[HN Gopher] The City Which Would Not Be Cowed: The Great Chicago...
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       The City Which Would Not Be Cowed: The Great Chicago Fire of 1871
        
       Author : samclemens
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2021-10-20 16:50 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | cpound wrote:
       | Thanks for posting this--a few weeks ago, I also read Robert
       | Loerzel's article "The Great Chicago Fire, As Told By Those Who
       | Lived Through It" in Chicago Magazine and found it riveting:
       | 
       | https://www.chicagomag.com/chicago-magazine/october-2021/ins...
        
       | cafard wrote:
       | Somewhere or other Carl Sandburg repeats or invents a story of a
       | Confederate general who happened to be in Chicago then, and
       | telegraphed back to Atlanta "Chicago on fire, whole town burning,
       | God be praised!"
        
       | a9h74j wrote:
       | In a later incident, because San Francisco had no cow to blame,
       | they blamed their great fire on an Earthquake.
        
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       | massysett wrote:
       | The "American History Tellers" podcast did a great series on the
       | Great Chicago Fire.
       | 
       | https://wondery.com/shows/american-history-tellers/episode/5...
        
       | OldHand2018 wrote:
       | The Chicago Fire Department training academy occupies the site
       | where Mrs. O'Leary's barn stood.
       | 
       | Also, if you'd like a souvenir from the Great Chicago Fire, head
       | over the 12th Street beach any time there a big storm out of the
       | north. The south corner will have an accumulation of stuff washed
       | up from the lake (which is where they pushed all the debris).
       | Terra cotta, bricks, glass, porcelain, etc.
        
         | Accujack wrote:
         | I have an antique book printed just after the fire. It actually
         | has a diagram of the barn showing the position of the lamp, the
         | cow, and straw on the floor.
        
         | vidanay wrote:
         | I'm not sure that's all being washed up there. I think that
         | might be the core of Northerly Island being exposed by erosion.
        
           | OldHand2018 wrote:
           | Hmm, you may be somewhat more correct.
           | 
           | At lot (most?) of the fire debris went to fill in the space
           | between the "lakefront" and the Illinois Central tracks.
           | 
           | Northerly Island was built in the early 1920s, supposedly
           | with a lot of fill from the downtown, near west and near
           | south - where the fire raged. But you know that Northerly
           | Island has been expanded many times! If you look at a
           | satellite photo, you see a north-south straight line
           | "barrier" in the pond? That's the sea-wall of the original
           | Northerly Island - far to the west of the beach.
           | 
           | So anyway, an awful lot of Grant Park - where the original
           | fire landfill was dumped - is a green roof. Over the largest
           | underground parking structure in North America... So when
           | they excavated that, where did they dump it? Northerly Island
           | was being expanded... Who knows?
           | 
           | Some of the things I've found there definitely date back to
           | the 1800s.
        
       | 1cvmask wrote:
       | Has resilience changed over time?
       | 
       | The city recovered relatively quickly in 1871, but has still
       | failed to completely recover from the 1968 riots:
       | 
       | Following the riots, Chicago experienced a food shortage, and the
       | city's needs were barely met by volunteers bringing food to the
       | area. Results of the riots include the increase in pace of the
       | area's ongoing deindustrialization and public and private
       | disinvestment. Bulldozers moved in to clean up after the rioters,
       | leaving behind vacant lots, many of which remain today.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Chicago_riots
        
         | AlbertCory wrote:
         | This is a bit of overgeneralization. "The city" was not
         | experiencing a food shortage; the riot areas may well have
         | been.
         | 
         | As for the difference between 1871 and 1968: Chicago was a bit
         | smaller back then.
        
           | lotsofpulp wrote:
           | Also, advances in rail, air travel, and shipping from Asia
           | probably reduced the demand for rebuilding Chicago. And
           | westward expansion of the US in general.
        
       | robertheadley wrote:
       | This headline should be appreciated.
        
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