[HN Gopher] Learning to Live with Durians Again
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       Learning to Live with Durians Again
        
       Author : Thevet
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2021-10-23 04:19 UTC (18 hours ago)
        
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       | greenbush wrote:
       | If you've never had the opportunity to try a durian:
       | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/travel/a-love-letter-to-a-...
        
       | wayeq wrote:
       | sure is a lot of words
        
       | atribecalledqst wrote:
       | I had a coworker bring a durian shake or something like that to
       | work. This was probably a month or so after he started. I don't
       | think anybody ever really forgave him.
        
         | poulsbohemian wrote:
         | Did it actually smell? I would have thought by the time it was
         | mixed into a shake that there wouldn't really be much smell?
        
         | mynegation wrote:
         | That would be a worthy contender to reheating fish in the
         | cafeteria microwave.
        
       | chana_masala wrote:
       | I wonder what makes people who like them become proselytizers of
       | the Durian religion. That is, why does it seem that you are
       | either obsessed with (addicted to?) Durian or are completely
       | repulsed by it. Somehow I am in the middle which doesn't seem
       | common. I don't think Durians stink but they also don't excite me
       | that much.
        
         | krallja wrote:
         | Survivor bias. It's such a bad experience that nobody would eat
         | it unless they REALLY liked it.
        
           | inglor_cz wrote:
           | I suspect we are just wired differently. Much like some
           | people can't stand cilantro (tastes like soap to them).
           | 
           | I absolutely love durian and I rue the fact that it is hard
           | to find (and expensive) in Central Europe. I find the odor
           | strong, but not repulsive.
           | 
           | My wife, OTOH, hates it with passion. She cannot eat it even
           | outdoors, where the wind blows the smell away.
        
         | thrower123 wrote:
         | I suspect it's genetic, like whether you find cilantro a tasty
         | garnish or like grating Ivory soap onto your tacos.
        
       | thriftwy wrote:
       | Do they really speak Mandarin in Singapore, I wonder? I thought
       | they would be on some southern dialect.
       | 
       | Or does she use the word in place of just "Chinese"?
        
         | krallja wrote:
         | CIA World Facebook says:
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         | English (official) 48.3%, Mandarin (official) 29.9%, other
         | Chinese dialects (includes Hokkien, Cantonese, Teochew, Hakka)
         | 8.7%, Malay (official) 9.2%, Tamil (official) 2.5%, other 1.4%;
         | note - data represent language most frequently spoken at home
         | (2020 est.)
        
         | xyzzy21 wrote:
         | They DO speak Mandarin there (and English) because Chinese-
         | Singporeans tend to dominate and outnumber the other groups
         | politically and demographically.
         | 
         | Mandarian is a unique dialect of Chinese. Singaporeans also
         | speak other dialects of Chinese in Singapore but Mandarin is
         | one of the official languages of Singapore so it's what is
         | taught in schools.
         | 
         | You can find elements of Hokkien, Hakka and Cantonese dialects
         | mixed into typical Singaporean Mandarin. These have been
         | frowned upon by academics and the government (Singlish has also
         | been frowned upon and incorporates them also) but that hasn't
         | changed the use of these.
         | 
         | https://theheartlander.org/2021/08/28/the-last-vestiges-of-c...
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaU7_k8I3o
         | 
         | Taiwan has similar dialects: there is Taiwan Mandarin as well
         | as Taiwanese and Taiwan English.
         | 
         | Fun Fact: Singapore and mainland China use simplified Chinese
         | characters. Taiwan and Hong Kong use traditional Chinese
         | characters.
        
         | hawflakes wrote:
         | The word "heaty" is used for "hot" foods. There's a concept in
         | traditional Chinese medicine for categorizing foods as hot or
         | cold. Not temperature but having to do with inflammation.
         | 
         | Suffice it to say it seems to be a false friend of the
         | Cantonese pronunciation of the word Re  which is pronounced
         | "yeet" (re in Mandarin)
        
       | inawarminister wrote:
       | Hmm I don't know why Singaporeans are so obsessed and repelled by
       | Durian.
       | 
       | It's just a fruit. King of the fruits, as the poets say, but
       | there are a lot of other fruits in the same tier as well.
       | 
       | But as others said, it's probably partly genetical and
       | habituation. Here in Jakarta durian is almost universal in the
       | proper season, and the smell does not turn off people, on the
       | contrary it signals a savory fruit.
       | 
       | Though I myself don't like durian that much. I'll eat it, but not
       | to the point of obsession. I got rambutan for that haha.
       | 
       | Getting hit by a flying durian and die is a not that uncommon way
       | of death though. At least in the pop culture.
        
       | dqv wrote:
       | >Was my rejection of the durian, Southeast Asia's King of Fruits,
       | a betrayal of my cultural identity, of my life in Singapore?
       | 
       | No. There are Japanese people who don't like sushi. There are
       | Koreans who don't like kimchi. (I only mention these things
       | because they are foods I've had before that I really like.) And
       | we can catalog people from all over the world who don't like
       | certain things they are assumed to like because of their cultural
       | identity.
       | 
       | It's bizarre that we have these strong ideals of _not_
       | stereotyping people and yet these reverse stereotypes are so
       | common. You 're not rejecting culture because you have
       | preferences.
       | 
       | But hey if it was just her not liking Durian for some other
       | reason and learning to like it, that's great.
        
         | kryptiskt wrote:
         | 9 of 10 Swedes despise surstromming.
        
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