" or "Desktop".
|
| Desktops have been slowly edging in that direction, but I don't
| think it helps. I guess it depends on what kind of brain you
| have, but I can't do this. I need something spatial, a quite
| rigid structure. I use shallow hierarchies (folders!).
| agumonkey wrote:
| Write a spec and seek funding :)
| AussieWog93 wrote:
| >Mobile OSs have been rather successful in getting rid of this
| implementation detail.
|
| Dear God, the lack of proper file management on mobile is
| absolutely awful and makes so many things harder than they need
| to be. I really hope desktop OSes don't go down that path.
| hajile wrote:
| Are there any api changes? I'd love to see a new version moving
| to feature parity with vulkan.
| awestroke wrote:
| Literally the only interesting feature, to me, is Low Power Mode
| merb wrote:
| which fixes the gpu overheating with external displays. took a
| while for them to find a fix...
| eirikvaa wrote:
| Wow, really? OK, now I'm actually excited.
| duffyjp wrote:
| My PowerPC G4 PowerBooks have that.
| aserdf wrote:
| is CSAM scanning included?
| concinds wrote:
| Note that Apple never included macOS in the initial
| announcement. They just included it for the Siri changes, and
| possibly the Messages changes.
| aserdf wrote:
| after a quick re-read I see what you are saying, it initially
| seemed like Monterrey was included with the on-device
| scanning but good news if not.
| threeseed wrote:
| Yes. If you use iCloud Photo Library then CSAM is scanned
| server-side.
|
| Same it has always been and no different to every other
| service.
| aserdf wrote:
| I am referring to the on device flavor - if it does not apply
| to macOS that is great.
| gjsman-1000 wrote:
| Nope - not client-side, but server-side, it's been there for,
| like, half a decade.
| tandav wrote:
| Untill os source code is closed you can't be Shure that
| they're not do scanning.
| joshka wrote:
| That Focus mode would be killer if it integrated some sort of
| pomodoro / calendar integration.
| ascagnel_ wrote:
| There are people that do some wild things with shortcuts, I
| wouldn't be surprised if someone has already done the work with
| that.
|
| Edit: It looks like shortcuts won't be able to set (or clear)
| focus modes, so that'll have to wait. Bummer.
| CraigJPerry wrote:
| That's unfortunate, you can set focus modes from shortcuts on
| ios.
|
| When i turn on my Bluetooth speaker in the shower room it
| goes into a focus mode that diverts all calls for 15 mins and
| resumes my podcasts. I thought the experience on macos was
| supposed to be a superset of the ios one. Really poor
| decision by apple then.
| tailspin2019 wrote:
| I'm totally stealing this idea.
| movedx wrote:
| Check out Cold Turkey.
| amelius wrote:
| Article reads like an ad.
| Jtsummers wrote:
| It is an ad. It's on Apple's website advertising their new OS
| release.
| fourseventy wrote:
| lol
| Waterluvian wrote:
| I've been away from MacOS for about 10 years. Big Sur now. Kinda
| hate it. I keep accidentally invoking extra layers of UI
| everywhere. That's fine I guess.
|
| But what I ran into that I LOVE is making EVERY app full-screen,
| pretending there is no desktop or window management, and just
| swiping right/left among them.
|
| I wish there was a way to smooth out the UX so that this feels
| first-class and I stop accidentally breaking this illusion at
| times.
| X6S1x6Okd1st wrote:
| Funny, I hate that aspect
| Waterluvian wrote:
| Behold why UIs get super bloated over time. Users can want
| entirely different things. =)
| pier25 wrote:
| Same. I never use spaces or apps in fullscreen (except when
| watching videos).
|
| I find it way easier to do CMD + TAB to switch between apps,
| than having to switch between spaces until I get to where I
| want to be.
| nsonha wrote:
| I think window management in Mac leaves much to be desired (hot
| key and snapping floating windows). But associate fullscreeen
| window/split with a new workspace is actually one thing it does
| right. I installed an addon on Gnome just to emulate that.
|
| Split is kind of useless with an ultrawide monitor though, I
| wish it was 3 columns
| Vinnl wrote:
| What Gnome extension was that? Sounds interesting, so I'd
| like to give it a try.
| kayodelycaon wrote:
| In all seriousness, there is an app for macOS window
| management. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bettersnaptool/id41
| 7375580?mt=...
| runjake wrote:
| One free option for Mac: https://rectangleapp.com/
| nsonha wrote:
| I use it, not the point though, should be built-in.
| rubyist5eva wrote:
| I don't think expecting Apple to implement every single
| pet feature of every single power user is something that
| is reasonable.
| Humphrey wrote:
| Install ShiftIt - customisable shortcut keys for almost all
| window layout options.
| rewtraw wrote:
| Honestly sounds like you might want an iPad.
|
| I recently got one to use as a secondary display just for Slack
| /Discord/etc, but after connecting a trackpad & keyboard I
| totally fell in love. It's a very simplistic environment, but
| it's actually quite nice as an alternative to the full-blown
| macOS.
| Waterluvian wrote:
| Hmm. Not a crazy idea. simplification is appealing to me. But
| I'm guessing it's still not really a computer? Can I get
| iterm2 with bash and vscode and rust?
| Jtsummers wrote:
| > Can I get iterm2 with bash and vscode and rust?
|
| Not really. The best dev experience I have with the iPad is
| using Blink to mosh into (the mobility mosh offers over SSH
| is key for me) a server, which lets me run whatever I want
| on it. But if you're developing GUI applications, it's not
| really that great.
|
| You can use something like Working Copy for git and
| Textastic for editing programs on the iPad, but it's not
| really a proper IDE (even a light IDE) just a syntax aware
| editor. If I'm not using emacs on the server, I use those
| for my code editing purposes.
| edvinbesic wrote:
| Have you found a consistent way to get color schemes
| working for vim/tmux when running over mosh?
|
| Haven't tried mosh in a while but this was my biggest
| gripe, over what is otherwise an amazing mobile
| experience.
| cassianoleal wrote:
| You can run VS Code in the browser:
| https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2021/10/20/vscode-dev
|
| One of their listed use-cases is exactly this:
|
| > Develop on your iPad. You can upload/download files
| (and even store them in the cloud using the Files app),
| as well as open repositories remotely with the built-in
| GitHub Repositories extension.
| Uehreka wrote:
| People say this, and then when you say "sure but one of my
| full screen apps is VS Code and another one is the Terminal,
| how do I get that on an iPad?" they go "Honestly sounds like
| you might want a Mac."
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