[HN Gopher] How to get useful answers to your questions
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       How to get useful answers to your questions
        
       Author : ingve
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2021-10-21 17:29 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | city41 wrote:
       | If posting your question where a subject will be used (email,
       | forums, reddit, etc), don't just make the subject "need help!".
       | You've made it luck of the draw who clicks through. "Need help
       | with React Router" will likely improve the quality of people who
       | click through.
       | 
       | Similarly, on chat programs, don't PM people. Please! If you have
       | a general technical/business/etc question, a channel is a far
       | better venue: everyone in the channel can be a candidate to
       | answer. You increase the odds of someone being available to
       | answer. Your answer goes into the search history and possibly
       | helps other people who currently have the same question but are
       | afraid to ask. It's also really unfair to put all of the onus
       | onto one person via PM. If the person you would have PM'd is able
       | to answer, they can also answer in the channel.
        
         | switch007 wrote:
         | Yes, DMs are for bitching and personal information. Everything
         | else should be in channels.
         | 
         | Edit: even some bitching should be rephrased constructively and
         | put in a public channel!
        
       | wiz21c wrote:
       | FTA> don't accept responses that don't answer your question
       | 
       | You can do that twice, after the person you're talking to tires.
       | 
       | One of my helpful questions when people have hard time to measure
       | something, I ask with power of 10. For example
       | 
       | Me:"how long to have an approval for project X?"
       | 
       | X:"Dunno, really, tough question..."
       | 
       | Me:"A day ? Ten day, 100 days"
       | 
       | X "no, not 100 days, yeah more like 50"...
       | 
       | Somehow it helps people to think about it even when they don't
       | want to answer.
        
         | kayodelycaon wrote:
         | People can determine order of magnitude much easier than giving
         | a more specific timeline.
         | 
         | For support or feature requests, I use this progression:
         | - Minutes         - Hours         - Days         - Sprints (2
         | weeks)         - Quarters
         | 
         | It's a lot less work for people to figure out what category
         | their request belongs in.
         | 
         | Note: In my company, next quarter means planned for next
         | quarter, not ignore indefinitely.
        
         | xboxnolifes wrote:
         | To me, this is similar to the same concept of the paradox of
         | choose. Ask someone where they want to eat, and there are too
         | many options too choose from, and they are also thinking about
         | what you may want to eat as well. Provide them 3 options to
         | choose from, and it gets the decision moving.
        
       | nnf wrote:
       | Another tip I use a lot: ask just one question per email.
       | 
       | This seems inefficient, and it is, but there's a subset of people
       | with whom I communicate in my industry, and they almost always
       | will only answer one of my questions if I put multiple questions
       | in an email. Even a simple one like:
       | 
       | > Two quick questions for you:
       | 
       | > 1. Do you want this or that?
       | 
       | > 2. Which do you like better, A or B?
       | 
       | Limiting to a single question and then following up with a second
       | question takes longer, but I don't feel rude having to point out
       | the second question that was missed/ignored from my initial
       | email.
        
         | kayodelycaon wrote:
         | I use this tip as well. People don't read... until they do.
         | 
         | This is a bit of a tangent...
         | 
         | My incident reports are a good example of the reverse: giving
         | good answers.
         | 
         | * The first two sentences will explain what happened, the scope
         | of impact, when it was fixed, and a plan of action.
         | 
         | * The next paragraph or two has the important details.
         | 
         | * Everything after is a detailed timeline (down to the minute
         | if that information is available.)
         | 
         | This allows anyone reading the email to read as much as they
         | want without having to read everything.
         | 
         | Effective communication is hard.
        
         | abfan1127 wrote:
         | the number of 2 question emails ignored infuriates me! I hate
         | the inefficiency, but have learned to deal with it the same
         | way. Sometimes you have to go slow to go fast.
        
         | tempestn wrote:
         | Great point. I often find myself frustrated when someone only
         | answers one of my two (very clearly laid out) questions. Should
         | definitely make more of a point of keeping it to one at a time.
        
         | amelius wrote:
         | Or send them a form with a submit button that works only if
         | both answers are filled in.
        
       | superdisk wrote:
       | I've found that the problem with getting questions answered
       | usually doesn't come down to poorly phrasing the question or
       | whatever, it's when I write a detailed and high quality question
       | and people just don't read it at all, instead choosing to just
       | answer with some canned response to some other question because
       | they didn't bother to read mine.
       | 
       | It's like that beavis and butthead episode.
       | 
       | Customer: I'm trying to ask a very simple question here, are your
       | shakes made from shake mix or from ice cream and milk!?
       | 
       | Butthead: We have vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry.
       | 
       | https://youtube.com/watch?v=OQUaguZawJQ
        
         | ZephyrBlu wrote:
         | What does a "detailed and high quality question" look like?
         | 
         | If it's more than a few sentences I'm not surprised people are
         | giving you canned responses, because it's too long.
        
       | bberenberg wrote:
       | This is critical reading for everyone we hire:
       | http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
        
       | Hokusai wrote:
       | > My favourite tactic is to ask a yes/no question.
       | 
       | Depending on culture and hierarchy that can be a bad idea.
       | 
       | > do you need to scale up by hand?
       | 
       | In many places that is not a question, but just a rhetoric
       | question that means 'doing it by hand is wrong'
       | 
       | Open questions also allow to find concerns that I do not know
       | about. Even asking 'how do you decide how to scale' may highlight
       | hidden reason for that manual scaling.
       | 
       | > state your current understanding
       | 
       | I use this one a lot and it's very good to find when I may have
       | misinterpret answers.
       | 
       | > be willing to interrupt
       | 
       | Quite cultural, depending who you are talking to, people will
       | avoid talking to you all together.
       | 
       | > take a minute to think
       | 
       | If you find yourself entitled to interrupt people but ask others
       | to wait for you that seems problematic.
       | 
       | I guess that is a cultural thing. But I always get the best
       | results by adapting to the other person preferred way of
       | communication instead of imposing mine. My job requires to talk
       | with people in different positions and in different countries,
       | thou. Maybe it's different if you just talk with developers and
       | with a very similar profile.
        
         | tharkun__ wrote:
         | >> be willing to interrupt > Quite cultural, depending who you
         | are talking to, people will avoid talking to you all together.
         | 
         | It can be done in various ways I guess. One thing I've been
         | doing for some time now is to not directly interrupt but just
         | start making "noise". Like for example going "Mhhh",
         | accompanied by a "thinking gesture" and maybe murmuring
         | "interesting" or some such.
         | 
         | Some people are able to pick up on those things and will give
         | you an opening to then actually ask your question or reply.
         | Thus it feels way less like interrupting, especially as it can
         | give the other person a chance to finish the immediate thought
         | but then let you "interrupt".
         | 
         | Some people don't pick up on this though and you might need to
         | interrupt but what I try first is to write down what I wanted
         | to say. Some people have a way of just talking and talking and
         | jumping from one topic or area of a topic to another without so
         | much as taking a breath. I make a point of then going through
         | my list and proclaiming that I will go back to the first point
         | they made, then the second one etc. Sometimes that helps.
         | 
         | Sometimes it doesn't and I literally have to stop them then and
         | there and actually saying it like that too "Sure that's a great
         | topic but let's stay focused, we were gonna discuss X".
        
       | tempestn wrote:
       | I think it's also important to take into account the knowledge
       | level of the person you're asking the question to. I often find,
       | for example, that by the time I need to contact some sort of
       | support person for an online or business transaction, I've
       | exhausted most things they're generally used to, and tend to have
       | a reasonably complex issue. You would think that "stating your
       | understanding" would work well there, as it would get you past
       | rehashing all the things you've already tried, but I find it
       | usually backfires. More often it just throws the person off and
       | you end up getting confusion and/or guesses presented as fact.
       | 
       | So I guess I would generalize that step, so it's more like,
       | "establish both parties' understanding," which you can do by
       | getting into your own understanding more gradually, and gauging
       | the responses.
        
         | pbhjpbhj wrote:
         | If it's phone support they might have a call-length metric.
         | Stringing you along, but maybe not too much, might be useful to
         | them!?
         | 
         | I hate this too, fwiw.
         | 
         | Though one time I was caught out on a forum: I said I'd 'turned
         | it off and on again, lol!1one' and the respondent was like 'no
         | you have to restart'. And that was the day I learnt Windows
         | restart does something different to power-cycling.
         | 
         | Issue still outstanding, but I did make the Jackie Chan 'wth'
         | meme face, and whatever SE board voted to close it without a
         | solution for whatever rubbish reason.
        
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