[HN Gopher] Hackernews.com
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Hackernews.com
Author : related
Score : 177 points
Date : 2021-10-22 16:21 UTC (6 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (hackernews.com)
| athorax wrote:
| host.io shows 65 other domains that re-direct to ycombinator.com.
| Can't search specifically for ones that re-direct specifically to
| news.ycombinator.com afaik
|
| https://host.io/ycombinator.com
|
| Particularly enjoyed ireallylikechicken.com that redirects to an
| HN thread talking about squatting that domain
| sjtindell wrote:
| Funny, thanks for sharing.
| woolion wrote:
| This solves a longstanding problem. When recommending "hacker
| news" to people, they would immediately get suspicious. What's up
| with this weird address? Why combinator? It would immediately
| devolve into weird discussions. It's actually linked to Haskell
| Curry, who was neither Indian, nor Greek, despite this lambda
| thing. And no, this is not a new Covid variant. A real nightmare.
| But thankfully, all this is over now.
| perrohunter wrote:
| [hackernews.com] the news that hack the hackers
| iamunr wrote:
| hckrnews.com/
|
| I've used this for ages.
| munk-a wrote:
| Ha - that'll make it easier to refer folks to the website. I hope
| to never need to utter - "Oh you should checkout Hacker News, go
| to news dot why combinator dot com, I think it will be right up
| your alley."
| JimiofEden wrote:
| It's convenient, but I've developed muscle memory to just type
| news.ycombinator over the last 10 years, so I guess it doesn't
| matter much for me.
|
| When I first discovered the site, I definitely had to google
| 'hacker news' in order to find it consistently, however, so maybe
| someone else can get good use out of it.
| gordon_freeman wrote:
| I have bookmarked HN and added it to my iPhone Home Screen so
| does not matter to me either. It shows up just like a normal
| app on my iPhone :)
| manaskarekar wrote:
| You mean type 'n' and hit enter.
| arc-in-space wrote:
| At least once a day firefox lags out, doesn't autofill and
| instead takes me to search?q=n
| Exuma wrote:
| command+l,n,enter
| [deleted]
| munk-a wrote:
| That hits me where I live. I too have taught firefox that `n`
| means "please autofill to news.ycombinator.com".
| tlrobinson wrote:
| I black-holed news.ycombinator.com on my work computer by
| adding it to my /etc/hosts file, but my subconscious
| compensated by going to news.google.com often enough that now
| 'n' + enter takes me there.
| skinkestek wrote:
| At some point in time I drilled this sequence into my
| fingers:
|
| ctrl-t, ne, ctrl-w
|
| i.e. new tab, start typing news.ycombinator.com,
| immediately interrupt myself and close the tab.
|
| These days I have hn mapped to 0.0.0.0 in my hosts file.
| gpderetta wrote:
| And yet both if you are here.
|
| _starts closing his 42 open HN tabs_
| webmaven wrote:
| In my case, it is 'n' + '|' + enter
| antoineMoPa wrote:
| This trick does not work anymore since I visited netflix :(
| vbezhenar wrote:
| If you're using Google Chrome, shift+delete offenders.
| soperj wrote:
| works in firefox as well.
| BbzzbB wrote:
| Using Firefox or Chrome solves this problem as you don't
| get full quality for Netflix on them, hence there's no
| address collision as you resort to using Edge (or else?)
| for Netflix.
| Graffur wrote:
| Huh? You don't get full quality on Netflix in some
| browsers?
| NobodyNada wrote:
| That's correct: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444
|
| > Netflix is available in Ultra HD on Windows and Mac
| computers with:
|
| > - Microsoft Edge for Windows
|
| > - Windows 10 App
|
| > - Safari for MacOS 11.0 or later
|
| I believe this is for DRM reasons -- Firefox is open-
| source, so they don't want you modifying your copy of
| Firefox to bypass DRM or whatever.
| Sohcahtoa82 wrote:
| Does spoofing your user-agent bypass that?
| nitrogen wrote:
| You probably can't spoof the DRM.
| djbusby wrote:
| I just configure the New Tab to go directly here, Ctrl+N for
| News
| kuroguro wrote:
| I just reroute all of my outgoing traffic to HN. Whatever I
| try to do I end up here. /s
| montebicyclelo wrote:
| I just glue hn to my face. I see it when I open my eyes.
| ignoramous wrote:
| I have hn CRISPRed into my genes, programmed carefully in
| multi-core OCaml backed by Postgres.
| tomcam wrote:
| Sorry, but if you check your so-called junk DNA you'll
| find I Base64-encoded it there already
| codq wrote:
| The ultimate productivity hack
| berkes wrote:
| Or, to be honest, a "more productive procrastination
| hack".
| xibalba wrote:
| I'm a Neuralink alpha tester. I configured it to open an
| HN tab on every device when I wink my left eye.
|
| Do I win?
| 6510 wrote:
| I have a dedicated monitor - so no.
| ruined wrote:
| when does neuralink hit beta? i can't wait to train
| myself into a new facial tic whenever i'm feeling
| slightly bored
| jagger27 wrote:
| Newegg is the worst collision for me.
| siva7 wrote:
| yes as tragic as it is for over a decade already
| tednash wrote:
| I've always liked hackerne.ws :)
| makz wrote:
| I just type "new" enter
| agumonkey wrote:
| seems that hn.com is unused..
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| Sometimes I think I am the only person left in the world who
| still uses the "Bookmarks" feature of my web browser.
| gtirloni wrote:
| I only really use the bookmarks in the toolbar. Anything that
| gets bookmarked away from that is in the "will read it
| eventually but not really" territory.
| cecilpl2 wrote:
| Same, and I edit all my toolbar bookmarks to have no text,
| so it's just a row of favicons.
| JorgeGT wrote:
| Same, it would be cool to color the favicons differently
| (looking at my multiple Grafana bookmarks...)
| sumtechguy wrote:
| Think some of my bookmarks date back to mosaic. About once a
| year I sweep them and purge a good amount of them as I have
| hundreds nicely organized into categories. They 'rot' so not
| worth keeping. Sometimes I will point them at archive but
| usually I can not even remember why I bookmarked them in the
| first place.
| kingcharles wrote:
| I was just away from the Internet for 8 years. When I
| checked my bookmarks 99% of them were dead links. I wonder
| how many from Mosaic days would still be valid?
| cmeacham98 wrote:
| Serious question: were you in prison? If not, how/why did
| you take an 8 year break?
| kingcharles wrote:
| Close enough! County jail waiting for a trial.
| onychomys wrote:
| Yikes, eight years waiting for a trial? Whatever happened
| to the 6th amendment?
| kingcharles wrote:
| There were people with me who are about to pass into
| their 12th year.
|
| See here: https://www.cookcountysheriff.org/wp-
| content/uploads/2021/09...
| withinboredom wrote:
| saw this charge in there:
|
| > POSSESS BURGLARY TOOLS
|
| You can go to jail for that? I've had to break into my
| own home several times since living here because I've
| accidentally locked myself out.
| kingcharles wrote:
| Yes, in Illinois. Things like bump keys are illegal.
|
| Here's the full list.. most of it centers on intent, but
| intent can be inferred in some cases: https://www.ilga.go
| v/legislation/ilcs/documents/072000050K19...
| dylan604 wrote:
| Maybe they had a friend named Wilson on a long vacation
| on an island? Maybe they were the star in a day time soap
| where they were in a coma for 8 years.
| tudorw wrote:
| Who would want a lifetime searchable, contextually indexed,
| history of all the sites you've ever been to and perhaps a
| couple of sub-pages automatically scraped, all stored locally
| to be shared at your discretion, I'm sure Google would love
| to add that asap.
| metagame wrote:
| It's because the UX for them is awful and takes up valuable
| real-estate unless you put them in a folder that's nowhere
| near your toolbar in which case you will never see them
| again, especially after a Mozilla update corrupts them,
| leaving you without the URLs you so carefully curated and
| with a vague sense of regret that you trusted one of the most
| important things (your memory) to a company that gets the
| largest majority of its revenue from search engine deals and
| the other tenth for a half-thought out proprietary bookmarks
| replacement they force you to waste hard drive space with.
| marcosdumay wrote:
| > unless you put them in a folder that's nowhere near your
| toolbar
|
| Hum? My bookmarks toolbar is full of folders. Some are of
| the "open all and close each when there's nothing
| interesting" kind, others are of the "will probably be
| useful later" kind.
| cmeacham98 wrote:
| In firefox, you can configure the bookmarks toolbar to only
| show on the new tab page, which is super useful because it
| doesn't steal screen space on your normal tabs.
| metagame wrote:
| I'm aware (that's how I have it configured), but that
| doesn't solve many of the problems with bookmarks.
| elondaits wrote:
| I use the bookmark bar in Chrome but edit all bookmarks to
| remove their title... so I have a bar full of favicons,
| which is enough to have one click access to most sites I
| use.
| nhumrich wrote:
| In Firefox, you can "keyword" your bookmarks so that typing
| a specific string goes to your bookmark
| Springtime wrote:
| It's definitely more convenient. I have mine set to 'hn'
| in Vivaldi browser to take me there.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| I think I stopped using them when the browsers inexplicably
| lost their menus.
|
| I don't really understand why the menus went away from the
| top of web browser, since desktop screen space hasn't been an
| issue since the late '90s, even on laptops.
| sva_ wrote:
| You can put a bookmark folder with no title in the toolbar
| next to the addressbar, into which you put whatever you
| want. In Firefox, that works out of the box. Recently I
| switched to Vivaldi, and I had to use some css tweak to do
| it:
|
| https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/24849/bookmarks-in-
| address-b...
| jpindar wrote:
| Firefox has menus on the top, unless the user hides them.
| colejohnson66 wrote:
| Isn't it hidden by default? I installed Firefox on a new
| machine a few months ago and I could swear I had to
| unhide it.
| Narishma wrote:
| It's hidden but it shows up if you press Alt.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| I've never hidden anything, yet my Firefox only has an
| out-of-place mobile style menu.
| 1_player wrote:
| Bookmarks is where interesting links go to die and resolve to
| dead sites when you try and visit one 5 years later.
| rdudek wrote:
| Muscle memory is big with this one. But Chrome now has an icon
| right at the start page to go here.
| crate_barre wrote:
| Then I must be the worst person in the world because I still
| Google HN to get here.
| iamricks wrote:
| i google hacker news and click the first link
| dc3k wrote:
| hckrnews.com is the only way I view the site. Just needs dark
| mode (I guess I can just use darkreader, but built in would be
| cool)
| peterkelly wrote:
| For a moment I thought this was going to be a version of the site
| with megabytes of javascript, 50+ third-party tracking/ad
| network/analytics scripts, facebook/twitter/reddit "share" links,
| a cookie consent dialog allowing me to accept all or "manage my
| preferences", autoplaying videos about an unrelated story on each
| page, a sidebar with thumbnails + clickbait headlines that
| distracts from the main content, and a popup window that appears
| once I scroll down past 30% inviting me to subscribe.
|
| I was pleasantly surprised.
| dogma1138 wrote:
| I've always used hckrnews.com I actually wonder what's the % of
| people that use this site directly vs the number of people that
| use an aggregator.
| pchanda wrote:
| Same here. I certainly find the chronological listing better
| than an opaque algorithm. Also able to filter the top 20 posts
| of the day.
| vadfa wrote:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7971573
|
| Also:
| http://web.archive.org/web/19981202000844/http://www.hackern...
| agumonkey wrote:
| I clicked twice.
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| old/not news
|
| some previous discussion about it:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7971415
| ksec wrote:
| But did the domain redirect to this site before?
| vizzah wrote:
| It's been hckrnews.com for me for ages.. and loving it:)
| bigodbiel wrote:
| I'm glad googling hacker news always brought me to ycombinator!
| moralestapia wrote:
| So, should we meta discuss the site now?
| dang wrote:
| In general no, but there are carnivals.
| aine wrote:
| Wow, never heard of that website before! Now spending an hour
| every day, because it's so cool!
| keskadale wrote:
| hackerne.ws
|
| redirects to news.ycombinator.com
| lonk wrote:
| hacker.news too
| spicybright wrote:
| Finally!!!
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| With a different registrar to ycombinator.com, this is likely not
| owned by Y Combinator, and therefore difficult to trust that it
| won't start being malicious in the future.
| ericlewis wrote:
| It's been registered for a very long time too. I recently
| launched a hacker news app for iOS and am using
| hackernews.cloud for the various backend services (favicons,
| summaries, read-time, etc)
| itsnotlupus wrote:
| Right. Once upon a time, it used to be a decent resource for
| computer security-oriented news items.
| dageshi wrote:
| That's ringing a bell, I feel like I once had that site in
| regular rotation with slashdot.
| dang wrote:
| It's owned by YC now. We got it earlier this year. That's why
| it redirects to HN!
| Graffur wrote:
| Does this indicate other incoming changes?
| dang wrote:
| Nope.
| sjtindell wrote:
| That's great news! Thanks.
| ushakov wrote:
| glad you do now! how much did it cost?
| yashasolutions wrote:
| _everything_
| mightytightywty wrote:
| Shouldn't news.ycombinator.com redirect to hackernews.com
| instead?
| judge2020 wrote:
| Biggest problem with this would be broken password
| managers.
| clusterfish wrote:
| HN is an YC platform where YC companies and founders have
| special perks by design. It is nice to have it on
| ycombinator.com subdomain for clarity.
| dang wrote:
| We'd need a compelling reason to do a major surgery like
| that. It's possible to imagine scenarios, so it's great to
| have the option, but I think it would be a mistake to
| exercise it just-because. I say that for at least two
| reasons: (1) users hate change; and (2) the feedback loops
| between HN and YC are vital to both, so it would be bad to
| weaken them.
| joecool1029 wrote:
| If I might suggest a major: (3) breaks SEO for
| potentially a very long time causing HN to fall out of
| search results to common queries on the major search
| engines. (I'm aware of site move tools and 301's, but we
| almost always see some decline on a domain switchover
| that takes time to recover)
| dang wrote:
| Great point.
| motohagiography wrote:
| Congratulations. I am very happy to read this, as, imo,
| that's value and a win for some very solid people all around!
| xbar wrote:
| ...and there was much rejoicing!
| ggrelet wrote:
| Out of curiosity, is it the result of this "Ask HN": Why is
| YC not owning the domain Hacker News.com yet?
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25375903
| kgwxd wrote:
| Couldn't strike a deal with lanxiongchuanmeiyouxiangongsi for
| hn.com?
| dang wrote:
| We need to pass Go a few more times first.
| nathell wrote:
| Go? Isn't Rust all the rage these days?
| rahimnathwani wrote:
| Doesn't hurt to ask :)
|
| Maybe contact them?
|
| http://www.lanxiong.cn/contact
| kokanee wrote:
| It would be interesting if YC ran two instances of the same HN
| app at different URLs, to see how the content & communities
| diverge over time. But it would only be interesting if you
| launched them at the same time, due to the effect of domain
| authority.
| GekkePrutser wrote:
| Oh wow they obtained the hackernews.com domain?
|
| There's another website named hacker news (
| https://thehackernews.com ), more focused on the security realm.
| Every time I mention this site, my colleagues in security think I
| mean that other one. That one's nothing special though.
|
| I think the new domain will help recognition of this site. I hope
| the old one will remain the primary though! Though I'm kinda
| happy if HN doesn't grow too huge. If it becomes the new reddit I
| won't want to be here anymore.
| clusterfish wrote:
| It is already a lot more like Reddit than it used to be just a
| few years ago. For example, the comments on some submissions
| are full of stupid jokes now, gradually drowning out actually
| interesting discussion. IMO HN was better when it was dry,
| boring, and insightful. It is less and less of that every year.
|
| Example from this very submission:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28962122
|
| I'm sure there are more people who want to see these content-
| free comments than not. That's exactly why Reddit is full of
| them, and why HN was special.
| dang wrote:
| The perception that HN is trending Redditward has been around
| for so long, it even predates HN itself!
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13852
|
| Of course there are vectors pointing that way, and datapoints
| on those vectors, but there are also countervailing forces. I
| think after 14+ years we can at least say it's not
| collapsing. That's the reason for the final guideline of
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html (note those
| carefully curated links! I spent an afternoon on that.)
| wolverine876 wrote:
| > It is already a lot more like Reddit than it used to be
| just a few years ago.
|
| From the Guidelines:
|
| > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into
| Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.
|
| Last few words are linked:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=926703
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| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=633099
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=582513
|
| And three more, but I have other things to do.
| FDSGSG wrote:
| >There's another website named hacker news (
| https://thehackernews.com ), more focused on the security
| realm. Every time I mention this site, my colleagues in
| security think I mean that other one. That one's nothing
| special though.
|
| It's incredible that people would actually read that website,
| some of the worst quality blogspam on the internet.
| waynesonfire wrote:
| firefox lets you assign labels to bookmarks. i just type
| `hackernews` in the URL bar and it opens the URL associated with
| that bookmark.
| foxhill wrote:
| hi dang, i see you're replying to some of these comments. would
| hn ever consider releasing vague stats about viewership,
| submissions, etc.
|
| i, and i think others, would be super interested to see how the
| community has grown over the last.. however many years i've been
| here!
| dang wrote:
| Sure, we do that sometimes, just ad hoc rather than
| systematically. It's currently at something like 5M monthly
| unique users (well, IPs - hard to count unique users) and 6M
| daily page views. 1200(ish) submissions per day and 12k
| comments per day.
|
| HN has been growing much the same way for 10+ years - linearly,
| but with fairly large swings up and down. If you step back and
| squint, it's unmistakeably linear. We like it that way. Growth
| is important, but rapid growth would be unstable. This is a
| community not a startup!
|
| The one thing that _hasn 't_ grown much, since 2012, is the
| number of submissions per day. Comments yes, but submissions
| no. Why? I have no idea. Maybe there's a cap on how much
| content is out there.
| yissp wrote:
| Seems to be full of finance-obcessed man-children and
| brogrammers.
| philosopher1234 wrote:
| I wonder what their take on racism in America is... oh... never
| mind...
| dang wrote:
| Besides being snarky, that's a canard. HN is divided on
| topics where society at large is divided, just like any
| large-enough population sample. There's no "their" there, and
| defining the whole by the part you most dislike is a
| cognitive bias (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&
| prefix=true&que...) - a common one. The people you disagree
| with are complaining just as much about how your side
| dominates.
|
| If there's a difference with HN, it's that the site is non-
| siloed, meaning everyone's in one big room, so you're more
| likely to run into people and views you deplore than on other
| sites where you choose in advance whom to follow. I believe
| that's to HN's credit, at least for those who believe in
| communication as opposed to just smiting enemies. But it's a
| credit that people usually experience as a debit, because it
| can be so unpleasant to run into. I wrote about this here:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098.
|
| Usually when I mention society being divided, people assume
| it's about polarization in the U.S., which is true. But it's
| worse than that, because HN is a highly international site
| and I can tell you that cross-national and cross-cultural
| divisions are at least as much of a stress, and much less
| understood. People often misinterpret and assume that they're
| dealing with an extremist next door when they're actually
| talking to someone on the other side of the world.
|
| In person, we automatically recognize and modulate such
| situations; even when we find someone's views abhorrent,
| we're more willing to take into account their different
| background, realize they're not working with the same
| information that we are, and go for persuasion and
| explanation rather than jumping straight into aggression and
| battle. But on an internet text forum where nearly everyone
| has excellent English, people are at the mercy of these
| misunderstandings and don't even realize it.
| er4hn wrote:
| > In person, we automatically recognize and modulate such
| situations; even when we find someone's views abhorrent,
| we're more willing to take into account their different
| background, realize they're not working with the same
| information that we are, and go for persuasion and
| education rather than jumping straight into aggression and
| battle. But on an internet text forum where nearly everyone
| has excellent English, people are at the mercy of these
| misunderstandings and don't even realize it.
|
| I really love this insight. It's something that we see so
| often on here as a point around Twitter, Facebook, and
| engagement. Mark Twain's quote about leaving your house
| (sure it was your community at the time) still rings true
| today: "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-
| mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these
| accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and
| things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little
| corner of the earth all one's lifetime."
| simonh wrote:
| Minimalist version of Slashdot. Meh.
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